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March 20th-22nd Suppressed, Fish, Not Coming Threat


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37 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

I posted this yesterday. Of course there are many March snowstorms greater than the ones I listed below and you listed them above. This was just the 8 biggest after the spring equinox. I think that's why some were confused.

There are only eight snowfalls of 6 inches or greater after the spring equinox in New York City. Also interesting to note here there have been 30 snowfalls 6 inches or greater in the month of March in New York City but only one between March 22 and March 31 but seven from April 1 through April 13. Just a curious weird anomaly. If it does happen on Wednesday it is more or less a one in twenty-year occurrence to happen in spring in New York City.

6 inch Spring Snowfalls in NYC

1.....10.2.....April 3-4, 1915
2.....10.0.....April 13, 1875
3.......9.6.....April 6, 1982
4.......9.0.....March 22, 1967
5.......8.5.....April 1, 1924
6.......6.5.....April 5, 1944
7.......6.5.....April 8-9, 1917
8.......6.4.....April 6-7, 1938

It’s always odd how there is clearly a minimum between about 3/20-3/31 for whatever reason

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1 hour ago, Rjay said:

Calling @donsutherland1.  This isn't accurate but I'm way too tired to dig up your stats. 

10 Largest NYC Snowstorms in March:

21.0", March 12-14, 1888 
18.1", March 7-8, 1941 
14.5", March 1-2, 1914 and March 3-4, 1960 
12.0", March 15-16, 1896 
11.8", March 20-21, 1958 (Biggest March 20 or later)
11.6", March 18-19, 1956 
10.6", March 13-14, 1993 
10.0", March 2, 1896 
9.0" March 22, 1967 
 

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Seems to me like the 06z NAM had a brain fart due to the fact that the RGEM and GFS were 6-10/8-12. In regards to the EURO it has a SE bias so .7-1.1 across the area is pretty damn good. Also those EPS members were heavily West leaned I really don’t care what the QPF showed because there were some crazy east members (VERY few btw) that probably skewed the mean.

Some on here just live and die by each model run way to much. 

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2 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said:

But it's not drunk when it prints out 2" LE all frozen? And the point needs to be drilled. No guidance shows those amounts and you have climo to fight.

2” LE might not be that far off with a moisture laden system like this... but the vomit that it just showed is in the waste bin right now. I’m sorry you don’t go from 2 feet in some locales to like a couple inches at best. Enough said doesn’t make sense and is tossed. Models have blips all the time and the NAM usually throws one out there close to an event.

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46 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

It’s always odd how there is clearly a minimum between about 3/20-3/31 for whatever reason

I like early April far more.  Something special about early April snowfalls.  Late March doesn't cut it for me.

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2 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

I posted this yesterday. Of course there are many March snowstorms greater than the ones I listed below and you listed them above. This was just the 8 biggest after the spring equinox. I think that's why some were confused.

There are only eight snowfalls of 6 inches or greater after the spring equinox in New York City. Also interesting to note here there have been 30 snowfalls 6 inches or greater in the month of March in New York City but only one between March 22 and March 31 but seven from April 1 through April 13. Just a curious weird anomaly. If it does happen on Wednesday it is more or less a one in twenty-year occurrence to happen in spring in New York City.

6 inch Spring Snowfalls in NYC

1.....10.2.....April 3-4, 1915
2.....10.0.....April 13, 1875
3.......9.6.....April 6, 1982
4.......9.0.....March 22, 1967
5.......8.5.....April 1, 1924
6.......6.5.....April 5, 1944
7.......6.5.....April 8-9, 1917
8.......6.4.....April 6-7, 1938

April 1982 was also a lot more in other places- I believe Newark got 13"

 

April 1915- I dont know how NYC only had 10" Philly had close to 20"

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3 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

That Euro was not a good sign, I don't care about the Nam since it has been erratic but you don't want the Euro to start suppressing this. 

I hope it corrects by 12z or at the very least doesn't get worse. 

Gefs was a big hit for the coast

Euro was fine for the coast

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7 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

That Euro was not a good sign, I don't care about the Nam since it has been erratic but you don't want the Euro to start suppressing this. 

I hope it corrects by 12z or at the very least doesn't get worse. 

The Euro has had SE tendencies this year with coastal lows and to be honest since the upgrade 2 winters ago inside 24-36.  Its also generally been dry.  I think both Upton and Taunton are weighing that idea.

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