donsutherland1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Let's see whether the RGEM supports the 3 km or 12 km NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 weenified. Imagine kuchera would be obcene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherlogix Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 LOL! Most here will consider this run the gospel: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam4km/2018010300/042/snku_acc.us_ne.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, SnowGoose69 said: I wouldn’t use the 3K NAM this far out. If the RGEM continues going crazy the next couple of runs it may have something is there a reason why...what is the difference between the two, one is more reliable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 This is exactly why there is no solution yet. Difference between 12K and 3K is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 ok excuse my ignorance NOVICE here but what exactly is the difference between the 3K AND THE 12K is it just the amount or difference of data that is entered into it ? A little help here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Brasiluvsnow said: ok excuse my ignorance NOVICE here but what exactly is the difference between the 3K AND THE 12K is it just the amount or difference of data that is entered into it ? A little help here 3 km is higher resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, weatherlogix said: LOL! Most here will consider this run the gospel: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam4km/2018010300/042/snku_acc.us_ne.png Idk how .5 in Orange County translated to 6’’ Kuchera lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbear5 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said: ok excuse my ignorance NOVICE here but what exactly is the difference between the 3K AND THE 12K is it just the amount or difference of data that is entered into it ? A little help here many models outputs information on grids, the 12km grids are 12km^2 grid boxes, and 3km are 3^2. Lower numbers means more grids which means higher resolutions, though it's important to note that higher resolution doesn't necessarily mean better accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said: Gotcha. Went west south and north of us. East over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: 3 km is higher resolution. Don, does higher resolution mean more info or data downloaded , thats what I take it to mean ? Some might think higher resolution just means clearer pictures lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, weatherbear5 said: Each model outputs information on grids, the 12km grids are 12km^2 grid boxes, and 3km are 3^2. Lower numbers means more grids which means higher resolutions, though it's important to note that higher resolution doesn't necessarily mean better accuracy thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I mean seriously, it's going to be snowing in less than 36 hours and there is still so much uncertainty. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said: This is exactly why there is no solution yet. Difference between 12K and 3K is huge. The RGEM should help tell the tale soon. If it has a better outcome the NW bump may be onto something. If it’s lame like the 12k NAM, that’s what’s more believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 The orientation is less favorable. Its direction trend suggests weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, HeadInTheClouds said: I mean seriously, it's going to be snowing in less than 36 hours and there is still so much uncertainty. Crazy. Our subforum for the most part is on the NW edge of where banding might reach to. Small differences can make a big change in outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, jm1220 said: The RGEM should help tell the tale soon. If it has a better outcome the NW bump may be onto something. If it’s lame like the 12k NAM, that’s what’s more believable. silly question but when does RGEM run ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, jm1220 said: The RGEM should help tell the tale soon. If it has a better outcome the NW bump may be onto something. If it’s lame like the 12k NAM, that’s what’s more believable. No matter what the rest of the 00z suite says we still may not know until after 12z tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said: Don, does higher resolution mean more info or data downloaded , thats what I take it to mean ? Some might think higher resolution just means clearer pictures lol In general, higher-resolution (typically referencing spatial resolution) means there are a larger number of grids for analysis that cover a given area. That allows models to better analyze smaller features, including mesoscale features. Here's a general description concerning model resolution. https://scied.ucar.edu/longcontent/climate-modeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said: In general, higher-resolution (typically referencing spatial resolution) means there are a larger number of grids for analysis that cover a given area. That allows models to better analyze smaller features, including mesoscale features. Here's a general description concerning model resolution. https://scied.ucar.edu/longcontent/climate-modeling as usual TY Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F5TornadoF5 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 RGem looks similar to previous runs on black and white maps, waiting for color. Hard to pinpoint on these maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, F5TornadoF5 said: RGem looks similar to previous runs on black and white maps, waiting for color. Hard to pinpoint on these maps. It's further west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbaus Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 RGEM is further west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Snow88 said: It's further west Encouraging at this stage IMO. We need whatever we can get this far west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Snow88 said: It's further west further west as like the 3k or more like in-between 3k and 12k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, Brasiluvsnow said: further west as like the 3k or more like in-between 3k and 12k? Not finished yet but further west than regular nam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Zone of greatest vertical lifting goes from Cape Hatteras to Cape Cod in 12 hours, or 45mph. We are barely grazed by precipitation during this jolly jaunt. This is from the 12Z NAVGEM. I can not see any changes good or bad when a system is showing itself to be moving 40+mph on every run. It does not seem to want to argue with itself, it knows where it is going, and how to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, weatherlogix said: Yet the Mets in the NE forum state its east....hmmmm, who to trust..... Precip shield is west and we get more precip on the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F5TornadoF5 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 RGem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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