codfishsnowman Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 A friend of mine who lives in the Rockaways said she only had about six inches, I thought that area had a lot more?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, codfishsnowman said: A friend of mine who lives in the Rockaways said she only had about six inches, I thought that area had a lot more?? It was probably much more than that. I live 30 minutes east of there and had over a foot I'm pretty sure. I posted some pics a few pages back of my house and street as it was wrapping up. Obviously much more than 6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 As Deep Winter comes to a temporary end and we mild up, here are some pics from the Long Beach boardwalk late this afternoon. Wish I could've made it there in the heart of the storm but conditions were too ridiculous. This storm'll be in my top five. Didn't notice any ice in the water but there was definitely ice building up on jetties. Shockingly Reynolds Channel doesn't have much ice on it, but the smaller inlets are all iced up now. Ponds are completely frozen over and many have lots of snow on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 9:11 PM, jm1220 said: It was probably much more than that. I live 30 minutes east of there and had over a foot I'm pretty sure. I posted some pics a few pages back of my house and street as it was wrapping up. Obviously much more than 6". JFK undermeasured again didnt they- just like Feb 1978. We had 15" here and an all day white out and I was snowed in and had to climb out a window to get outside. From Sheepshead Bay east it was 12+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 10:07 AM, jm1220 said: Oceanside came in with 16” and Rockville Centre had 14”, so it gives me more confidence I had at least a foot. Roads around town are still awful. 15" the JFK total needs to be discarded as the garbage report that it is. I couldnt take any pics until the next day because there was nothing to take pics of except a white out that lasted all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 11:15 AM, jm1220 said: I just can’t believe that my area actually did as well or better than most. I was up all night slapping myself to wake up. LOL I would have paid to see that. But night wasn't the time to be up, it was most of the day that we had white out conditions that made it so awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 11:34 AM, purduewx80 said: could be inadequate measuring in this case, but it absolutely occurs in arctic air. the upper midwest and lakes regularly see clippers and lake effect events that produce 30:1+ ratios. I thought southern new england was in the low 30s and horrible ratios and the snow was much wetter there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 7:04 PM, bluewave said: I believe this was the heaviest snowstorm for portions of the Jersey Shore since Boxing Day. ACY....14.2 vs 18.5 on Boxing Day. 17" at Cape May and 20" at Point Pleasant Beach in NJ was the highest amount I heard about for this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 5:41 PM, purduewx80 said: Public Information Statement National Weather Service New York NY 955 AM EST Sat Jan 6 2018 ...Summary of Blizzard Conditions for the January 4, 2018 Winter Storm... The information in this statement is preliminary and subject to further review by the National Weather Service. A blizzard occurred on Thursday, January 4, 2018 over Long Island as well as portions of New York City, the Lower Hudson Valley and southern Connecticut. The official definition of a blizzard is: -Sustained winds or frequent gusts greater than or equal to 35 mph -Considerable falling and/or blowing snow -Visibility frequently reduced to less than 1/4 mile (see note below) -Occurs for three hours or more Note - for this analysis, automated surface observing system visibility reports equal to 1/4 mile were included due to the nature of the sensor. At Kennedy International Airport, Blizzard criteria were reported from 810 AM to 143 PM