jaxjagman Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, nrgjeff said: Marginal. Saturday. That's a go! Of course it's garbage weak moisture return and all. However a surface trough and backed winds tracks through (during the daytime - what a novel idea!) Tenn. Could be low top, low probability, but decent visibility. So much for the latter on Thursday, lol! If the 12Z guidance is the same to more robust, Saturday might be a chase day. Um, urr, I mean, go to one of those State Parks that are opening. I was thinking about going also but man those parks are gonna be packed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 SPC Day 2 even mentions the Cumberland Plateau. Elevation puts it closer to the LLJ. So, I guess the Cumberland Trail is open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, nrgjeff said: SPC Day 2 even mentions the Cumberland Plateau. Elevation puts it closer to the LLJ. So, I guess the Cumberland Trail is open? Yes,starting today The Cumberland Trail opens from 7AM until sunset 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 If the NAM is right but could very well be over doing things there would some strong storms in the mid morning in Mid Tn as the LLJ kicks in,then spreads eastward,seems tho there could be some early junk,looks messy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 The Euro and GEFS are far apart in the upcoming days with the MJO.Believe ,possible what the GEFS sees is a Kelvin upcoming so it has destructive interference.Models keep showing this other than timing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 If we had some return flow, Saturday afternoon would be interesting. Will still have to be watched if we get plenty of sunshine throughout the day. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Think this might be the villain tomorrow,but we'll see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 You want that to clear out or fall apart,especially east of I-65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 More than i thought..lol Day 1 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1237 AM CDT Sat Apr 25 2020 Valid 251200Z - 261200Z ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AND SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS... ...SUMMARY... Scattered, strong to severe thunderstorms are expected to develop this afternoon across portions of the Tennessee Valley into the southern Appalachians. A few strong storms may also develop across south Florida. ...TN Valley/Southern Appalachians... Sharp mid-level speed max is forecast to eject across AR into northern AL by 26/00z. This feature is associated with a pronounced short-wave trough that should encourage strong-severe convection across the TN Valley during the afternoon. Latest model guidance continues to suggest a strongly diffluent high-level flow regime will develop across the TN Valley ahead of the short wave and a weak surface low is expected to track from the Boot Heel of MO toward central KY during the afternoon. Very cold mid-level temperatures will spread east, along/north of the cyclonic jet such that steep lapse rates will be common, especially as some boundary-layer warming is anticipated immediately ahead of the Pacific front. While moisture is seasonally low across the Gulf States into the TN Valley, 50s surface dew points should yield modest SBCAPE north of the jet where 500mb temperatures are forecast to be as cool as -18C at peak heating. Forecast soundings suggest surface parcels will reach convective temperature by 17-18z and isolated thunderstorms should initiate within exit region of aforementioned jet. Shear profiles favor supercells and hail may be the greatest threat with this activity; although, low-level shear appears adequate for some tornado potential. Robust convection should spread toward the southern Appalachians by evening where it will encounter a wedge front anchored east of the mountains. Some erosion of the cool boundary layer will be noted across SC into extreme western NC. For this reason have adjusted severe probabilities to account for destabilization in this region. Otherwise, air mass will struggle to recover across the southern Middle Atlantic during the overnight hours. Even so, sustained warm advection does warrant some threat for a few strong storms late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 hours ago, PowellVolz said: If we had some return flow, Saturday afternoon would be interesting. Will still have to be watched if we get plenty of sunshine throughout the day. . This is what i was looking at as well.It's hard to find even PW's even getting to 1.1" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 possible sleeper event TN/KY today , lots of spin near stacked low and cold 500mb temps 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 12z new HRRR4 or whatever it is now is throwing some sort (I say that because it has a little black swath overhead) of severe storm right over my head at 23 - 0z this evening. Also popping some CAPE and decent (300 -occasionally 400) helicity values in my neck of the woods. 