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March 7th 2018 Coastal Storm thread (not obs)


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20 minutes ago, North and West said:


what is this signaling?

yup, thundersnow. CAPE of 237 is nice with that amount of omega, but 700-500 lapse rates are pretty astounding at 7.9 C/km. it's very close to mixing in pellets, but that is technically a snow profile. 

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Interesting these divides roughly form near our highways; in NJ the TPK seems to often be the dividing line; others might be 287 or 78 depending on the storm. Or maybe it's just our need as humans to see patterns. But the NWS also uses these; in this storm they are referencing the east side of the TPK as being on the lower end, for example.
Science does revolve around patterns....
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Driving home heading west this evening, at the 287/78 junction, I had a 43F reading with rain/snow shower. I think that tells the tale of our atmosphere for this storm. Clearly very cold aloft.

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5 minutes ago, USCG RS said:
15 minutes ago, weatherpruf said:
Interesting these divides roughly form near our highways; in NJ the TPK seems to often be the dividing line; others might be 287 or 78 depending on the storm. Or maybe it's just our need as humans to see patterns. But the NWS also uses these; in this storm they are referencing the east side of the TPK as being on the lower end, for example.

Science does revolve around patterns....

Indeed. My question as a social scientist would be is there a relationship between these things. Were some highways developed because conditions were more passable during certain weather? And has your thinking changed at all on this particular storm.....

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6 minutes ago, weatherpruf said:

Indeed. My question as a social scientist would be is there a relationship between these things. Were some highways developed because conditions were more passable during certain weather? And has your thinking changed at all on this particular storm.....

Some roads might've been old game trails. Some of Boston's old roads were cow paths originally. At a broader level, you could argue our country might not exist today but for the timely intervention of weather. If dense fog had not allowed the surrounded and vastly outgunned Washington to escape from Long Island with his army, we might still be singing "Rule, Britannia."

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yup, thundersnow. CAPE of 237 is nice with that amount of omega, but 700-500 lapse rates are pretty astounding at 7.9 C/km. it's very close to mixing in pellets, but that is technically a snow profile. 

Thank you; does it indicate where it’s favorable to occur?


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2 minutes ago, Hoth said:

Some roads might've been old game trails. Some of Boston's old roads were cow paths originally. At a broader level, you could argue our country might not exist today but for the timely intervention of weather. If dense fog had not allowed the surrounded and vastly outgunned Washington to escape from Long Island with his army, we might still be singing "Rule, Britannia."

Great points! I think one of the retired accuweather mets ( Abrams? ) was going to write a book about that. Brian Fagan has written on the little Ice Age and Long Summer periods. And some of the game trails developed by following trails made by game looking for salt sources. The Mongols were headed to Japan but wiped out by the monsoon ( and inadequate ships ). What are you expecting up your way from this set up?

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3 minutes ago, weatherpruf said:

Great points! I think one of the retired accuweather mets ( Abrams? ) was going to write a book about that. Brian Fagan has written on the little Ice Age and Long Summer periods. And some of the game trails developed by following trails made by game looking for salt sources. The Mongols were headed to Japan but wiped out by the monsoon ( and inadequate ships ). What are you expecting up your way from this set up?

Hard to say. I'm a few miles inland from New Haven. Depending on how tucked this thing is, I could either have a quick thump over to sleet/rain, sort of like last March, or if it rolls under Long Island I could put up a great number. Gonna be fairly dense pasty snow most likely. Still, however it plays out, it should be fun.

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