EST. At La Guardia Airport, Blizzard criteria were reported from 751 AM to 151 PM EST. At Long Island MacArthur Airport (Islip, NY), blizzard criteria were reported from 756 AM to 140 PM and 326 PM to 456 PM EST. At Republic Airport (Farmingdale, NY), blizzard criteria were reported from 806 AM to 331 PM EST. The present weather sensor failed, but snow was verified by radar. At Brookhaven Airport (Shirley, NY), blizzard criteria were reported from 856 AM to 1156 AM EST. The present weather sensor failed, but snow was verified by radar. At Francis S Gabreski Airport (Westhampton Beach, NY), blizzard criteria were reported from 848 AM to 353 PM EST. The present weather sensor failed, but snow was verified by radar. At Westchester County Airport (White Plains, NY), blizzard criteria were reported from 856 AM to 256 PM EST. At Igor I Sikorsky Memorial Airport (Bridgeport, CT), blizzard criteria were reported from 852 AM to 1232 PM EST. The present weather sensor failed, but snow was verified by radar. At Danbury Municipal Airport (Danbury, CT), blizzard criteria were reported from 1053 AM to 353 PM EST. The present weather sensor failed, but snow was verified by radar. At Groton-New London Airport (Groton, CT), blizzard criteria were reported from 826 AM to 256 PM EST. The present weather sensor failed, but snow was verified by radar. Elsewhere across the Tri-State, near-blizzard conditions occurred at Central Park, NY, Newark Liberty International Airport (Newark, NJ), Teterboro Airport (Teterboro, NJ), Tweed New Haven Airport (New Haven, CT), and Meriden Markham Municipal Airport (Meriden, CT). These locations failed to meet the length of time criteria for winds and/or visibilities. Wow, no wonder we had a day long white out. Did this storm set the record for the longest period of blizzard conditions at JFK and LGA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 6:39 AM, CPcantmeasuresnow said: It is clear to me that the turning point for this storm was when Rjay changed the title on the thread to Fish bomb or something similar I don't even remember the exact title now. Forget Grayson the idiotic name TWC gave this storm. If they are going to insist on the moronic practice of naming winter storms this one should be renamed Rjay. Winter storms should definitely be named but not names like that. Use the Greek alphabet and just append it with the year so you can reuse the name. The reason they should be named is you have something like Feb 2010 when you have 3 major storms in a month and get confused which storm is being talked about. Winter storms get named in Europe too- heck we even name fires LOL. So I see no reason why winter storms shouldn't be named here. You can use an impact scale like TWC uses and base naming off of how many people are covered under winter storm warnings or balance area vs population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 11:53 PM, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Just went past JFK on the LIRR. No way they had less then 10”. I know a spot with the absolutely most insane drifting. On jones island. It’s a combo of a huge open expanse and being on a barrier island. Easily 10’ drifts there after Boxing Day. I’ll grab and post pics tomorrow This is just like when Feb 1978 was undermeasured there at 14" LOL More like 22" and this one was around 15" all the reliable reports from our area cluster around that number. The JFK number should be thrown out, I would accept an incomplete over the bogus number they posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 9:15 PM, jm1220 said: As Deep Winter comes to a temporary end and we mild up, here are some pics from the Long Beach boardwalk late this afternoon. Wish I could've made it there in the heart of the storm but conditions were too ridiculous. This storm'll be in my top five. Didn't notice any ice in the water but there was definitely ice building up on jetties. Shockingly Reynolds Channel doesn't have much ice on it, but the smaller inlets are all iced up now. Ponds are completely frozen over and many have lots of snow on them. Nice, I used to live in the pink building Monroe Beach. Great spot to love for a weather enthusiast surfer!