14z old HRRR looks similar. Not sure it will make a difference, but glad there's a ton of sunshine in sight right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Sorry the above should say glad there's **NOT** a ton of sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1126 AM CDT SAT APR 25 2020 VALID 251630Z - 261200Z ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON INTO EARLY TONIGHT FROM EASTERN TN/SOUTHEASTERN KY INTO WESTERN NC... ..SUMMARY ISOLATED SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE TENNESSEE VALLEY INTO THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS. A FEW STRONG STORMS MAY ALSO OCCUR ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA. ..TN/KY TODAY TO NC THROUGH TONIGHT A MIDLEVEL TROUGH AND SURFACE CYCLONE OVER SOUTHEAST MO THIS MORNING WILL PROGRESS EAST-NORTHEASTWARD NEAR THE OH RIVER TODAY, AND REACH THE APPALACHIANS OVERNIGHT. RESIDUAL BOUNDARY-LAYER DEWPOINTS OF 56-60 F WILL SPREAD NORTHWARD INTO TN/KY IN ADVANCE OF THE SURFACE CYCLONE. SURFACE HEATING WILL BE SOMEWHAT MUTED BY LINGERING CLOUDS, BUT GRADUAL BREAKS FROM WEST TO EAST WILL CONTRIBUTE TO MLCAPE NEAR 500 J/KG BY MID-LATE AFTERNOON IMMEDIATELY IN ADVANCE OF THE MIDLEVEL TROUGH/SURFACE CYCLONE. THOUGH BUOYANCY WILL BE RATHER MODEST, DEEP-LAYER SHEAR AND LOW-LEVEL HODOGRAPH CURVATURE WILL FAVOR SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING AT LEAST ISOLATED LARGE HAIL/DAMAGING WINDS, AND A COUPLE OF TORNADOES, DEPENDING ON THE DEGREE OF DESTABILIZATION. STORMS THAT MATURE THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING ACROSS EASTERN TN COULD PERSIST INTO WESTERN NC BEFORE WEAKENING EARLY TONIGHT. FARTHER EAST AND OVERNIGHT, SECONDARY CYCLOGENESIS IS EXPECTED ALONG A SURFACE WARM FRONT LIKELY TO BE NEAR THE NC/VA BORDER BY 12Z, AND AS AN UPSTREAM SPEED MAX OVER THE PLAINS ROTATES THROUGH THE BASE OF THE TROUGH APPROACHING THE APPALACHIANS. GRADUAL AIR MASS MODIFICATION IS EXPECTED OFF THE SOUTHEAST ATLANTIC COAST IN THE WAKE OF THE PRIOR FRONTAL INTRUSION ACROSS FL. AS THE LOW LEVELS WARM/MOISTEN ACROSS THE COASTAL PLAIN TONIGHT, WIND PROFILES WILL BE FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS. HOWEVER, UNCERTAINTY CENTERS ON FORCING FOR ASCENT AND STORM COVERAGE WHERE LOW-LEVEL DESTABILIZATION IS MOST PROBABLE (CLOSER TO THE COAST), SO WILL MAINTAIN LOW TORNADO/DAMAGING WIND PROBABILITIES FOR THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD ACROSS EASTERN NC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Like the setup for tornadoes today across the region given CAMs support for low topped supercells and the clearing going on across the Valley. Lots of sunshine in Pigeon Forge currently. I wish I was going out but probably am not, good luck to anyone that does go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runman292 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Here’s the latest graphic from MRX: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runman292 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 In a span of 30-45 minutes, it’s gone from cloudy to mostly sunny in South Knoxville. There’s not a lot of clouds now. I have a bad feeling about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I agree with MRX above. Was that on NWS MRX page at one point? I saw it elsewhere. Meanwhile a triple point has pushed from Miss/Bama into southern Middle Tenn. Should continue over the Upper Plateau into northeast Tenn. Don't let the chart scare though. Still agree with only MRGL/SLIGHT risk thanks to pitiful dewpoints. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runman292 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, nrgjeff said: I agree with MRX above. Was that on NWS MRX page at one point? I saw it elsewhere. Meanwhile a triple point has pushed from Miss/Bama into southern Middle Tenn. Should continue over the Upper Plateau into northeast Tenn. I found the graphic on their Facebook page. