tarheelwx Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 If that light precip in N.C. Monday afternoon on the 12z GFS comes to fruition, then there will likely be major traffic issues to deal with. Frozen ground and light precip will make things difficult to say the least. TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red1976Red Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Hopefully temps will be in the mid 40s and increasing before any drizzle late Monday. I can’t believe we go to the 60s as early as Tuesday. Monday night is going to be a torch, 30+ degrees warmer for some areas compared to recent. I do see the concern because of frozen surfaces, briefly. I think the setup for fog across many areas may be of greater interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheelwx Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 We get fog 50 times a year (or more). Freezing rain on roads with temps above freezing........ I remember it happening in Asheville area one time, but I don’t ever remember it here in central N.C. TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheelwx Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Euro is faster and wetter at 12z. TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SN_Lover Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 6:19 PM, tarheelwx said: Euro is faster and wetter at 12z. TW Expand And more surpressed. This storm is a goner and has no model support anymore. Why make a thread for a possible light icing to rain event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 6:30 PM, SN_Lover said: And more surpressed. This storm is a goner and has no model support anymore. Why make a thread for a possible light icing to rain event? Expand This run had more ice over WNC than the past 4 runs of euro combined. Check the maps before you post something that’s not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SN_Lover Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 6:37 PM, Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said: This run had more ice over WNC than the past 4 runs of euro combined. Check the maps before you post something that’s not true Expand Which run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 6:46 PM, SN_Lover said: Which run? Expand 12Z Euro and GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SN_Lover Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 6:47 PM, Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said: 12Z Euro and GFS Expand Really don't see it..... Maybe i'm blind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 6:48 PM, SN_Lover said: Really don't see it..... Maybe i'm blind? Expand Hour 60 on Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upstate Tiger Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Very surprised to see NC DOT on Hwy 150 this afternoon treating the road between Lincolnton and Cherryville. However, light freezing rain events wreak more havoc on the roads than heavy events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 6:30 PM, SN_Lover said: And more surpressed. This storm is a goner and has no model support anymore. Why make a thread for a possible light icing to rain event? Expand This is still very much a possible threat for ATL and others. As others have said the potential is here for a big mess on roadways. Light icing events can be just awful on roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemsonlady Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 They are treating roads already in upstate SC....must have a surplus of salt and brine and see no future for us this winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonhowl Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 8:34 PM, Upstate Tiger said: Very surprised to see NC DOT on Hwy 150 this afternoon treating the road between Lincolnton and Cherryville. However, light freezing rain events wreak more havoc on the roads than heavy events. Expand The very light event last Sunday in this neck of the woods certainly created numerous accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 9:52 PM, Moonhowl said: The very light event last Sunday in this neck of the woods certainly created numerous accidents. Expand Absolutely horrendous conditions! Also the ground will be frozen so that has to factor in a bit. This has been a very impressive long cold snap for most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Light freezing rain that sticks on the road is just as slick as heavy freezing rain that sticks on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 10:56 PM, Cold Rain said: Light freezing rain that sticks on the road is just as slick as heavy freezing rain that sticks on the road. Expand Eh, what about latent heat released from heavy rain versus light? I think ice accretes better with a light continuous rain instead of a bunch at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upstate Tiger Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 11:17 PM, LithiaWx said: Eh, what about latent heat released from heavy rain versus light? I think ice accretes better with a light continuous rain instead of a bunch at once. Expand Yep. During the ice storms in 2004 and 2005 the heavy freezin rain brought down power lines and trees but I had no issues getting around on the roads. The roads were wet but not icy. However, I remember a very light freezing rain event in Dec of 2010 that wasn’t forecast and it caused all kinds of accidents. I remember pulling into the parking lot at work and doing a 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 3:58 PM, drfranklin said: at 48, the GFS looks stout; thereafter, things fall apart - convective losses? extreme dry air/low DP? Expand Probably both, the air is really dry. The models have not been as dry today as they were the last couple of days! Sometimes models show precip drying up a little too soon. There could be other things at play that can't be seen, like light drizzle from the SE/S southerly flow. Just a nowcasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 Timing is looking like late afternoon now, should have plenty of time to warm up and thaw ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAD_Wedge_NC Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 11:49 PM, mackerel_sky said: Timing is looking like late afternoon now, should have plenty of time to warm up and thaw ground. Expand I will take a lot to thaw the ground now. Soil is frozen pretty deep. However, the later we get, the less impacts we will have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 I know it won't take much, but NAM seems a good bit drier/ later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankin5150 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 9:19 PM, Clemsonlady said: They are treating roads already in upstate SC....must have a surplus of salt and brine and see no future for us this winter! Expand Same here in Belmont, NC (aka Gaston County). They have REALLY stepped up laying down the salt & brine today. The roads are totally treated. Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 00Z RGEM is making this a more significant event for N GA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 4:24 AM, SnowGoose69 said: 00Z RGEM is making this a more significant event for N GA Expand But this storm is a goner with no model support. Makes no sense to even have a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheelwx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 NAM has .04 zr for the triad late Monday with a high Monday of 30. Will be interesting - should all depend on if we get any precip. TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 4:36 AM, LithiaWx said: But this storm is a goner with no model support. Makes no sense to even have a thread. Expand I must have missed your green tag!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red1976Red Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 4:42 AM, tarheelwx said: NAM has .04 zr for the triad late Monday with a high Monday of 30. Will be interesting - should all depend on if we get any precip. TW Expand That seems way off. It will be warmer than 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SN_Lover Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 4:36 AM, LithiaWx said: But this storm is a goner with no model support. Makes no sense to even have a thread. Expand Before you celebrate, look at the temps in the RGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAD_Wedge_NC Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 4:53 AM, mackerel_sky said: I must have missed your green tag!??? Expand Don't feed the trolls. You're just wasting your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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