aldie 22 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, EastCoast NPZ said: it's times like this, as well as every-single day during the summer, I'm reminded that I turned down a job offer and the opportunity to live in Deep Creek 14 months ago. Sigh. Lol jobs in Deep Creek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 29 minutes ago, WVclimo said: 3-5" across Iowa today and into Illinois: http://www.weather.gov/source/crh/snowmap.html?sid=dmx I saw the Des Moines disco yesterday and they thought some mini banding could setup, problem is that without any kind of gulf moisture or much Atlantic influence we need to rely on the strength and timing of the wave. Clippers can be great but I have some doubts about this one towards the city but I hope I’m wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleocene Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 18z RGEM seems to align pretty well with the NAM, maybe a touch north, noise. Pumped for my dusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolz1 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 As @WVclimo pointed out in LWX's discussion on SLRs, they mentioned that things look to be capped at 17:1 due to the strong winds in the dgz. Is this what they are describing? IF so, is this due to the dendrites slamming into each other and therefore reducing the "fluff factor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 HRRR has been pretty good the past 3 or 4 runs. May need just a bit more than a broom if you're near Baltimore or points West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 NWS Pitt issued WWA for the mountains through Sunday AM: URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 353 PM EST Fri Dec 29 2017 MDZ001-PAZ074-076-WVZ510>514-300500- /O.NEW.KPBZ.WW.Y.0023.171230T0000Z-171231T1200Z/ Garrett-Westmoreland Ridges-Fayette Ridges- Ridges of Eastern Monongalia and Northwestern Preston-Preston- Eastern Preston-Western Tucker-Eastern Tucker- Including the cities of Mountain Lake Park, Oakland MD, Grantsville, Ligonier, Donegal, Champion, Ohiopyle, Coopers Rock, Kingwood, Bruceton Mills, Terra Alta, Rowlesburg, Hazelton, Parsons, Hendricks, Saint George, Davis, Thomas, and Canaan Valley 353 PM EST Fri Dec 29 2017 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 7 AM EST SUNDAY... * WHAT...Snow expected. Plan on difficult travel conditions. Total snow accumulations of 4 to 7 inches, with localized amounts up to 9 inches, are expected. * WHERE...Portions of southwest Pennsylvania, western Maryland and northern West Virginia. * WHEN...From 7 PM this evening to 7 AM EST Sunday. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Be prepared for reduced visibilities at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 34 minutes ago, EastCoast NPZ said: it's times like this, as well as every-single day during the summer, I'm reminded that I turned down a job offer and the opportunity to live in Deep Creek 14 months ago. Sigh. Unless your job is tied to tourism (lake or Wisp or rental homes) or general contracting I would think it’s hard to find jobs here. Last summer was our first summer having the house and I couldn’t believe how pleasant the temperatures were - upper 70s during the day and upper 50s at night. A few occasional days in the low 80s (lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I like that the moisture fetch stretches from the edge of Ohio to Iowa also what's that on its heels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, nj2va said: NWS forecast upped totals in the region especially in FDK county. Oddly lwx always does better at accounting for the northern MD souther PA ridges then CTP. For whatever reason they rarely even have any hint of them in their snow forecast and it leads to a lack of zones matching up along the mason dixon line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Oddly lwx always does better at accounting for the northern MD souther PA ridges then CTP. For whatever reason they rarely even have any hint of them in their snow forecast and it leads to a lack of zones matching up along the mason dixon line. That's the classic CTP vs everyone else. They are always slow to update and quick to cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 37 minutes ago, Cobalt said: HRRR has been pretty good the past 3 or 4 runs. May need just a bit more than a broom if you're near Baltimore or points West I think that’s loltastic but I’ll hug it because what the hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Oddly lwx always does better at accounting for the northern MD souther PA ridges then CTP. For whatever reason they rarely even have any hint of them in their snow forecast and it leads to a lack of zones matching up along the mason dixon line. Yeah, makes for an interesting snowfall map when looking at it combined like this. It seems like LWX is one of the best NWS offices in the mid atl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, WxUSAF said: I feel weirdly optimistic about this. Just think the dynamics and fluff factor will help us out. Probably I’m just weenieing out. Agree, but I think there will be a cutoff across our area and south of that won't be happy. But where the decent band sets up this will produce imo. Somewhere will get a 2-3" band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricanegiants Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Okay. Let’s