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Paragon said: JFK undermeasured again didnt they- just like Feb 1978. We had 15" here and an all day white out and I was snowed in and had to climb out a window to get outside. From Sheepshead Bay east it was 12+ JFK 2/6/1978: METAR KJFK 061400Z 04022KT 3/8SM SN -BLSN OVC/// M04/M06 A//// RMK SLP139 P0006 T10441061 METAR KJFK 061500Z 04021G26KT 3/8SM SN -BLSN OVC004 M04/M06 A2990 RMK SLP125 P0005 T10441056 METAR KJFK 061600Z 04023G30KT 1/4SM SN -BLSN OVC003 M04/M06 A2985 RMK SLP108 P0005 T10391056 METAR KJFK 061700Z 04024KT 1/8SM SN -BLSN OVC/// M04/M05 A//// RMK SLP068 P0010 T10391050 METAR KJFK 061800Z 04025G39KT 1/8SM SN -BLSN OVC002 M04/M05 A2966 RMK SLP044 P0012 T10391050 METAR KJFK 061900Z 03026G40KT 1/8SM SN -BLSN OVC002 M03/M04 A2956 RMK SLP010 P0014 T10331044 METAR KJFK 062000Z 03027G37KT 1/8SM SN -BLSN OVC002 M03/M04 A2953 RMK SLP000 P0008 T10331044 METAR KJFK 062100Z 03025G37KT 1/4SM -SN -BLSN OVC003 M03/M04 A2948 RMK SLP983 P0003 T10331044 METAR KJFK 062200Z 03026G34KT 1/4SM -SN -BLSN OVC003 M03/M04 A2945 RMK SLP973 P0005 T10281039 METAR KJFK 062300Z 03028KT 5/8SM -SN -BLSN OVC/// M03/M04 A//// RMK SLP963 P0004 T10331044 METAR KJFK 070000Z 03024G32KT 1/2SM -SN -BLSN OVC005 M04/M04 A2941 RMK SLP959 P0006 60016 T10391044 METAR KJFK 070100Z 02022G30KT 1/2SM -SN -BLSN OVC005 M04/M05 A2940 RMK SLP956 P0005 T10441050 METAR KJFK 070200Z 01026G34KT 1/2SM -SN -BLSN OVC005 M04/M06 A2932 RMK SLP929 P0002 T10441056 METAR KJFK 070300Z 01027G48KT 1/2SM -SN -BLSN OVC005 M04/M06 A2927 RMK SLP912 P0003 T10441056 METAR KJFK 070400Z 36023KT 3/8SM -SN -BLSN OVC/// M04/M06 A//// RMK SLP909 P0003 T10441056 METAR KJFK 070500Z 01020G31KT 3/8SM -SN -BLSN OVC004 M03/M04 A2925 RMK SLP905 P0002 T10331039 METAR KJFK 070600Z 02026KT 1/16SM SN -BLSN OVC/// M03/M03 A//// RMK SLP909 P0009 T10281033 METAR KJFK 070700Z 03022G35KT 1/16SM SN -BLSN OVC002 M03/M03 A2931 RMK SLP926 P0014 T10281028 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: JFK 2/6/1978: METAR KJFK 061400Z 04022KT 3/8SM SN -BLSN OVC/// M04/M06 A//// RMK SLP139 P0006 T10441061 METAR KJFK 061500Z 04021G26KT 3/8SM SN -BLSN OVC004 M04/M06 A2990 RMK SLP125 P0005 T10441056 METAR KJFK 061600Z 04023G30KT 1/4SM SN -BLSN OVC003 M04/M06 A2985 RMK SLP108 P0005 T10391056 METAR KJFK 061700Z 04024KT 1/8SM SN -BLSN OVC/// M04/M05 A//// RMK SLP068 P0010 T10391050 METAR KJFK 061800Z 04025G39KT 1/8SM SN -BLSN OVC002 M04/M05 A2966 RMK SLP044 P0012 T10391050 METAR KJFK 061900Z 03026G40KT 1/8SM SN -BLSN OVC002 M03/M04 A2956 RMK SLP010 P0014 T10331044 METAR KJFK 062000Z 03027G37KT 1/8SM SN -BLSN OVC002 M03/M04 A2953 RMK SLP000 P0008 T10331044 METAR KJFK 062100Z 03025G37KT 1/4SM -SN -BLSN OVC003 M03/M04 A2948 RMK SLP983 P0003 T10331044 METAR KJFK 062200Z 03026G34KT 1/4SM -SN -BLSN OVC003 M03/M04 A2945 RMK SLP973 P0005 T10281039 METAR KJFK 062300Z 03028KT 5/8SM -SN -BLSN OVC/// M03/M04 A//// RMK SLP963 P0004 T10331044 METAR KJFK 070000Z 03024G32KT 1/2SM -SN -BLSN OVC005 M04/M04 A2941 RMK SLP959 P0006 60016 T10391044 METAR KJFK 070100Z 02022G30KT 1/2SM -SN -BLSN OVC005 M04/M05 A2940 RMK SLP956 P0005 T10441050 METAR KJFK 070200Z 01026G34KT 1/2SM -SN -BLSN OVC005 M04/M06 A2932 RMK SLP929 P0002 T10441056 METAR KJFK 070300Z 01027G48KT 1/2SM -SN -BLSN OVC005 M04/M06 A2927 RMK SLP912 P0003 T10441056 METAR KJFK 070400Z 36023KT 3/8SM -SN -BLSN OVC/// M04/M06 A//// RMK SLP909 P0003 T10441056 METAR KJFK 070500Z 01020G31KT 3/8SM -SN -BLSN OVC004 M03/M04 A2925 RMK SLP905 P0002 T10331039 METAR KJFK 070600Z 02026KT 1/16SM SN -BLSN OVC/// M03/M03 A//// RMK SLP909 P0009 T10281033 METAR KJFK 070700Z 03022G35KT 1/16SM SN -BLSN OVC002 M03/M03 A2931 RMK SLP926 P0014 T10281028 Wow that's a lot of blizzard and near-blizzard conditions, Ed! In 2/78 they undermeasured to 14 when in fact we have reliable observers nearby who reported around 22; in this case they undermeasured to 8 when it was closer to 15. With