Whineminster Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I blame AGW. is AGW Al Gore Warming? I feel like a dumais for asking but I not sure I ever saw it actually spelled out in my 4 years here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Whineminster said: is AGW Al Gore Warming? I feel like a dumais for asking but I not sure I ever saw it actually spelled out in my 4 years here. Anthropogenic Global Warming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Whineminster said: is AGW Al Gore Warming? I feel like a dumais for asking but I not sure I ever saw it actually spelled out in my 4 years here. AGW: Anthroprogenic Global Warning I believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 33 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: yeah...again, the "PRE" snow is really the lead clipper system dying a slow death while the more important amplitude catches up ... ultimately fusing that into the latter. I almost hunch that the lead will either A become dominant and it's all been a red-herring (unlikely), or B ...just become less and less in lieu of the synoptics beginning to reel from the influence/momentum of the bigger forcing. Or ...the third C option which is unthinkably naughty and immoral, ...which is that it snows light to moderate from it, none stop, in a 20 hour orgasm of weird emotional codependent obsession with snow-climate behavior before ultimately ... O.D. 'ing on the main event. That's personally what I'm buckin' for ha! If Churchill spoke Weenie, he couldn't have put it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 gosh forbid we should ever have a snow storm at 32 F ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: gosh forbid we should ever have a snow storm at 32 F ... 2/5/16 was a pretty good paste bomb near or just below 32F...only turned a little powdery once you got into the hills where it was more like 29F. I feel like El Ninos are better for those blue bombs...usually have that very lax geopotential gradient in the southeast, so you can get those isothermal airmasses where its like 0C at 850 in Raleigh, NC and -3C in Boston and only -5C in Caribou ME. Then a southern streamer vort rolls up the east side of a trough with that baggy geopotential gradient and the moisture is not really frontogenetical in nature...just kind of a subtropical stream of moisture coming up and into that marginal airmass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: 2/5/16 was a pretty good paste bomb near or just below 32F...only turned a little powdery once you got into the hills where it was more like 29F. I feel like El Ninos are better for those blue bombs...usually have that very lax geopotential gradient in the southeast, so you can get those isothermal airmasses where its like 0C at 850 in Raleigh, NC and -3C in Boston and only -5C in Caribou ME. Then a southern streamer vort rolls up the east side of a trough with that baggy geopotential gradient and the moisture is not really frontogenetical in nature...just kind of a subtropical stream of moisture coming up and into that marginal airmass. yeah that was 1977-1978 incarnate ... not sure about the Feb 5-7 one, but the two events earlier in January were these amorphous blobs of huge pwat ... I think one of them was supposed to be cold rain and sleet and it ended up with white outs from NW of NYC to Logan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: gosh forbid we should ever have a snow storm at 32 F ... Yea, I miss those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yea, I miss those. I live in the world of 32-34F snowstorms. Don't get too many cold arctic storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I will say we have had some nice ones here. 2/5/16 was sweet, but even that storm back on Dec 8 was a paste job here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Just now, Baroclinic Zone said: I live in the world of 32-34F snowstorms. Don't get too many cold arctic storms. Needs to really thread the needle to get one here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: Needs to really thread the needle to get one here. You wet, we rain. Even then it's tough. There was that one event in Feb '14 where it was rain here and 25F snow there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Haven’t had a paste bomb since 2011 Oct. Even that finished with 2 inches of powder . Need one badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Check out DTs facebook...EPS screaming NE snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, CoastalWx said: While solution is possible, I’m not sure it’s gonna try to pull mini 1888. I'll take a look when the EPS sensitivity updates (still on 00z) but so far the variance signal is pretty incoherent (no dipoles or monopoles showing up). The 12z EPS is definitely a strong MSLP signal, so maybe the sensitivity can tease something out. 1 hour ago, Hoth said: Didn't Feb '13 have something like that? 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah it did....the best of it was over Maine near PWM....they got a ton of OES and LL convergence enhancement before the main storm moved in. I think they had something like 12-15" before the main show arrived. Like 10" of OES fluff ahead of that storm. Turned a big 24" blizzard into a record breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Tired of powder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: Tired of powder Ditto.. its tough away from the coast at this latitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: Tired of powder This will prob be powder again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnaude241 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Tired of powder We had about 2 inches of cement from the last storm down here. I'll trade you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 12/29/16 last winter was a nice paste bomb in ORH county...was on winter hill for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 when do we think we get more confident ? 0Z monday runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Smaller events but our 6 inches 12/9 had meat as did 12/25. Last week’s blizzard had something like 12:1 so it wasn’t total powder. For the big numbers (>20) you almost have to have powder given the qpf requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: This will prob be powder again. Hopefully not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Any snow is good snow. We have had some cold systems. I live 2 miles from the ocean and have had maybe 2 wet snow events since and including 2016. Before that, I can't even recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: Any snow is good snow. We have had some cold systems. I live 2 miles from the ocean and have had maybe 2 wet snow events since and including 2016. Before that, I can't even recall. If you wet we dry . We need wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Any snow is good snow. We have had some cold systems. I live 2 miles from the ocean and have had maybe 2 wet snow events since and including 2016. Before that, I can't even recall. Scott, I hope you drive by the Ocean everyday, your lucky ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, CoastalWx said: The whole east assumption is so 2015 lol. I think the west tug has worked out well, even if the last one didn’t quite get up to you. I'm just saying, how many times has a Miller B with that evolution happened and dumped on me more than Dryslot... not impossible I guess but I'll sell too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: If you wet we dry . We need wet I'm sorry you have trouble making it wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, 512high said: Scott, I hope you drive by the Ocean everyday, your lucky ! It is nice, but don't enjoy it as much as I should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, powderfreak said: I'm just saying, how many times has a Miller B with that evolution happened and dumped on me more than Dryslot... not impossible I guess but I'll sell too. No that is an odd solution, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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