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March 7th 2018 Coastal Storm thread (not obs)


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1 minute ago, sferic said:

Can't believe de blasio didn't make an announcement at 11:00PM

5:00 am LAST HOPE BUT BY THEN MANY ARE UP AND READY TO LEAVE..

I hate it when they do this. I work in a private school that follows the public schools for snow closings. On a good day my commute is between 1.25 and 1.45 hours. I love snow; I just hate driving in it. Plus, if my kids' school cancels but my school doesn't -- I'll need to take the day off.

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2 minutes ago, sferic said:

Can't believe de blasio didn't make an announcement at 11:00PM

5:00 am LAST HOPE BUT BY THEN MANY ARE UP AND READY TO LEAVE..

Yea I couldn’t agree with you more... my wife is public school teacher and I definitely not letting her leave the house regardless of the call.... this could be a major disaster if he chooses not to closebclosed

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If these colder solutions end up verifying, a lot of people are going to be caught off guard, potential exists for a disastrous evening commute on LI.
It will be bad elsewhere, of course, but I think at this point most people, if not everyone, expects that in the LHV, eastern PA, northern NJ etc
With the dynamics of this storm we could be talking nearly whiteout conditions at times in some areas during the evening commute...
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2 minutes ago, sferic said:

Can't believe de blasio didn't make an announcement at 11:00PM

5:00 am LAST HOPE BUT BY THEN MANY ARE UP AND READY TO LEAVE..

Before de Blasio, any school closing- as rare as they were- were always announced at 5:00 am.   For all the bashing the man takes, he was the one who not only has given people more time to plan; he's actually closed the schools several times. 

I was a teacher for 32 years until last June- from the monster storm in January 1993 until I think 2010 or 2012 (can't remember- but it was either 17 or 19 years) we didn't have a single snow day.

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1 minute ago, Chet-NYC said:

Before de Blasio, any school closing- as rare as they were- were always announced at 5:00 am.   For all the bashing the man takes, he was the one who not only has given people more time to plan; he's actually closed the schools several times. 

I was a teacher for 32 years until last June- from the monster storm in January 1993 until I think 2010 or 2012 (can't remember- but it was either 17 or 19 years) we didn't have a single snow day.

January 1996 blizzard Monday and Tuesday were closed and delayed opening Wednesday following weekend blizzard

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Just now, NJwx85 said:

NYC public schools never used to close, and the world didn’t end. This idea of closing is a new concept and pretty pointless in Manhattan. Outer boroughs are somewhat of a different story.

In Queens, roads are a disaster with just moderate snow falling and an inch or two total. I was stuck a couple of times in December with the small rush-hour clippers that snowed just before and during. 

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Just now, jm1220 said:

In Queens, roads are a disaster with just moderate snow falling and an inch or two total. I was stuck a couple of times in December with the small rush-hour clippers that snowed just before and during. 

And in Brooklyn, too. So many of the streets are too narrow to handle the traffic that traverses them.

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Pretty safe to say totals will be taken up across the board. Given the trends tonight, Central Park has a decent shot to make it to 12". Immediate shore areas especially western Suffolk/Nassau/Rockaways, jury still out. Hopefully heavier rates can keep the mixing out. Eastern Suffolk now has a shot at the CCB given the 700 low track. Could be a nice finish despite rain for much of the meat of it. 

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3 minutes ago, Chet-NYC said:

Before de Blasio, any school closing- as rare as they were- were always announced at 5:00 am.   For all the bashing the man takes, he was the one who not only has given people more time to plan; he's actually closed the schools several times. 

I was a teacher for 32 years until last June- from the monster storm in January 1993 until I think 2010 or 2012 (can't remember- but it was either 17 or 19 years) we didn't have a single snow day.

Bloomberg called one in 2004 in March on a storm that busted. A number of the other storms were on weekends.

