weatherwiz Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Yes...that’s the way I envisioned it too..your last sentence sums it up well in my mind. The distance between the ridge and the troughs shorten obviously... Perfect. I'll be super excited if my interpretation is correct. Perhaps one day I'll be able to get the time again to explore all this stuff and study/analyze more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I find the wavelengths typically get wonky after the second half of March. At least anecdotally. Even the April Fools bliz in 97 had a trough out west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Man the populace is figuring winter (read snow) is over. Everyone but us is going to be extremely upset come March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I find the wavelengths typically get wonky after the second half of March. At least anecdotally. Even the April Fools bliz in 97 had a trough out west. Pretty solid omega block! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, weathafella said: Man the populace is figuring winter (read snow) is over. Everyone but us is going to be extremely upset come March. I had to post in NNE thread. Seeing posts of a brutal 10 day stretch up there was just too much. Starting Thursday winter returns to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: I had to post in NNE thread. Seeing posts of a brutal 10 day stretch up there was just too much. Starting Thursday winter returns to them. What are you seeing Friday SNE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Nah... that '97 thing was a point anomaly in a sea of foment ... almost like one of those "rogue wave" deals....where some hapless cargo ship hauling 700,000 tons of iron ore in a standard chop sea suddenly keels from a 120' abyssal wall of N. Atlantic death out of no where. Only it wasn't so much a 'rogue wave' in the atmosphere ... but suffices to say, you can be rollin' along and then just have something like that happen. Although, my recollection of that event did have a better lead predictive skill then some may be aware. I recall Harvey Leonard ...some 5 days prior, mentioning the off possibility of what that could do "...Should it pass under the latitude of Long Island..." - I recall that statement as precise. At that time, the models had it well SE of Nova Scotia, ...however, the ensemble mean, as Walter Drag mentioned ( at the time still at BOX) had a lot of ensemble smearing back toward the west so it was something to keep an eye on ... Well, heh. Sure enough, cycle after cycle...it plotted west by enough naut miles per run that eventually some 1.5 day prior...finally, they all coalesced quintessentially just as Harvey mused many days before. One thing that also stood out to me is just how incredulous the general forecasting ambit was about that whole scenario. Oh, going 6-12" is nothing to flout on April 1... And so, they get a lot of credit. But, the kinematics were always there for much, much more than that.. I recall Barry Burbank was talking about 12" over Metro West in his forecast, and his were among the higher numbers. That thing was so perfectly structured in all facet, spacial to temporal.. the perfection in its self was the anomaly. That thing in May would have done something similar... though you'd be even less likely to set that up in the first place as the entire hemisphere wouldn't deliver it by then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: What are you seeing Friday SNE? I posted about it this AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 One thing I just want to get out there ... if not offering some reining conservatism ... a -NAO is not a slam dunk for high-wheeler ice cream parties. Idiosyncrasies in structure and placement of any high latitude blocking over the NW arc of the Atlantic Basic could chagrin the schit out of that whole period. Not saying it will, but... seems there's some tendency for hopes to fly here and that's okay, as long as you have a place to land that flight ...whether you are in this for practical or emotional reasons aside. For winter enthusiasts... you can be happy that there is a signal. For me, I'm leaving it at that though... NOA: giveth, and taketh away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx2fish Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Euros pretty wintry across CNE/NNE sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, wx2fish said: Euros pretty wintry across CNE/NNE sunday Looks like we will have a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, wx2fish said: Euros pretty wintry across CNE/NNE sunday The models actually shows a good deal of 850mb thermal compression all the way down into N. Massachusetts 12z Sunday, where it's 0 C ... quite a sensible shock from Saturday afternoon to that point in time Sunday morning... but, it's probably indicative of a cold boundary layer knifing in from the NE all way to NYC or more... mix issues therein - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: The models actually shows a good deal of 850mb thermal compression all the way down into N. Massachusetts 12z Sunday, where it's 0 C ... quite a sensible shock from Saturday afternoon to that point in time Sunday morning... but, it's probably indicative of a cold boundary layer knifing in from the NE all way to NYC or more... mix issues therein - Yeah that has all the earmarks of snow/ice all the way down to NYC burbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Also - I'd be happy to go above MOS a couple clicks or more for Thursday given this Euro synopsis that morning. Big high pressing in from the NW with only weak CAA, ... and you end up with d-slope kata drying under still +4 to +7 900 mb in that look and you're probably going to bust MOS, given no cloud/post Feb 15 sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 woa woa woa... Who said anything about snow ... my god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 nice! you can really see the stress of the NAO on this model run now... it's been getting steadily more coherent but this run really starts driving the point home with the trajectories south more obviously - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, Typhoon Tip said: nice! you can really see the stress of the NAO on this model run now... it's been getting steadily more coherent but this run really start driving the trajectories south more obviously - When the first potential is squashed, I look forward to the whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: When the first potential is squashed, I look forward to the whining. haha it's like... that far-side cartoon? the illustration shows two dudes prostrated over a slurry pool under a single desert palm with the orb of the sun hammering down... their prints in the sand as though they had meandered upon the life saving water source from miles ... and the one guy's head is turned toward the other as they stoop with a caption bubble that reads, "What? -no cups!" only in this case, the entitlement is the expecting dividends off a -NAO... Right, like we said early, be cautious in one's optimism if not leery - these things are not always a good thing for winter enthusiasm. We hedge our bets... that's all - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Snowy Euro run for many of the downtrodden. Helluva way to run a torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 you know, actually ... while this run does suggest those changes as said, the wave spacing is bad. It's just enough of an east based set up that the L/W couple is pulled seaward out of reach. The NAO is really the wicked witch - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Friday’s gone. She gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Ha ha ... 'helluva way to run a torch' ? that's gotta be a joke, right... like, it's snowing now at 53 F ... and will be snowing when it's 70 F on Wednesday .... Yeah, helluva a way... The torch wasn't supposed to be next weekend... less I'm missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Always exciting to see low pressure systems pin wheeling counter clockwise in the north Atlantic. I guess I'll have to follow the Azores weather to find out what my future holds...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Ha ha ... 'helluva way to run a torch' ? that's gotta be a joke, right... like, it's snowing now at 53 F ... and will be snowing when it's 70 F on Wednesday .... Yeah, helluva a way... The torch wasn't supposed to be next weekend... less I'm missing something. Whoooosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Friday’s gone. She gone Um Did you look at the Euro ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Um Did you look at the Euro ha The answer contains two letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Um Did you look at the Euro ha Yup. Congrats Freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Yup. Congrats Freak Lol what r u talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Climo max has gained 5 degrees at BOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, weathafella said: Climo max has gained 5 degrees at BOS. Yup. Car interiors now being warmed by the sun too. I think we get at least one biggie before the fat lady sings though. It’s coming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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