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Mid Winter Banter, Observation and General Discussion 2018


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50 minutes ago, LurkerBoy said:

This is legit unsettling. There is nothing enjoyable about this. A sign of things to come, and if you don't think so, you're lying to yourself. It is 76 in Brooklyn right now a week after Valentine's Day. Absolutely bizarre

I bet they said that in Feb 1954 too

Monthly Data for February 1954
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State
Name
Station Type
Highest Max Temperature
NY GLENHAM COOP 78
CT DANBURY COOP 77
NJ LAKEWOOD 2 ENE COOP 77
NJ RUNYON COOP 77
CT WATERBURY ANACONDA COOP 77
NY STEWART FIELD WBAN 76
NJ LAKEHURST NAS WBAN 76
NJ FREEHOLD-MARLBORO COOP 76
NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 76
NJ ELIZABETH COOP 76
NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 76
NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 76
PA NORRISTOWN COOP 75
PA PHOENIXVILLE 1 E COOP 75
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Some are still holding out...

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WEATHER ROUNDUP FOR MAINE AND NEW HAMPSHIRE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAY ME
200 PM EST WED FEB 21 2018

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CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
PORTLAND       PTSUNNY   64  54  69 S10       30.02F
SANFORD        FAIR      72  57  59 SW10G16   30.03F
BAR HARBOR     CLOUDY    45  45 100 SW10      30.02F FOG
WISCASSET      FAIR      58  52  80 SW7       30.02F
ROCKLAND       CLOUDY    52  51  97 W9        30.01F
FRYEBURG       FAIR      66  52  60 VRB7G16   30.00F
LEWISTONAUBURN FAIR      63  50  62 S7        30.00S
AUGUSTA        FAIR      44  43  96 S6        29.99F
WATERVILLE     FAIR      46  44  93 S7        29.93F
BANGOR         FAIR      49  45  86 S10       29.97F
GREENVILLE       N/A     53  47  79 SE5       29.88F
MILLINOCKET    FAIR      48  44  86 VRB5      29.91F
HOULTON        FAIR      48  45  89 SW7       29.87F
PRESQUE ISLE   CLOUDY    40  39  97 S8        29.87R
FRENCHVILLE    LGT RAIN  44  44 100 S7        29.81S VSB 3/4
CARIBOU        CLOUDY    43  39  86 S9        29.83F
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13 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

I bet they said that in Feb 1954 too

Monthly Data for February 1954
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State
Name
Station Type
Highest Max Temperature
NY GLENHAM COOP 78
CT DANBURY COOP 77
NJ LAKEWOOD 2 ENE COOP 77
NJ RUNYON COOP 77
CT WATERBURY ANACONDA COOP 77
NY STEWART FIELD WBAN 76
NJ LAKEHURST NAS WBAN 76
NJ FREEHOLD-MARLBORO COOP 76
NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 76
NJ ELIZABETH COOP 76
NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 76
NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 76
PA NORRISTOWN COOP 75
PA PHOENIXVILLE 1 E COOP 75

I'd say it's still pretty incredible and I'm willing to bet there is some climate change element to this all - making mega ridges (that absolutely shattered records) more likely. 

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3 minutes ago, MetHerb said:

Here's mine...

The sap flow has been awesome the past week or so.  I've never had so much sap.  I collected over 1500 gallons in the past couple of days off about 600 taps.  I guess it's a good problem to have....

 

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Just curious as to how big your operation is? Did you plant Sugar Maples? I assume it's a PVC system?

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6 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

PWM and CON with all time Feb highs, MWN was already mentioned for their all time winter high.

NH likely broke their state Feb record (looks like the CWSU in ASH last year at 73 was the previous). ME likely has broken the state record as well with SFM getting up to at least 74.

