WestminsterSnowCapitalMA Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WesternFringe said: Stormy, you suck a lot. Please stop posting. You make this thread worse, and by a lot. Like a nice release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ers-wxman1 said: 4-8 in mid March in the MA is a significant storm. i like that it's enough to entertain but not enough to muck things up for too long (bball/tennis courts/fields/gardens/trails/etc). it's a nice middle ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Ji said: 3 minutes ago, ers-wxman1 said: Glad I wasted my time posting then. Not a waste. Just dosent excite me in mid march too see 4-8 The thing is, a HECS is very much on table. Maybe not a true hecs because I don't see this one running a benchmark track. That's actually getting close to being off the table. But our area is probably in or close enough to the best spot for something significant. Even if the gfs showed a plastering I would feel about as good about it as I do with what it just showed. March is bowling season. My gut says h5 closes off and slows down somewhere before exiting the coast. Typical late March climo kind of thing. This event should be a good precip producer but if it's staggered and drawn out even 1.5" of qpf all snow wont be off the chain because it is the 3rd week of March. If it's more cohesive then the impactometer goes up. Time to just chew a few fingernails or practice our guitars. It will probably be 48 hours before we know whether it's staggered or cohesive. No model will give me confidence one way or the other until we shave some lead time. You know this already anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I'm rooting for wave 1 and anything with wave 2 is icing on top. Wave 1 is basically 3 days away and trending better. Wave 2 is so strung out with multiple pieces of energy. Who knows what in the world happens with that but I know we definitely don't do complicated well and wave 2 seems complicated. Wave 1 seems fairly straight forward. We just need to be on the winning side. Getting hit with a HECS that the Euro was showing would be great but ill take whatever I can get. 4 inches would seem like a HECS after the last 2 years..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Even though we're all having fun and not worrying about moderation, show some restraint during prime time. I was out and figured I'd scan this thread for all the good details but the few good posts were buried inside a steaming pile above and below. That's pretty lame when 3 globals just gave us legit stuff to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestminsterSnowCapitalMA Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Bob Chill said: Even though we're all having fun and not worrying about moderation, show some restraint during prime time. I was out and figured I'd scan this thread for all the good details but the few good posts were buried inside a steaming pile above and below. That's pretty lame when 3 globals just gave us legit stuff to discuss. I wish i knew enough to provide useful discussion, instead of trying the comedic relief angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Analizing the GFS 250mb clearly looks better than 18z at hour 108hrs. Strong -tilt. The second piece of vorticity catches the +10c line on the coast at 96hrs over Georgia. The low deepens for a few hours before everything dampens out. Not sure what happened but that was close to a 1/25/00 bomb. Front even lights up in the exact same spot, then pushes OTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 you can see the various vorts around that low coming into the west now... http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?type=usa-wv-1-48&checked=&prodDim=100&overDim=100 southern stream looks busy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 You better hope this trends north otherwise you'l get a few snow showers and goes out to sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The NAM at 84 hours looks pretty incredible. That classic 970s low off the NJ coast hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 GEFS trended south, but has a cluster of 5 lows near OCMD at 102. 18z hardly had any in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Amped said: GEFS trended south, but has a cluster of 5 lows near OCMD at 102. You didn't like 108 or 114? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, yoda said: You didn't like 108 or 114? I assume the snow mean took a step back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Chris78 said: I assume the snow mean took a step back? 4 to 5 inches for DCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, yoda said: 4 to 5 inches for DCA That's pretty good. What was it on the 18z? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Chris78 said: That's pretty good. What was it on the 18z? 5 to 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris78 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, yoda said: Oh man. That's sweet. Does it have both waves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, yoda said: That about where it was last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestminsterSnowCapitalMA Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Burning the midnight oil here on friday, bring me something good ole euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestminsterSnowCapitalMA Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Euro wide right with the secondary, front end thump looks good though SNOW MAPS PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Snow Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Both the GEFS and GEPS cut back on total precip. Both now show the 1” line making it up to the pa/md line. Was well into pa at 12z. Gotta get the southern shift to stop soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Euro might be a little better with that first wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Snow Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Euro is pretty much a swing and a miss from Baltimore north for the first and then the second wave isn’t a hit for anyone. First wave is slightly more north though. Does get some light precip north of b-more. Basically 1-3 dc/Balt with a stripe of 4-8 south of dc. Second wave is basically a non snow producer. I’d say we still have time for the second wave to get better but it’s quickly headed in the wrong direction on all guidance. Right now it appears to be first wave or bust. Could change but seems to be a decent consensus on the first wave. Gfs north, cmc in the middle and euro south but all show the same idea of a general 4-8 max snowfall with the first wave. https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/2018031700/maryland/snow-depth-in/20180322-0000z.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordecai Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Euro is pretty similar to the 12z run. South again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, TSSN+ said: Let’s be honest, these models won’t have a clue till Sunday, maybe even Monday. Been this way all season...Terrible. Even though this can be rather par for the course (especially for this kind of setup, I'm told...), the gut punch of so many of our misses this year is that once the models do get their act together, THEN the solution has screwed us. I can't remember the last time we had a positive trend within 96 hours...hopefully with the different setup than the previous three.. this one will be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Ukmet and navgem are the only model at 0z that showed what I want. Everything is trending more strung out less consolidated system. I'm with JI I was hunting the euro solution it popped out 4/6 runs but the HECS option is slipping away we still have wave 1 but I'm not ready to let go of the cut off low 48 hour snowbomb idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I feel so sorry for Ji he works so hard for the big snowstorm he deserves and is entitled to get. It's simply not fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Even with wave 1 I think suppression is possible up here. I would be happy with where it is if I was around DC or VA. Nam aside it's still out of range the globals are trending south with everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Euro/EPS pretty is much identical for the region with wave one. Mean precip looks almost exactly the same. So if you liked 12z, You should like 0z, and visa versa. Overall it appears emphasis is now on the lead wave across all guidance, which is unfortunate because it has limited potential, and will probably screw half the subforum one way or another. IMO it can only hold or trend weaker. Maybe the big bomb idea comes back for the trailer, but it seems unlikely at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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