Burghblizz Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, sauss06 said: i know, or i should say i think we have discussed this before, but wasn't one of our Biggies considered a Miller B? (Biggies meaning like 83, 96) meaning that it has actually happened once? Not sure the evolution was exactly the same, but I believe Christmas 2002 in that area had a storm that had Miller B type evolution, and came together JUST in time for a double digit snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Atomixwx said: February 04, 2010 was a Miller B, was it not? Hmm...I was thinking it was the 2nd storm on the 10th. I might be wrong. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, sauss06 said: i know, or i should say i think we have discussed this before, but wasn't one of our Biggies considered a Miller B? (Biggies meaning like 83, 96) meaning that it has actually happened once? I'd defer to mag for all of em, but if memo serves, 93 was an A christmas miracle around 96 was a B. 83 dont remember. What I like to see for B's to get an A on the scoresheet is for the primary to stat so far west, that it has less influence on midlevels, and when you have a sufficient NAO the energy transfer is far enough south of our latitude to let the coastal mature to a point that we get in on the goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherman Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, maytownpawx said: Hmm...I was thinking it was the 2nd storm on the 10th. I might be wrong. Again. The February 10th storm was the Miller B. We had the WAA snow the night before and then a big lull until the coastal took over in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, maytownpawx said: Hmm...I was thinking it was the 2nd storm on the 10th. I might be wrong. Again. You are correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Not sure the evolution was exactly the same, but I believe Christmas 2002 in that area had a storm that had Miller B type evolution, and came together JUST in time for a double digit snowfall. Classic Miller B storm. One of my Favs. 9” in Lancaster. 3” per hour snow rates.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, maytownpawx said: Hmm...I was thinking it was the 2nd storm on the 10th. I might be wrong. Again. yes storm #2 was a B. that was the one my son and I had our snowmobile accident in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Superstorm said: Classic Miller B storm. One of my Favs. 9” in Lancaster. 3” per hour snow rates. . but i remember how scarily close we were to the R/S line. on that. that one defined a 40 N storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, daxx said: You are correct! Brian! Where you been buddy? We must be looking good for you to show up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, maytownpawx said: Brian! Where you been buddy? We must be looking good for you to show up... I've been lurking all Winter. This one has my attention. Miller B storms can be heartbreaking around here, but when you start to see models set up bands to the west of us thats a good signal. In the end I do think it will shift east northeast some but we still get a good amount of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherman Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I'm not getting too confident yet. The Euro could change that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, anotherman said: I'm not getting too confident yet. The Euro could change that.... i won't feel confident until i'm shoveling and drinking a Miller High Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Watch upgraded to Warning URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service State College PA 1159 AM EST Tue Mar 6 2018 PAZ053-057>059-065-066-070100- /O.UPG.KCTP.WS.A.0005.180307T0500Z-180308T0500Z/ /O.NEW.KCTP.WS.W.0006.180307T0500Z-180308T0500Z/ Columbia-Dauphin-Schuylkill-Lebanon-York-Lancaster- Including the cities of Bloomsburg, Berwick, Harrisburg, Hershey, Pottsville, Lebanon, York, and Lancaster 1159 AM EST Tue Mar 6 2018 ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO MIDNIGHT EST WEDNESDAY NIGHT... * WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 3 to 6 inches, with localized amounts up to 8 inches, are expected. * WHERE...Portions of central Pennsylvania. * WHEN...From midnight tonight to midnight EST Wednesday night. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Plan on difficult travel conditions, including during the morning commute on Wednesday. Be prepared for significant reductions in visibility at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Ukie on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Superstorm said: Ukie on board . dude thats a crush job right there.... me likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Ukie should mean Euro isn’t bad ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherman Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, sauss06 said: i won't feel confident until i'm shoveling and drinking a Miller High Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, canderson said: Ukie should mean Euro isn’t bad ... yep. Hope it doesnt wailver from the camp. we may have to shoot on sight if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 so like normal i'm confused. I thought it was to start later tonight, almost looks like it doesn't start until early hours tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, sauss06 said: so like normal i'm confused. I thought it was to start later tonight, almost looks like it doesn't start until early hours tomorrow. WAA (warm air advection) is tonight. Typically gets out ahead of main show. Then we wait for coastal transfer and the main show to start later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Euro is over 1 inch qpf for a lot of us. I was not expecting that. Nice run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowalot Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 50 minutes ago, djr5001 said: Watch upgraded to Warning URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service State College PA 1159 AM EST Tue Mar 6 2018 PAZ053-057>059-065-066-070100- /O.UPG.KCTP.WS.A.0005.180307T0500Z-180308T0500Z/ /O.NEW.KCTP.WS.W.0006.180307T0500Z-180308T0500Z/ Columbia-Dauphin-Schuylkill-Lebanon-York-Lancaster- Including the cities of Bloomsburg, Berwick, Harrisburg, Hershey, Pottsville, Lebanon, York, and Lancaster 1159 AM EST Tue Mar 6 2018 ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO MIDNIGHT EST WEDNESDAY NIGHT... * WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 3 to 6 inches, with localized amounts up to 8 inches, are expected. * WHERE...Portions of central Pennsylvania. * WHEN...From midnight tonight to midnight EST Wednesday night. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Plan on difficult travel conditions, including during the morning commute on Wednesday. Be prepared for significant reductions in visibility at times. Based on current modeling we think low, high or about right. Since it seems to cover a few counties east to west I am thinking higher east. But of course modeling is bringing that band further west. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, daxx said: Euro is over 1 inch qpf for a lot of us. I was not expecting that. Nice run! Wow! Great news. Feeling better...still, it's a Miller B... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I should have said most of us in the lsv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, snowalot said: Based on current modeling we think low, high or about right. Since it seems to cover a few counties east to west I am thinking higher east. But of course modeling is bringing that band further west. Thoughts? March and ratios are likely playing in. If this storm were a couple weeks back and were a little colder, we'd easily add 1.25-1.5 multiplier to those numbers. I'd think 6-8:1 ratios more likely. will still take this in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, maytownpawx said: Wow! Great news. Feeling better...still, it's a Miller B... Yea I think we are in a good spot. Even folks to our west look good for warning snow on the Euro. I just hope we all cash in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Maps?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Nice to see some numbers piling up but March snows are "usually" one day wonders. We're not that far from September sun angle equivalent. And with that, I'll venture the roads are mostly dry by Thursday afternoon. Still cool, but just not as impactful as it would be two months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 this is what will hold back big rations/totals. Height of stom is occuring during this panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, pasnownut said: this is what will hold back big rations/totals. Height of stom is occuring during this panel. Maybe...but I remember during last week's storm that my actual temp was significantly lower than what the GFS was showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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