Sparky Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Cobalt said: Yeah, a cool Summer is fine by me. I'd prefer Spring to feel like spring though. Guess we're paying for our warm Fall we had. I don't mind a cool summer as long as it comes with wetness/thunderstorms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, Sparky said: I don't mind a cool summer as long as it comes with wetness/thunderstorms. Is there some evidence of a cool summer? It would be great but they seem rare around here. Maybe my idea of cool is 70s. Probably not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, BristowWx said: Is there some evidence of a cool summer? It would be great but they seem rare around here. Maybe my idea of cool is 70s. Probably not happening. Aren't Ninas strengthening to Ninos indicative of cool summers? At least that's what I've heard. After all Summer of 2009 was a Nina to Nino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I’d love a cool summer but I also want some form of spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 41 minutes ago, BristowWx said: Is there some evidence of a cool summer? It would be great but they seem rare around here. Maybe my idea of cool is 70s. Probably not happening. 70s in mid-summer is 10+ degrees below normal highs in DC. It’s not cool relative to other seasons, but it sure is cool relative to normal. You’re simply not going to see that more than 10 or so times from June-August (and most of those would be rainy days with fairly high minimums) unless Pinatubo were to erupt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 +NAO is showing up on medium and long term models. This, I think, would signal that we have not left the 5-year +NAO regime o and lower chances for a cold Winter 18-19. (Maybe like 60% chance next Winter is +NAO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Kmlwx said: I'm fine with getting warm enough for early season severe. But yeah..90s in April...DO NOT WANT. I don't have any desire to go bigly on heat early. Unfortunately DC is a Boss with regard to early heat waves, we set the Bar for places like Austin, Texas, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motsco Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 why are you al talking 90S in april? i would love it to happen- but trend has us going slowly up with temps and very wet in may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 70s in April and May would be awesome and seasonal. Can we just simply chase that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 So i'm the odd one out wanting a hurricane in May? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, North Balti Zen said: 70s in April and May would be awesome and seasonal. Can we just simply chase that? Looks more like 50s-60ish for a while. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderdog Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I'm ready for some heat. I want to wake up tomorrow morning then go outside and run into a wall of humidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 For the record, there IS an option between crushing cold and oppressive heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 +NAO is showing up on medium and long term models. This, I think, would signal that we have not left the 5-year +NAO regime o and lower chances for a cold Winter 18-19. (Maybe like 60% chance next Winter is +NAO)Where r u seeing this? Ens have been generally locked in or trending towards sustaining the neg NAO ridge even if weakish. I did see the GEFS goes neg to pos for a brief period end of week 1 of April before trying to re-establish neg departures toward the end of the run. Also, temps are overall well BN aside from a transient few AN days at the tail end of March. Pattern stinks if you are looking for sustained spring weather. GEFS even signal a gradient pattern with waves undercutting the region. Elevation and NW areas at the very least are likely not done just yet irt frozen threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCT_ATC Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 13 hours ago, Sparky said: I don't mind a cool summer as long as it comes with wetness/thunderstorms. may you rot on board your hot, stifling airplane as all the thunderstorms you are wishing for this summer keep you grounded on the tarmac instead of heading to some exotic location for your vacation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jandurin Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just don't schedule your airplanes for the afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Early April Chill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtropics Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 6:44 PM, BristowWx said: I get depressed about it. Plus we didn’t get shellacked really. But I must forge on until November. We wait so long for winter and it’s so short. Winter was long as heck this year. It usually is around these parts. What are you talking about? Literally it has been cold from early November until now and it looks cold for at least another few weeks... It's Freaking almost april and it's 45 degrees at noon... Is it too much to ask to have the average high be 60 March 1st and and 70 by April 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Subtropics said: Winter was long as heck this year. It usually is around these parts. What are you talking about? Literally it has been cold from early November until now and it looks cold for at least another few weeks... It's Freaking almost april and it's 45 degrees at noon... Is it too much to ask to have the average high be 60 March 1st and and 70 by April 1st? In the DC area and the mid-Atlantic, yes. We don't live in Raleigh or Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Where r u seeing this? Ens have been generally locked in or trending towards sustaining the neg NAO ridge even if weakish. I did see the GEFS goes neg to pos for a brief period end of week 1 of April before trying to re-establish neg departures toward the end of the run. Also, temps are overall well BN aside from a transient few AN days at the tail end of March. Pattern stinks if you are looking for sustained spring weather. GEFS even signal a gradient pattern with waves undercutting the region. Elevation and NW areas at the very least are likely not done just yet irt frozen threats. Looks chilly for the next few weeks. I wouldn't be shocked if the northern tier has accumulating snow sometime in the next 15 days. Probably nothing major but very below normal for April. You can the confluence set up to our Northeast with energy rolling out of the rockies. It's a Darn shame this pattern didn't set up in late January instead of late February/ Early March...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Yeah pretty nice looking h5 pattern- if only it were a month or 2 ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 51 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: Yeah pretty nice looking h5 pattern- if only it were a month or 2 ago. Well, we certainly are not going to roll right from Winter to summer this year it seems. I have been wonder a lot about the summer and the Pacific and what is in store. Meanwhile, the decline of the solar cycle continues. So, you have to think as well to any significant base changes in the years ahead with the NAO, and how melting sea ice, the AMO, Northern Atlantic SST profiles, QBO and other factors will play in. Not to mention we are due statiistically for a blockbuster winter in our parts soon. :-) To me at least it seems the winters here have been Pac driven lately, but there is no denying the NAO domain effected us in March, maybe it was a warning shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Don't look at the Euro control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtropics Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Fozz said: In the DC area and the mid-Atlantic, yes. We don't live in Raleigh or Atlanta. So unfortunate. I checked and you were spot on. I really do think Central North Carolina to the coast is my ideal climate and only 5 hours from DC but a legit month ahead climotologically. I may have to move which would mean I switch to the southern subforum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 59 minutes ago, frd said: Well, we certainly are not going to roll right from Winter to summer this year it seems. I have been wonder a lot about the summer and the Pacific and what is in store. Meanwhile, the decline of the solar cycle continues. So, you have to think as well to any significant base changes in the years ahead with the NAO, and how melting sea ice, the AMO, Northern Atlantic SST profiles, QBO and other factors will play in. Not to mention we are due statiistically for a blockbuster winter in our parts soon. :-) To me at least it seems the winters here have been Pac driven lately, but there is no denying the NAO domain effected us in March, maybe it was a warning shot. I would love an anomalous Maine-like summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: I would love an anomalous Maine-like summer. Yes, along with some chilled buttered Lobster and battered Calamari , yum ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: I would love an anomalous Maine-like summer. A Maine-like Winter as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceFrederickWx Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Cobalt said: Don't look at the Euro control What does it show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Chris78 said: Looks chilly for the next few weeks. I wouldn't be shocked if the northern tier has accumulating snow sometime in the next 15 days. Probably nothing major but very below normal for April. You can the confluence set up to our Northeast with energy rolling out of the rockies. It's a Darn shame this pattern didn't set up in late January instead of late February/ Early March...lol With the way this winter has gone, even if it had, we still woulda found a way to miss 4 Nor'easters, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, PrinceFrederickWx said: What does it show? Feast your face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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