rnl13 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Can any of the more experienced guys, give me an unbiased opinion of whether you think this snow will accumulate on concrete? I know most March snows can have 8 inches on grass, and only 2 inches on concrete. I need to know whether I should schedule a plow to take care of all of my properties. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, rnl13 said: Can any of the more experienced guys, give me an unbiased opinion of whether you think this snow will accumulate on concrete? I know most March snows can have 8 inches on grass, and only 2 inches on concrete. I need to know whether I should schedule a plow to take care of all of my properties. Thanks in advance Given the potential for heavy snow in this, it won't have any problem accumulating on concrete where it's coming down. Where are you located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnl13 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, jm1220 said: Given the potential for heavy snow in this, it won't have any problem accumulating on concrete where it's coming down. Where are you located? All over Queens. Thanks man I really appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Newest 6z HRRR has widespread 9-12" amounts from the city east through central Suffolk (6" at Riverhead) through 7pm with decent snow still coming down. Looks to be getting colder each run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, jm1220 said: Newest 6z HRRR has widespread 9-12" amounts from the city east through central Suffolk (6" at Riverhead) through 7pm with decent snow still coming down. Looks to be getting colder each run. Some of our locals are now saying there's a chance it never changes to rain except for the east end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Paragon said: Some of our locals are now saying there's a chance it never changes to rain except for the east end. In the last HRRR run I can't see anything besides the surface for Nassau/western Suffolk which could cause rain/sleet, very bottom of the column is 33-34F. 850-925 layer has been cooling off the last few runs. Eastern Suffolk has warmer surface temps which could mess things up. What a change from this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, jm1220 said: In the last HRRR run I can't see anything besides the surface for Nassau/western Suffolk which could cause rain/sleet, very bottom of the column is 33-34F. 850-925 layer has been cooling off the last few runs. Eastern Suffolk has warmer surface temps which could mess things up. What a change from this morning. Any change in the track of the storm? Late news mets were talking about a further east track to near the benchmark on PIX 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, jm1220 said: In the last HRRR run I can't see anything besides the surface for Nassau/western Suffolk which could cause rain/sleet, very bottom of the column is 33-34F. Eastern Suffolk has warmer surface temps which could mess things up. What a change from this morning. Well it still hasn’t happened yet. But it’s pretty much the opposite of what happened last year. As the event got closer it kept getting worse. I’m still worried about you and I being so close to the water. The last thing we want is for garden city to get 12” and we get 3”. Still a distinct possibility. Once we get into the ccb it’s should rip everywhere and that’s when we safely accumulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Well it still hasn’t happened yet. But it’s pretty much the opposite of what happened last year. As the event got closer it kept getting worse. I’m still worried about you and being so close to the water. The last thing we want is for garden city to get 12” and we get 3”. Still a distinct possibility. Once we get into the ccb it’s should rip everywhere and that’s when we safely accumulate. Never can shake that risk here for sure, but I'm thinking we might be OK even down here. The HRRR trend toward a further south 850/700 low has been pretty steady the last few runs along with better soundings, and the Euro run backs it up. It's snowing to beat the band outside now and sticking on cars/grass. The trend toward a nice CCB is also a great sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 6z nam destroys NJ, NYC and much of LI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 6z NAM is even colder than 0z, heavy snow pretty much everywhere at some point and WOW at what it shows for the NYC area mid afternoon with crazy VVs at 700. CCB rakeage for sure, which pushes east later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbear5 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said: 6z nam destroys NJ, NYC An pretty much all of LI, maybe outside of the far East End Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.wx Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 anyone got the website or pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said: 6z nam destroys NJ, NYC Any sort of worry of mixing in NYC is pretty much gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, jm1220 said: 6z NAM is even colder than 0z, heavy snow pretty much everywhere at some point and WOW at what it shows for the NYC area mid afternoon with crazy VVs at 700. CCB rakeage for sure, which pushes east later. Looks even more like the Millenium storm now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Paragon said: Looks even more like the Millenium storm now. No, because that storm pushed north, this one looks to hit near ACY and pivot east. That also rakes east on the Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbear5 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Good Lord... look at that convection heading toward Nassau/western Suffolk at 20z on the 3K nam. Where it's already moved over its super intense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, jm1220 said: No, because that storm pushed north, this one looks to hit near ACY and pivot east. That also rakes east on the Island So wait, if that happens, it would never mix or change anywhere on the island? I think that's the classic track where the storm bends east around the latitude of ACY and heads for the benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteoropoulos Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 WOW!!! NYC, NNJ, LI get absolutely CRUSHED! CCB's are destroying NYC mid-day! Any chance of rain in NYC looks to be gone as well. My oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbear5 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paragon said: So wait, if that happens, it would never mix or change anywhere on the island? I think that's the classic track where the storm bends east around the latitude of ACY and heads for the benchmark. The classic track is more of a hook from the outer banks to the BM. This is going to be a classic track after this storm, however The difference between these colder solutions and the warmer ones is that the lows are running into a brick wall and being forced eastward earlier. The earlier it goes east, the less warm air it can transfer northward and the less likely the dry slot comes into play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Let's get a new forecast package out. A certain mayor needs to make a certain decision about a certain public system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombsAway1288 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Does anybody have a snow map or precip map for the 6z NAM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteoropoulos Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, BombsAway1288 said: Does anybody have a snow map or precip map for the 6z NAM? Here you go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard-on-GFS Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Huge shifts east. This storm will be a HECS for philly kn northeastward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteoropoulos Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 And the 3K... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Can this make up for last March and the disappointment on Long Island ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombsAway1288 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Meteoropoulos said: Here you go... Beautiful. A lot of guidance is showing at least a foot for the area from central NJ up through the HV and then east to NYC and western LI. This one is looking like one for the ages for March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Winter Storm Warning back up for Southern half of Nassau County and Southern Queens too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Upton mentioned thundersnow later and now upped NYC to 7-11 inches in their latest discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Snow88 said: Worst mayor ever I'm going to take the bus to work soon. I just hope they don't suspend buses and trains. My car sucks in the snow so I parked it on the left side of the street last night. Even worse, some news outlets are still only predicting 4-7 inches for NYC at this hour. IMO, Upton should have went with 10 to 15". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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