Drz1111 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said: Thinking about it, I agree with you. Even out here, ratios will probably be only 5-7:1. And in the city maybe 3-4:1. Especially with daylight savings. Yessss finally someone is talking about the daylight savings issue which is legit since they changed the law now in late March we have to worry about sun angle and an extra hour of sunlight every day is a huge factor in late season storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombsAway1288 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Nothing Same crap every storm. Honestly, when does he not think snow forecasts are overdone? If Mt. Holly was going conservative and warmer he would be all over here quoting about it and them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Drz1111 said: Yessss finally someone is talking about the daylight savings issue which is legit since they changed the law now in late March we have to worry about sun angle and an extra hour of sunlight every day is a huge factor in late season storms Unless it's a strong storm Sun angle don't mean anything with good rates and cold temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem81 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Drz1111 said: Yessss finally someone is talking about the daylight savings issue which is legit since they changed the law now in late March we have to worry about sun angle and an extra hour of sunlight every day is a huge factor in late season storms The sun is out for the same amount of time. The DST has nothing to die with sun angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.Pete Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, mikem81 said: The sun is out for the same amount of time. The DST has nothing to die with sun angle. I think (hope) he is being sarcastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombsAway1288 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, mikem81 said: The sun is out for the same amount of time. The DST has nothing to die with sun angle. Thank you. It's all relative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4alb Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Drz1111 said: Yessss finally someone is talking about the daylight savings issue which is legit since they changed the law now in late March we have to worry about sun angle and an extra hour of sunlight every day is a huge factor in late season storms Please tell me you aren't serious. Our laws dont effect mother nature. We haven't added any extra daylight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Drz1111 said: Yessss finally someone is talking about the daylight savings issue which is legit since they changed the law now in late March we have to worry about sun angle and an extra hour of sunlight every day is a huge factor in late season storms daylight savings has nothing to do with it-it's darker an hour later in the morning, we simply moved the hour of light to the evening. It's still 12 hrs of light with or without DST. But yes, there will be some issues b/w 10am and 2-3pm if it's not coming down heavy. Luckily the best snows are from 3-9pm or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I knew back in 01 or 02 when they advanced DST up to March they were never going back. They claimed it was temporary due to rising energy costs but I said we would never refer back to early April. Don’t forget that prior to 1987 it was late April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Drz1111 said: Yessss finally someone is talking about the daylight savings issue which is legit since they changed the law now in late March we have to worry about sun angle and an extra hour of sunlight every day is a huge factor in late season storms Bingo! I mean: I just filled out my bingo card checking off the dumbest possible posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, SnowGoose69 said: I knew back in 01 or 02 when they advanced DST up to March they were never going back. They claimed it was temporary due to rising energy costs but I said we would never refer back to early April. Don’t forget that prior to 1987 it was late April some states are trying to get rid of it altogether (MA and FL). They want to stay on DST the whole year. The move to March was in 2007. It was part of an energy bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, Brian5671 said: some states are trying to get rid of it altogether (MA and FL). They want to stay on DST the whole year. The move to March was in 2007. It was part of an energy bill. Florida is getting fights from western areas since they’d have like a 905am sunrise in parts of October and March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, Drz1111 said: Yessss finally someone is talking about the daylight savings issue which is legit since they changed the law now in late March we have to worry about sun angle and an extra hour of sunlight every day is a huge factor in late season storms Had me going for a minute there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalland Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: some states are trying to get rid of it altogether (MA and FL). They want to stay on DST the whole year. The move to March was in 2007. It was part of an energy bill. Personally I would gladly stay on DST the whole year. The only problem for me would be that model runs would be later all year. (I wouldn't need the morning light). I can see why other people disagree though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Someone will be screwed tomorrow though, no storm ever delivers uniform amounts, I don't care whether it's January or April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, ThatHurricane said: Personally I would gladly stay on DST the whole year. The only problem for me would be that model runs would be later all year. (I wouldn't need the morning light). I can see why other people disagree though. hard to change it around here-too many people cross state lines for work-unless it's a block of states, forget it, not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveWinter Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, ThatHurricane said: Personally I would gladly stay on DST the whole year. The only problem for me would be that model runs would be later all year. (I wouldn't need the morning light). I can see why other people disagree though. Those 2AM Euro runs are a killer during these storms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drz1111 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Joe4alb said: Please tell me you aren't serious. Our laws dont effect mother nature. We haven't added any extra daylight. No you see because the sunlight is in the evening not the morning it happens when the temps are warmer so it effects accumulations more it’s science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalland Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Drz1111 said: No you see because the sunlight is in the evening not the morning it happens when the temps are warmer so it effects accumulations more it’s science That shouldn't be affected. Everything just shifts forward one hour, including temperatures. What time we say it is doesn't have an influence on the weather/temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 SREF Plumes came in higher, the mean is two inches more for KNYC now vs 15z (from 8.55" to 10.72") Per usual the ARW are way amped but the trend is good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdt Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just track in Zulu time. Problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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uncle W Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 43 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said: How much of NYC was farmland 150 years ago? most of the Boroughs were farms back then...If the city gets a foot it would be more remarkable...I liked 8 all along for my back yard on S.I....I hope I bust low... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, uncle W said: most of the Boroughs were farms back then...If the city gets a foot it would be more remarkable...I liked 8 all along for my back yard on S.I....I hope I bust low... No heat island effect back then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbear5 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I knew I hated daylight savings... first it steals an hour of sleep and now it's stealing my snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, uncle W said: most of the Boroughs were farms back then...If the city gets a foot it would be more remarkable...I liked 8 all along for my back yard on S.I....I hope I bust low... 8 seems quite reasonable. I think you should be good for around that, could certainly bust low as I'm hoping as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, sferic said: No heat island effect back then too. That was my point. Records of that era are useless for application today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Almost 00z NAM time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 0Z NAM is gonna be north of 18Z! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Ace said: 0Z NAM is gonna be north of 18Z! Colder so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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