Ralph Wiggum Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 still a blue bomber for se pa 4"...plus doesnt change most of us over til 16-17z which is likely the absolutely latest imo as I see most of us changing in a hour tops..Yeah, nams were flipping us over between 7-10am but pushed it back this run. Probably time to put the models to rest on this one anyway. Nowcast/dynamics time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 27 minutes ago, JTA66 said: Winds definitely starting to pick up now. Hard to say, there could be a few wet flakes trying to mix in, or it just could be larger rain drops. It's wet flakes mixing in, temp down to 38F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief83 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Worcester, PA. 37 degrees - mostly rain, but just starting to see some mixing of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcutter Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 It's snowing in Coatesville now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Currently moderate rain and 37F. Up to 0.78" for today so far. Numerous wind damage reports going on in NoVA and snow reports in suburban Baltimore - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Snow at the shore. Grass white roads wet. Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Ralph Wiggum said: 10 minutes ago, The Iceman said: still a blue bomber for se pa 4"...plus doesnt change most of us over til 16-17z which is likely the absolutely latest imo as I see most of us changing in a hour tops.. Yeah, nams were flipping us over between 7-10am but pushed it back this run. Probably time to put the models to rest on this one anyway. Nowcast/dynamics time. agreed...wherever that death band lands is going to be the big winners here...dont care what the models say. thing is a beast. doesn't have much west movement so it is training over the same areas. roads may be covered under that band temps be damned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillvilleWx Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 35 w/ 90/10 snow in Thorndale. Changed over around 930 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyweather Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 And just like that, heavy snow with already a coating on grassy surfaces. Keep in mind I’m at one of the lowest elevations of the Poconos...it wasn’t supposed to change over until late morning/early afternoon.Can't be lower then me? I'm at 550'. Snowing sideways now. Sent from my LG-H871 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkd Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I've been on this board it seems forever and feel stupid asking this. What is: blue bomb and white rain ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Just now, anthonyweather said: Can't be lower then me? I'm at 550'. Snowing sideways now. Sent from my LG-H871 using Tapatalk Is Schnecksville considered the Poconos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 wont be long now until that band reaches more doorstep. it is pivoting west further north, not so much south of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 Just now, wkd said: I've been on this board it seems forever and feel stupid asking this. What is: blue bomb and white rain ? hey man no such thing as a stupid question. sorry I can be such a weenie that i forget not everyone knows the lingo. Blue bomb = weenie talk for wet snow that sticks to everything White rain = weenie talk for snow that melts immediately on contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkd Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Getting a little heavier snow now. The yellow returns on COD should be over me soon. 34F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkd Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, The Iceman said: hey man no such thing as a stupid question. sorry I can be such a weenie that i forget not everyone knows the lingo. Blue bomb = weenie talk for wet snow that sticks to everything White rain = weenie talk for snow that melts immediately on contact Thanks. White rain now and hoping for blue bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 agreed...wherever that death band lands is going to be the big winners here...dont care what the models say. thing is a beast. doesn't have much west movement so it is training over the same areas. roads may be covered under that band temps be damned... That band almost stationary. That is likely the narrow banding of heavy snow the mesos were keying on when slamming the Delaware River Gap and areas just across the bridge in Central NJ. Congrats to those areas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 hey man no such thing as a stupid question. sorry I can be such a weenie that i forget not everyone knows the lingo. Blue bomb = weenie talk for wet snow that sticks to everything White rain = weenie talk for snow that melts immediately on contactSnow TV also is another good one lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 The changeover here in Wrightstown, PA has begun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Just now, Ralph Wiggum said: 4 minutes ago, The Iceman said: hey man no such thing as a stupid question. sorry I can be such a weenie that i forget not everyone knows the lingo. Blue bomb = weenie talk for wet snow that sticks to everything White rain = weenie talk for snow that melts immediately on contact Snow TV also is another good one lol Don't forget "conversational snow". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 looking at the OBS, temps are 36-38F just outside of the band but temps have dropped to 33-34 inside the band...despite being lower elevation/"less favorable" spot climo speaking. I don't think the models picked up that a band like that would be able to have the kind of power to drop the temp. The Delaware river area should be in heavy snow by 11 am at the absolute latest...and with obs showing the temp drop along with the heavy rates, i don't foresee an issue of sticking. there is a lot to be positive about so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Ralph Wiggum said: 9 minutes ago, The Iceman said: agreed...wherever that death band lands is going to be the big winners here...dont care what the models say. thing is a beast. doesn't have much west movement so it is training over the same areas. roads may be covered under that band temps be damned... That band almost stationary. That is likely the narrow banding of heavy snow the mesos were keying on when slamming the Delaware River Gap and areas just across the bridge in Central NJ. Congrats to those areas! Yeah that was heavy snow. Drove in it on my to work where its raining here in Hopewell Mercer county now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Don't forget "conversational snow".Mood flakes?Squirrel topper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Now slowly changing to snow here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 Just now, JERSEYSNOWROB said: Yeah that was heavy snow. Drove in it on my to work where its raining here in Hopewell Mercer county now. Hopewell should be heavy snow in 10 mins...I'm thinking trenton should be in it by 1030 latest. it isn't making a large progress west but it is coming slowly. I think right along the river or just on the jersey side may be the winners here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkd Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 getting under some of the yellows. Still raining but a lot of heavier snow mixed in. Good size flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, The Iceman said: Hopewell should be heavy snow in 10 mins...I'm thinking trenton should be in it by 1030 latest. it isn't making a large progress west but it is coming slowly. I think right along the river or just on the jersey side may be the winners here. you need to look at the radar further north. The area further north is pivoting much quicker and will collapse on all of SEPA within the next two hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 Just now, wkd said: getting under some of the yellows. Still raining but a lot of heavier snow mixed in. Good size flakes. watch your temps....areas have seen a 2-3 degree drop in temp in 10-15 mins under that band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, The Iceman said: looking at the OBS, temps are 36-38F just outside of the band but temps have dropped to 33-34 inside the band...despite being lower elevation/"less favorable" spot climo speaking. I don't think the models picked up that a band like that would be able to have the kind of power to drop the temp. The Delaware river area should be in heavy snow by 11 am at the absolute latest...and with obs showing the temp drop along with the heavy rates, i don't foresee an issue of sticking. there is a lot to be positive about so far. This is the version of the nexrad with snow/sleet/ice signature and am not sure if that band is all snow (although fooling with the elevation shows it obviously colder up higher) - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Looks like Mt. Holly is on board with a more widespread snowier outcome today (minus the heavier amounts): .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... 820 AM Update...We are currently working on updating the forecast and should be out by 9 AM. Colder air wrapping around the southwestern side of the low has allowed for rain to mix with and even change over to snow in NE MD and DE, especially when precip intensity temporarily increases (added contribution via enhanced dynamical cooling). Based on these recent ground- truth reports, mesoanalysis and what we are seeing in hi-res rapid refresh guidance, the trend is cooler or closer to the 12 km NAM and NAM nest. However, we do not buy into the extreme outlier snowfall accumulations these models are showing (e.g., 5-10" of snow along and east of the DE Valley down into the greater Phila area) b/c these algorithms assume a 10:1 SLR and b/c the model explicit microphysics package indicates something other than just pure snow (rain/snow mix) with probability of frozen precip values in the 40-80 percent range. More details to come after the update... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyweather Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Is Schnecksville considered the Poconos? I live in carbon now.Sent from my LG-H871 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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