moneypitmike Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, 25thamendmentfan said: Some of the jbenedet ball busting that went on today was over the top. He's an asset to this site. His posts are intellectually sound, well written, respectful and erudite. He never goes off topic with political rants nor does he intentionally needle posters like ginxie. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 The euro is THE EURO, so of course that dented my confidence somewhat. It was a warmer look at hr 24, that then simply fell in line with 0z's outcome. I'm a bit skeptical of that. The euro -- like me -- is largely all alone, but on the other side of it; warmer versus colder respectively. I want to hold out for the 18z mesos before signficnantly taking down confidence . I have a hunch that the 12z EPS will be slightly north/west of the op and that could represent another flag, that the op is too cold... The 12z GEFS were also notably warmer than 6z. Euro H5 look also continues to trend warmer, with higher heights over the West Atlantic and in SE Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 We dent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Fellow airline met for Jet Blue. Good met too. What threads is he typically in? Do you find that they make the cancellation decisions early? I always get the sense a lot of them are game-time decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 NWS calling for 4-8" here, certainly WSW criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, moneypitmike said: What threads is he typically in? Do you find that they make the cancellation decisions early? I always get the sense a lot of them are game-time decisions. He lurks in here. I would check today and tonight to see what the status is. It may not be a game time decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 One issue the pope had is that what he was saying meant less snow, which has always a predictable reaction of disgust and one liners within 48 hrs to a storm. Will actually backed up his difference of opinion on CAD w maps and meteorology and i know other mets disagreed basically that Dover nh would not rain, which seems obvious to many. Now i wish we just had a map and we could see forecast totals that those arguing were predicting bc some people are closer in forecasts than discussion would lead you to believe. Also, i beleive he was just saying hey there may be more liquid SE of 495 (in mass)and near the coast in NH.(Thou dover isn't really on the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, CoastalWx said: He lurks in here. I would check today and tonight to see what the status is. It may not be a game time decision. Thanks. Staying home for 6-12 is more appealing than sitting in Grand Rapids and Lafayette City, IN. No offense to those from those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, 25thamendmentfan said: Some of the jbenedet ball busting that went on today was over the top. He's an asset to this site. His posts are intellectually sound, well written, respectful and erudite. He never goes off topic with political rants nor does he intentionally needle posters like ginxie. Over the top? LOL. We know he understands weather. Just simply giving the years of experience we've had with these events and knowing the climo around here. And most of us usually admit pretty quick if we were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: One issue the pope had is that what he was saying meant less snow, which has always a predictable reaction of disgust and one liners within 48 hrs to a storm. Will actually backed up his difference of opinion on CAD w maps and meteorology. Now i wish we just had a map and we could see forecast totals that those arguing were predicting bc some people are closer in forecasts than discussion would lead you to believe. Also, i beleive he was just saying hey there may be more liquid SE of 495 (in mass)and near the coast in NH. It was pretty much whether he would see rain and temps above 32. I think most of us agreed he would not go above 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx2fish Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Pretty much expected at this point but the EPS are pretty much dead on the op. Maybe you can argue a hair colder @850 00z thurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, 25thamendmentfan said: Some of the jbenedet ball busting that went on today was over the top. He's an asset to this site. His posts are intellectually sound, well written, respectful and erudite. He never goes off topic with political rants nor does he intentionally needle posters like ginxie. Well, pig piles sometimes happen on forums. Pope is pretty tough, he goes toe to toe with the best of them in the PR forums. That's where I got to know him and was happy when he moved to New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 In Pope's defense even the Swiss tickled north, so other than euro...I would say there was a warmer tendency..esp just aloft. But I don't see this as an issue where he is or the interior when it comes to sniffing 32F. I think guidance is close to a track near or just south of BOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, 25thamendmentfan said: Some of the jbenedet ball busting that went on today was over the top. He's an asset to this site. His posts are intellectually sound, well written, respectful and erudite. He never goes off topic with political rants nor does he intentionally needle posters like ginxie. Isn't it ironic, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Snow, then Scalping enroute for a lot of folks methinks. BOX has upped their p n c for my hood for 6-10 then 1-3 10" looks to be the typical high end for these events. Sticking with my 6-9" idea overall The Pope abides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Most of the modeling is pretty damn juicy. i'm happy this is coming during the day, should be a few hours of +SN fun tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, MaineJayhawk said: Isn't it ironic, don't you think? It's like rain...on a SWFE day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: In Pope's defense even the Swiss tickled north, so other than euro...I would say there was a warmer tendency..esp just aloft. But I don't see this as an issue where he is or the interior when it comes to sniffing 32F. I think guidance is close to a track near or just south of BOS. Well, we have the NAM coming out shortly to toss. Unless of course it comes in colder in which case it's embraced and loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, HIPPYVALLEY said: Well, pig piles sometimes happen on forums. Pope is pretty tough, he goes toe to toe with the best of them in the PR forums. That's where I got to know him and was happy when he moved to New England. Yeah Pope can handle himself fine...We bust balls with the pope pics...but the discussion never degrades into uncivil discourse. We talk in the econ thread all the time over at PR forum anyway. There is probably some home turf bias going on too...we've been forecasting for New England for a long time and have seen time and time again how the models underestimate the CAD at the surface...so it's easy for us to just say "tossed" when the sfc low is being shoved over HubbDave's fanny. He's still relatively new in his location, so its understandable to be skeptical of all the tossing of model guidance and believe that the temps will go above freezing in Dover, NH...and maybe he will be right too. But looking at those maps and past experience tells me no way it happens. We will find out tomorrow...so we won't have to wait long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Who/what is a pope ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, HoarfrostHubb said: Snow, then Scalping enroute for a lot of folks methinks. BOX has upped their p n c for my hood for 6-10 then 1-3 10" looks to be the typical high end for these events. Sticking with my 6-9" idea overall The Pope abides We all know rarely do these go above 10". IIRC I think December 2007 event dropped 14" in Greenfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Typhoon Tip said: Who/what is a pope ? jbenedet.....the name always looked like "benedict" which reminded us of the previous pope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 John Paul Benedict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Who/what is a pope ? Some on here secretly call you Cardinal Tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, MaineJayhawk said: Isn't it ironic, don't you think? 7 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: It's like rain...on a SWFE day... LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx2fish Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: In Pope's defense even the Swiss tickled north, so other than euro...I would say there was a warmer tendency..esp just aloft. But I don't see this as an issue where he is or the interior when it comes to sniffing 32F. I think guidance is close to a track near or just south of BOS. Just looking at the accumulated Snow qpf the Swiss looks close to the 12z Euro. A little more generous on the southern fringes. Brings the low near your head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 oooh... k. i thought maybe this event needed someone who can walk on water to get it resolved into a cold outcome - ahhahaha j/k... yeah, so, this is gonna be interesting little war-fare between the Euro and the NAM this close in. smart money goes to the Euro of course... but everrrr so often there is that NAM whammy success story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 jesus christ now there's a swiss model? really - guess i'll google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, wx2fish said: Just looking at the accumulated Snow qpf the Swiss looks close to the 12z Euro. A little more generous on the southern fringes. Brings the low near your head I like the Swiss for temps, but how does it score with snow? I'm still leary of that model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said: jesus christ now there's a swiss model? really - guess i'll google It's on the weather.us site Super Swiss!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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