nj2va Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 14 hours ago, supernovasky said: I was and I think so. I’m not lying when I say zero radar returns. I checked too and my radar was working, but it was showing NOTHING. But there was more snow than I’ve seen since moving here. Same there happened last week when I was out at our house in McHenry. Radar showed nothing and it snowed for hours. Upslope coupled with distance from radar sites as Bob explained. Also NWS Pitt seems to underdo snowfall forecasts generally and/or forecast sunny conditions while its light snow. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Yeah I agree that the perception is different from the reality. That’s too bad because it enhances the already bad pain for some. All that aside, how are you and the family? Hope you all had a happy holiday. We gotta do another meet up. We had a great holiday thanks. Stephen is the perfect age to really get into it this year. I really needed the time off too things were crazy for me lately. Hope all is well with you too! Right now I'm fighting a nasty cold. About to get what I need at the store to make some chicken soup. Then just bunker in the rest of the weekend. Would love to do another get together. We have to set something up. Was so much fun last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 At Boordy for the afternoon to celebrate my sister turning 30. Quite toasty in their barn, live music, lots of wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinInTheSky Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Honestly learning about this upslope stuff is pretty cool. Never experienced that in my life. Seriously guys, was whiteout conditions and only one lane on 68 passable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I hate when we don't decouple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, mappy said: At Boordy for the afternoon to celebrate my sister turning 30. Quite toasty in their barn, live music, lots of wine. That is in my backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. August Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Interstate said: That is in my backyard. Well then you’re a terrible host! Get out there and mingle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, Interstate said: That is in my backyard. Good times are being had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 @psuhoffman I have seen that MD snow map lots over the years, and while overall it is pretty good, its also really wonky in some places. Places along the fall line between DC and Baltimore seem ok. Your area looks about right, but the valley around Frederick seems exaggerated on the low side. Also places near the bay look screwy, especially northern areas like Cecil and Harford counties..no way those areas average the same or even less snow than SBY. And I dont think SBY averages 13-14, probably closer to 10. Interior upper shore where I am is about right..18-19, although that 17" area extending down into Dorchester county is very suspect. I probably knew at one time, but what is the source of that map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Chilling a cocktail glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, mappy said: Good times are being had I saw your initial post too late in the afternoon or my gf and I would have crashed the party. She loves that place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Just opened one of my gifts in honor of the 12th and final day of Christmas. Troeg's Impending Descent. And it's really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, C.A.P.E. said: @psuhoffman I have seen that MD snow map lots over the years, and while overall it is pretty good, its also really wonky in some places. Places along the fall line between DC and Baltimore seem ok. Your area looks about right, but the valley around Frederick seems exaggerated on the low side. Also places near the bay look screwy, especially northern areas like Cecil and Harford counties..no way those areas average the same or even less snow than SBY. And I dont think SBY averages 13-14, probably closer to 10. Interior upper shore where I am is about right..18-19, although that 17" area extending down into Dorchester county is very suspect. I probably knew at one time, but what is the source of that map? You're right but it's the best one there is for our local area. I think it's 90% accurate. At one time it was posted on the nws lwx website and it's a similar style to the old school snow event maps they made in the 90s and early 2000s. Miss those. So they probably had something to do with it. But agree there are some local features that look wonky. Some reasons could be if they used coop data, I do a lot of research with coop sites and they have missing months and or days a lot. It's skews things. For instance if you just take the Westminster barracks coop it says something like 28" average. But the reason is they were missing quite a few snowstorms in the missing data during the period of record. When I did some local climo data research years ago I found of you fill in the missing snow using estimates from the closest coops with data for those dates it becomes closer to 35". They used the other Westminster coop and millers just east of me as the two sites on that map because the numbers match. But similar data issued to what I described could have found their way onto the map in other locations. Another thing to consider is if they used some locations without a long period of record then a few fluke events can really skew the number a couple inches in places with a low average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: You're right but it's the best one there is for our local area. I think it's 90% accurate. At one time it was posted on the nws lwx website and it's a similar style to the old school snow event maps they made in the 90s and early 2000s. Miss those. So they probably had something to do with it. But agree there are some local features