get after it at this point (“getting after” this type of event that is)....24 hours out. Can somebody give me 1) the time of day tomorrow it starts 2) accumulation “basically” for the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Agree, but I think there will be a cutoff across our area and south of that won't be happy. But where the decent band sets up this will produce imo. Somewhere will get a 2-3" band. That cutoff seems prevalent on the Stafford county north border north of EZF. But who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hurricanegiants said: Okay. Let’s get after it at this point (“getting after” this type of event that is)....24 hours out. Can somebody give me 1) the time of day tomorrow it starts 2) accumulation “basically” for the area Well where are you located? Makes a big difference in this big subforum. 0-6 inches. 1 am to noon tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hurricanegiants said: Okay. Let’s get after it at this point (“getting after” this type of event that is)....24 hours out. Can somebody give me 1) the time of day tomorrow it starts 2) accumulation “basically” for the area Best guess starting time around 2-4 am west to east across the area. Ends around 8-9am. A dusting across the southern portion, coating to 1" north of Fredericksburg to DC. 1-3" across MD. My first last and only call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Agree, but I think there will be a cutoff across our area and south of that won't be happy. But where the decent band sets up this will produce imo. Somewhere will get a 2-3" band. Congrats in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricanegiants Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Fairfax/Sterling/Leesburg? I thought it was more of a noon-2 pm gig. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hurricanegiants said: Fairfax/Sterling/Leesburg? I thought it was more of a noon-2 pm gig. No? These things usually come in fast and leave fast. I'm thinking most of this is between 3-9am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hurricanegiants said: Fairfax/Sterling/Leesburg? I thought it was more of a noon-2 pm gig. No? Nope. PSU outlined it. 1-1.5 for the areas you mentioned. It's dry so expect radar hallucinations and banging your fist on the wall waiting for flakes. It's how we do things here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 He's been pretty spot on so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wawarriors4 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 47 minutes ago, BristowWx said: That cutoff seems prevalent on the Stafford county north border north of EZF. But who knows Yeah, have been noticing that. If I see 19 snowflakes here in southern Stafford, I’ll consider it a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, Cobalt said: He's been pretty spot on so far Looks good. I live just a sliver below that B line, but NOT in Baltimore city. eta: and I'm not criticizing the city, just clarifying for the geography impaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 At this point I'll hug every model, tweet, known and unknown met, experienced and inexperienced weather hobbiest, and even my dog if they give me the most snow. Anyone but JB (both of them). I still can't get behind JB's. Except the band The JB's. Can never turn down a funky good time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I'm doing my homework Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: At this point I'll hug every model, tweet, known and unknown met, experienced and inexperienced weather hobbiest, and even my dog if they give me the most snow. Anyone but JB (both of them). I still can't get behind JB's. Except the band The JB's. Can never turn down a funky good time. i had a coworker who followed him and he would get hyped over storms that clearly were in fantasyland. made me think some of his followers just like the "show" portion of it. i'm a realist. if i see a legit threat i'm in. if i think it's suspect i'll give pause and focus on what could go wrong. radar looks good for now as far as trajectory to this area goes, but also gotta take into account the latitude (or maybe not). with that said, PA is certainly in a wonderful spot for this, but i like our chances more than i did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 WWA's are up for the northern tier of counties. http://www.weather.gov/lwx/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDM Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 WWA just issued for NRN MD along either side of the M-D. An hour or two ago NWS expanded the WWA in IL, IN and OH - made it wider. Totals still 2-3" in the mid-West, and "up to 2" along the M-D. Sorry WVclima - didn't mean to shadow you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, psuhoffman said: Oddly lwx always does better at accounting for the northern MD souther PA ridges then CTP. For whatever reason they rarely even have any hint of them in their snow forecast and it leads to a lack of zones matching up along the mason dixon line. They do the same thing out here. They just seem to completely ignore the elevation out this way for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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