This is daily EPO data

2018 02 16 -101.15
2018 02 17 -142.52
2018 02 18 -182.21
2018 02 19 -217.15

Current says it's -210 (positive correlation)

 

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2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

In 2015 Jan. Feb. we set all kinds of record low 500mb and 850 temps yet no barrage of  this is things to come posts , tweets were around? The world has gone crazy, yes the climate is warming, yes this has happened before, no we are not all going to be killed off.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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38 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

I bet they said that in Feb 1954 too

Monthly Data for February 1954
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State
Name
Station Type
Highest Max Temperature
NY GLENHAM COOP 78
CT DANBURY COOP 77
NJ LAKEWOOD 2 ENE COOP 77
NJ RUNYON COOP 77
CT WATERBURY ANACONDA COOP 77
NY STEWART FIELD WBAN 76
NJ LAKEHURST NAS WBAN 76
NJ FREEHOLD-MARLBORO COOP 76
NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 76
NJ ELIZABETH COOP 76
NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 76
NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 76
PA NORRISTOWN COOP 75
PA PHOENIXVILLE 1 E COOP 75

Exactly.  People are so dramatic.   Sometimes it gets very mild in the winter...sometimes record breaking warm.   Everything is a catastrophe to the warministas...end of times incoming cuz it's upper 60's and low 70's in Feb.  

 

Give me a break.  I'm with ya Ginx.

 

 

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Just now, WinterWolf said:

Exactly.  People are so dramatic.   Sometimes it gets very mild in the winter...sometimes record breaking warm.   Everything is a catastrophe to the warministas...end of times incoming cuz it's upper 60's and low 70's in Feb.  

 

 

there were a lot of records broken today for sure, all timers but we have seen all timers records fall in either direction, it happens. To correlate record soundings with climate change, yea not so sure about that, I mean just look at the 850 low records in the last 3 years, climate change?

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1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

there were a lot of records broken today for sure, all timers but we have seen all timers records fall in either direction, it happens. To correlate record soundings with climate change, yea not so sure about that, I mean just look at the 850 low records in the last 3 years, climate change?

This.

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1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

there were a lot of records broken today for sure, all timers but we have seen all timers records fall in either direction, it happens. To correlate record soundings with climate change, yea not so sure about that, I mean just look at the 850 low records in the last 3 years, climate change?

I mean there is a difference between Feb 2015 mirroring something that happened in Feb 1934, and Feb 2018 breaking records that happened in Feb 2017.

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2 minutes ago, snowman21 said:

I would say the hysteria is because of the lopsidedness of it. You can go down the list of statistics and see how they are all heavily warm biased. This winter was effectively 13 days long. Take them out and it has been a blow torch of a winter.

like saying take out the 13 hot Days in July 12 and it would have been a cold summer

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1 hour ago, dryslot said:

I'm not sure, But the water will go right to the top of the tree, Met herb could answer it though, Lol, Just found this.

This is what an old timer told me 30 or so years ago:

Wind out of the North, the sap Cometh Forth
Wind out of the East, the sap runs the Least
Wind out of the South, there is a Drought
Wind out of the West, the sap runs the Best
 

Are you sure Ginx didn’t uncover that in an old scroll? :lol:

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1 minute ago, OceanStWx said:

I mean there is a difference between Feb 2015 mirroring something that happened in Feb 1934, and Feb 2018 breaking records that happened in Feb 2017.

is there? I mean you set 2nd highest Min temps in Portland Jan 12 beating 2017 on the same day but still didn't beat 1885. I don't think records being broken one year apart indicate any sort of pattern or climate change. 

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South winds finally moved the needle in Augusta - up 9° the past hour to 53 at 3 PM.  Also noted NYC at 77, for a new monthly record - old one was 75, reached in 1930 and 1985.

Edit:  Since AGW modeling/theory includes more extremes (in both directions, though more warmer than colder), both the current blast and Feb. 2015 fit in.  I thought it interesting that the Farmington co-op established 2 all-time coldest months in a 12-month period, March 2014 and February 2015, the latter followed 10 months after by their mildest December.

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