that look wonky. Some reasons could be if they used coop data, I do a lot of research with coop sites and they have missing months and or days a lot. It's skews things. For instance if you just take the Westminster barracks coop it says something like 28" average. But the reason is they were missing quite a few snowstorms in the missing data during the period of record. When I did some local climo data research years ago I found of you fill in the missing snow using estimates from the closest coops with data for those dates it becomes closer to 35". They used the other Westminster coop and millers just east of me as the two sites on that map because the numbers match. But similar data issued to what I described could have found their way onto the map in other locations. Another thing to consider is if they used some locations without a long period of record then a few fluke events can really skew the number a couple inches in places with a low average. Bingo. The local one here had a BAD tendency to not report on the snowiest days. The result is the city sits in a 'circle' of 10-15" surrounded by the entire western side of state and eastern WV in 25-50" gradients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowershoresadness Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 So been dealing with a stress fracture in my lumber. Took and handful of muscles relaxers to shovel myself out. I couldn't feel my face for a few hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Lowershoresadness said: So been dealing with a stress fracture in my lumber. Took and handful of muscles relaxers to shovel myself out. I couldn't feel my face for a few hours Man, that sucks. You should've called Jeb. Take care of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowershoresadness Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, nw baltimore wx said: Man, that sucks. You should've called Jeb. Take care of yourself. Thanks bro. Living down here in the bury you don't expect snow like that. bad timing with a back injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, wxdude64 said: Bingo. The local one here had a BAD tendency to not report on the snowiest days. The result is the city sits in a 'circle' of 10-15" surrounded by the entire western side of state and eastern WV in 25-50" gradients. Figured that's what happened. The map is mostly accurate but those wonky locations...whoever was tasked with compiling the data probably just pulled the rawl numbers without noticing the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Lowershoresadness said: Thanks bro. Living down here in the bury you don't expect snow like that. bad timing with a back injury Back injuries rank up there as the worst. They can come out of no where and leave you feeling like your life is changed forever. Hope that you're feeling better soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Kansas City Yea...eating my soup and watching the game I tried to be a good sport towards Andy. I have no ill will towards him unlike many eagles fans. I met him a few times at training camp and once when he visited the fans waiting for tickets at the Vet. He seemed like a nice guy. But my god every time I watch him screw up Kansas City in the playoffs it reminds me of all the times he couldn't close the deal for some darn good Eagles teams. Can't blame him for all the losses. The road loss to the rams wasn't his fault. But he lost in the NFC championship game as the favorite 3 times. A few other divisional round duds. He seemed to just lock up in those big moments. Take a stupid risk when safe was the call. Go safe when he should have stayed agressuve. He just doesn't seem to have it in the pressure games. Shame he is one of the best regular season coaches in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, Lowershoresadness said: So been dealing with a stress fracture in my lumber. Took and handful of muscles relaxers to shovel myself out. I couldn't feel my face for a few hours That sucks. Hope you heal soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowershoresadness Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, psuhoffman said: That sucks. Hope you heal soon. thanks man. sneezing hurts, coughing hurts and getting off the toilet hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lowershoresadness said: thanks man. sneezing hurts, coughing hurts and getting off the toilet hurts. Not good, not good at all. As others have said, hope you recover quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowershoresadness Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, wxdude64 said: Not good, not good at all. As others have said, hope you recover quickly. thanks. you guys over there can have your snow back. my back can't deal with anymore down here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: Kids don't walk anymore unless its sunny, 72 degrees, and low humidity and even then they ask for a ride. Times have changed man Man, this is so true. And there are a ton of parents that wouldn't even consider letting their kids walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowershoresadness Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 hey reaper, can you reap just my back and switch it out with one of the other jabronies you've already reaped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 LOL, Remember, if you ain't first....you are last! Talladaga Nights just came on Comedy channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: He didn't want to take a jebwalk in this cold? I'd be heartbroken. Man, such an underrated movie. WHAT?!?!?! That actually happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Lowershoresadness said: thanks man. sneezing hurts, coughing hurts and getting off the toilet hurts. The last one concerns me. Be careful wiping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Man, that's total awesome-ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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