BristowWx Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Scraff said: Why does the low go out and not up!? We waiting for a full capture (of the weenie hearts) on the happy hour GFS I guess? low east of Maine and HP 1031 in GL..I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 If I am reading correctly, decent sounding at DCA with decent DGZ at 168... plus its 29/30 degrees lol (yes, I am bored and I checked it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scraff said: Why does the low go out and not up!? We waiting for a full capture (of the weenie hearts) on the happy hour GFS I guess? Trough is still positive when it catches up to the low. So it pushes it straight ahead. Need a negative tilt to bring it north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, showmethesnow said: Trough is still positive when it catches up to the low. So it pushes it straight ahead. Need a negative tilt to bring it north. CMC takes care of that...too much...I just put away the shovel and grabbed by umbrella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, showmethesnow said: Trough is still positive when it catches up to the low. So it pushes it straight ahead. Need a negative tilt to bring it north. would it head north, maybe earlier, regardless of the trough tilt if that HP in GL and low east of Maine wasn't there? I mean is this more like a west to east overrun situation as depicted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, yoda said: If I am reading correctly, decent sounding at DCA with decent DGZ at 168... plus its 29/30 degrees lol Kuchera actually treats us kindly. 2-5 inches region wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraff Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 We all know full well that it’s eventually going to evolve into an up the coast solution....for 2 feet in Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Bob Chill said: CMC takes care of that...too much...I just put away the shovel and grabbed by umbrella Yeah, N MD and north cash in on the CMC run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGolfBro Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Bob Chill said: CMC takes care of that...too much...I just put away the shovel and grabbed by umbrella At this point i will take a blend of the GFS and CMC. Should be a solid forecast 7 days out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The gfs is suppressed because it's further east with the northern stream trough diving in so instead of coming in behind and phasing into the 10-18" storm the euro had it drops on top and squashes it. Lol. That never happens does it Both have that feature so unfortunately it's probably real and we need to get it to play nice. Two ways to win...get that feature west like the euro which dives it into the Ohio valley and phases. Or get that feature to back off north just a bit from the gfs location so the low ends up near Norfolk instead of the outer banks. Either works. But all year those NS features have been diving down on top of us wrecking every setup. So I'm not holding my breath that it decides to cooperate all of a sudden. I would rather it simply not be there at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, showmethesnow said: Kuchera actually treats us kindly. 2-5 inches region wide. It looks ok but I'm not tracking .25 qpf in late march. I doubt those rates work. Maybe but I'm disinterested in another 2-3" event. So my analysts is what we need for a euro solution. We need a 1"+ qpf bomb here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinInTheSky Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, psuhoffman said: It looks ok but I'm not tracking .25 qpf in late march. I doubt those rates work. Maybe but I'm disinterested in another 2-3" event. So my analysts is what we need for a euro solution. We need a 1"+ qpf bomb here. 2-3" would be 25%-50% of the total season snowfall for lots of people, lol. I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, supernovasky said: 2-3" would be 25%-50% of the total season snowfall for lots of people, lol. I want it. agree. there is no another 2-3 inch event for me since I haven't had one. I think Dec 8 came close. maybe 2 not 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, BristowWx said: would it head north, maybe earlier, regardless of the trough tilt if that HP in GL and low east of Maine wasn't there? I mean is this more like a west to east overrun situation as depicted? Actually we probably want that high there if not just a little more southwesterly. Problem I see is that the shortwave moves to far east before it takes the drop southward, PSU alluded to this. I still think that it was workable if the better ridging in front of it continued to build. Unfortunately the flow around the 50/50 dampened/suppressed that down and we had a flat flow for the shortwave/surface low to track on. As is, we are probably at the mercy of the 50/50 once again. See that positioned more like the EPS and we are probably good, even better if we see the blocking break down allowing the 50/50 to escape in conjunction with the short wave moving in. Allows for some major amplification on the coast where the low will ride up the coast. eta: Realized I really never answered your question. Not having a high or a weaker high there might allow for some movement northward but not much. 500's are what basically are steering this storm at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, SnowGolfBro said: At this point i will take a blend of the GFS and CMC. Should be a solid forecast 7 days out lol At this point I wouldn't even look at the cmc because it sucks. Yes it did good last storm but it's been so all over other times...At some point more guidance just adds noise. A blend of the gfs and euro with help from the ensembles and a little common sense analog based interpretation works pretty good. The b team is entertainment but nothing else. I suppose if things are tied in your mind and stuck without a good meteorological reason to lean one way of the other then lookIng to the other guidance to tip the scales isn't so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, H2O said: Is someone a little jaded? Good movie if I remember correctly. Been years since I have seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, WVclimo said: So far through 12 days, the mean temperature for March at DCA is 42.7. February finished at 45.3. Last year was only the 7th time ever that March finished colder than February in DC. If it happens again this year, it would be the first time back-to-back years had that happen since 1890-91. Other years were 1887, 1909, 1960, 1984 and 1932 which has been an analog that has popped up often since last year's hurricane season. Would appear with renewed blocking a continued negative AO and a negative NAO maybe the month does make it slightly below normal . If i were in the landscape business I keep plows handy and hold off on the mowers. Although my grass is greening up, it is a far cry from some March months, when it can go to 80 and everything was green and growing fast. Keep those bugs at bay for a couple more weeks please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, yoda said: I do like the 2mT map at 174... its like we get our own CAD due to the snowfall rates I assume since most of LWX CWA is 30-32 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 We can't even get a storm under 96 hour and Yoda is doing play by play. **** me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, stormtracker said: We can't even get a storm under 96 hour and Yoda is doing play by play. **** me. NAM says we take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Is that phasing i see on the 108 hr NAM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, stormtracker said: We can't even get a storm under 96 hour and Yoda is doing play by play. **** me. You created the last storm thread and it failed... I at least have the Force with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordecai Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I mean we have nothing to lose at this point. We won’t be tracking wintry threats for another 8 months so might as well track this one last possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, H2O said: NAM says we take That's not the correct way to say it. We take the NAM and run with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, stormtracker said: We can't even get a storm under 96 hour and Yoda is doing play by play. **** me. But he does it so well. He is like the Chuck Thompson of weather boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, yoda said: That's not the correct way to say it. We take the NAM and run with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, yoda said: You created the last storm thread and it failed... I at least have the Force with me I created threads for Jan 2016 too, so now what? I have the Force too. All I need now is to have a conference video call with you on the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, stormtracker said: I created threads for Jan 2016 too, so now what? I have the Force too. All I need now is to have a conference video call with you on the screen. you have the force to end this misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Lol we're still doing play by play on a day 7 storm in mid march. We are either that devoted or that crazy. But this morning everyone like nappy said it was 10 days out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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