regards to storm surge, (which this storm also had), I remember reading that 2/78 had a significant storm surge in our area (the Rockaways, for example.) Were the wind gusts around back then similar to this storm, Ed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paragon said: Wow that's a lot of blizzard and near-blizzard conditions, Ed! In 2/78 they undermeasured to 14 when in fact we have reliable observers nearby who reported around 22; in this case they undermeasured to 8 when it was closer to 15. With regards to storm surge, (which this storm also had), I remember reading that 2/78 had a significant storm surge in our area (the Rockaways, for example.) Were the wind gusts around the back then as with this storm, Ed? It’s possible that a lot of other totals were inflated due to snow blowing off roofs. That’s why I was hesitant to say I had more than a foot. It was really impossible to say because of all the drifts. But if you look back to some photos I took, one was a good 4-5 ft high on the side of my house, and driving around over the next few days, it doesn’t look like we had less than places like RVC or Oceanside.This was absolutely one of the most impressive storms I’ve been in. Walking north was almost impossible here at the worst of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, jm1220 said: It’s possible that a lot of other totals were inflated due to snow blowing off roofs. That’s why I was hesitant to say I had more than a foot. It was really impossible to say because of all the drifts. But if you look back to some photos I took, one was a good 4-5 ft high on the side of my house, and driving around over the next few days, it doesn’t look like we had less than places like RVC or Oceanside.This was absolutely one of the most impressive storms I’ve been in. Walking north was almost impossible here at the worst of it. How do you compare this to Boxing Day/Night, JM? Similar totals? It's just that was longer lasting- maybe just a few more inches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paragon said: How do you compare this to Boxing Day/Night, JM? Similar totals? It's just that was longer lasting- maybe just a few more inches? Boxing Day was definitely a few more inches plus where I am. I think we had close to 20” then, we were ripping like crazy early that night and then the snow band pushed west into N.J. Luckily this time the subsidence wasn’t as bad east of the band but that was a longer lasting storm for sure. I’d still rate Boxing Day better than this one, the winds were just as insane if not more then, and the higher amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 It’s times like these that I get peeved I missed the Jan 2016 monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, jm1220 said: Boxing Day was definitely a few more inches plus where I am. I think we had close to 20” then, we were ripping like crazy early that night and then the snow band pushed west into N.J. Luckily this time the subsidence wasn’t as bad east of the band but that was a longer lasting storm for sure. I’d still rate Boxing Day better than this one, the winds were just as insane if not more then, and the higher amounts. Yeah and I remember we had thundersnow with that one. One thing I can't figure out is this one was like 951 mb why weren't the winds stronger? Was the track too far to the east? But if it tracked closer wouldn't we have risked mixing with sleet? I guess we had a little wiggle room but no place on long island saw higher than 70 mph gusts, maybe even not that high- more like 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, jm1220 said: It’s times like these that I get peeved I missed the Jan 2016 monster. It was better measured because the winds were less but that was definitely king around our area. One of these days I'll post comparison pics of PD2 vs 1/2016 and you'll see how much more snow was there, I literally felt like I was in the Alps lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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