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runman292 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, nrgjeff said: I agree with MRX above. Was that on NWS MRX page at one point? I saw it elsewhere. Meanwhile a triple point has pushed from Miss/Bama into southern Middle Tenn. Should continue over the Upper Plateau into northeast Tenn. Don't let the chart scare though. Still agree with only MRGL/SLIGHT risk due to pitiful dewpoints. Also, just out of curiosity, what is the significance of a triple point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOLtage Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Concerning...Severe potential...Watch possible Valid 251932Z - 252100Z Probability of Watch Issuance...40 percent SUMMARY...Convection is expected to gradually intensify this afternoon. A few low-topped supercells could develop and pose a hail/tornado risk. Convective trends will be monitored over the next 1-2 hours. DISCUSSION...Water-vapor imagery shows a mid-level low slowly migrating eastward near the OH/MS River confluence. Visible satellite imagery shows low clouds eroding across southern portions of middle and eastern TN in wake of earlier showers. Surface temperatures have warmed into the middle to upper 60s F near Chattanooga in response to stronger surface heating. Surface dewpoints remain relatively marginal and range in the lower to middle 50s F. A couple of weak convective bands are forming across middle TN. It remains uncertain whether developing updrafts will become surface-based and intensify into organized/sustained storms. However, model guidance indicates sufficient buoyancy may develop over the next few hours for at least an isolated risk for strong to severe thunderstorms. If a few stronger updrafts manage to develop, forecast hodographs favor storm organization, including the possibility for a few of these updrafts to acquire supercell characteristics. Therefore it appears an increasing risk for strong-storm activity will materialize at least on an isolated basis later this afternoon. Hail and possibly a tornado may accompany the stronger storms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Have our first severe warned storm with up to 1” hail working into Etowah and up the southern portions of the Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Closeup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Etowah storm report of 1.75” hail (golf ball). If in the path northeast of there I would certainly cover vehicles if possible. Appears Tellico Plains will get squeezed in between the 2 cells. Also a warned storm on the plateau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Stroms just dont have the umph when they show rotation,the best cell seems to be the cell possibly headed towards Rocky Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED TORNADO WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NASHVILLE TN 446 PM CDT SAT APR 25 2020 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NASHVILLE HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... CENTRAL SMITH COUNTY IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE... EAST CENTRAL WILSON COUNTY IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE... * UNTIL 515 PM CDT. * AT 446 PM CDT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR WATERTOWN, OR 11 MILES SOUTHWEST OF CARTHAGE, MOVING EAST AT 35 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 That plateau one is about to hammer me. Looks like it was bowing out a bit the last few NEXRAD frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Tornado warned storm east of Lebanon/Nashville is moving along I-40 with possibly a couplet developing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 TDS edit: to add update 51 PM CDT SAT APR 25 2020 ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 515 PM CDT FOR CENTRAL SMITH COUNTY... AT 450 PM CDT, A CONFIRMED TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR I-40 NORTHEAST OF WATERTOWN, OR 8 MILES SOUTHWEST OF CARTHAGE, MOVING EAST AT 35 MPH. HAZARD...DAMAGING TORNADO AND QUARTER SIZE HAIL. SOURCE...RADAR CONFIRMED TORNADO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 TDS edit: to add update51 PM CDT SAT APR 25 2020 ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 515 PM CDT FOR CENTRAL SMITH COUNTY... AT 450 PM CDT, A CONFIRMED TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR I-40 NORTHEAST OF WATERTOWN, OR 8 MILES SOUTHWEST OF CARTHAGE, MOVING EAST AT 35 MPH. HAZARD...DAMAGING TORNADO AND QUARTER SIZE HAIL. SOURCE...RADAR CONFIRMED TORNADO. Just crossed I-40 minutes ago. An area that certainly doesn’t need another tornado this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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