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1 minute ago, jm1220 said:

Pretty safe to say totals will be taken up across the board. Given the trends tonight, Central Park has a decent shot to make it to 12". Immediate shore areas especially western Suffolk/Nassau/Rockaways, jury still out. Hopefully heavier rates can keep the mixing out. Eastern Suffolk now has a shot at the CCB given the 700 low track. Could be a nice finish despite rain for much of the meat of it. 

Rain for the meat of it where ? Suffolk or most of LI?

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2 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

In Queens, roads are a disaster with just moderate snow falling and an inch or two total. I was stuck a couple of times in December with the small rush-hour clippers that snowed just before and during. 

Staten Island is the same story. Secondary and tertiary streets are neglected for days, even weeks. The Boxing Day Blizzard was the absolute worst instance of this.

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5 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

NYC public schools never used to close, and the world didn’t end. This idea of closing is a new concept and pretty pointless in Manhattan. Outer boroughs are somewhat of a different story.

The staff can't get in, or can't get home. I remember sitting in a power outage in Elizabeth in the Dec 92 storm all day with a 7th grade class when all the surrounding suburban districts closed early. That was pointless.

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1 minute ago, Juliancolton said:

The hand-wringing by public officials over whether to close school in NYC was always so alien to me. Snow days throughout the winter are just part of life, and have been for generations, in most places. 

They have to add it to the end of the school year I think....not exactly sure. But I agreed that it's just part of winter....in NYC...

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1 minute ago, Juliancolton said:

The hand-wringing by public officials over whether to close school in NYC was always so alien to me. Snow days throughout the winter are just part of life, and have been for generations, in most cold climates. 

Not in New England, according to my sources. They laugh at the snow days here; my fellow social worker is from NH. That said, even they wouldn't open in this kinda storm. My BIL in ME said when he was a kid they only closed for ice, not snow.

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They have to add it to the end of the school year I think....not exactly sure. But I agreed that it's just part of winter....in NYC...
Federal funding. It all comes down to federal funding. As long as school is in session that day they receive it. If they close, they lose money. Someone explained why it is not made up for a snow day, but, being honest, I forgot.
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1 minute ago, sferic said:

Rain for the meat of it where ? Suffolk or most of LI?

Eastern Suffolk still looks like much of the front part could be rain or mix. Surface temps look a little higher there and it gets really close/over freezing at 850 for a time. Further west, the wind comes off more land so temps should be colder. I'm not so concerned here about surface temps, I'm more concerned about how close the mid level warmth makes it. 

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2 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

The hand-wringing by public officials over whether to close school in NYC was always so alien to me. Snow days throughout the winter are just part of life, and have been for generations, in most cold climates. 

There are a million kids in the NYC public schools. For hundreds of thousands, the schools provide a safer, stabler environment during the day. When school is canceled it's a big deal for lots of families.

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1 minute ago, Mark McIntyre said:

They have to add it to the end of the school year I think....not exactly sure. But I agreed that it's just part of winter....in NYC...

Some districts can't due to Project Graduation; the last day can't be changed, so they build in 3 days then take away from holidays, starting with President's Day.

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Just now, weatherpruf said:

Not in New England, according to my sources. They laugh at the snow days here; my fellow social worker is from NH. That said, even they wouldn't open in this kinda storm. My BIL in ME said when he was a kid they only closed for ice, not snow.

wy should they laugh when their is a big snowstorm boston closes their schools not for one day but 2 days nyc has not done that for any storm except for sandy

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11 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

NYC public schools never used to close, and the world didn’t end. This idea of closing is a new concept and pretty pointless in Manhattan. Outer boroughs are somewhat of a different story.

absolutely - people are absurdly soft nowadays

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1 minute ago, USCG RS said:
2 minutes ago, Mark McIntyre said:
They have to add it to the end of the school year I think....not exactly sure. But I agreed that it's just part of winter....in NYC...

Federal funding. It all comes down to federal funding. As long as school is in session that day they receive it. If they close, they lose money. Someone explained why it is not made up for a snow day, but, being honest, I forgot.

State funding, which is vastly more important. They could close for the year in May if they wanted, but would lose funding. This was an issue in 94. There are emergency provisions in cases of fire or something, not for snow.

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