Wow Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvegas-wx Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Temps arent going to be an issue, yet they are the issue. Cold press is the real deal. Icemaggedon for SC folks right now. Looking for some NW trends by tomorrow or I'll look for that cliff as well. Let me know where you find your cold air shovel Frosty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Wow said: The Euro is showing some extreme cold for New years Eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 21 degrees next Sunday at 1PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, Queencitywx said: 21 degrees next Sunday at 1PM Yeah gets really cold and stays cold. That high means business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, Met1985 said: Yeah gets really cold and stays cold. That high means business. Dude, that’s some massive cold for y’all. I’d expect massive negative double digit wind chills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Queencitywx said: Dude, that’s some massive cold for y’all. I’d expect massive negative double digit wind chills. What does that mean for the other 2 " threats" they gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Queencitywx said: Dude, that’s some massive cold for y’all. I’d expect massive negative double digit wind chills. No kidding. Nasty and extreme. Probably a night with lows in the teens below zero with several single digit readings for several people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Dewpoints... Yowza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, mackerel_sky said: What does that mean for the other 2 " threats" they gone? According to the EURO op, yep. Not nary a raindrop or snowflake thru D10 after the first system. Trending cold and dry real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, mackerel_sky said: What does that mean for the other 2 " threats" they gone? it means its going to be cold if this solution happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Euro Ens Mean is a little south compared to its last run which was a little south as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeburgwx Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, griteater said: Euro Ens Mean is a little south compared to its last run which was a little south as well what is the new mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthWake33 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Can anyone post a QPF map from the euro or the ensembles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, burrel2 said: JMA turned out like I thought... Ensemble means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimen Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, Orangeburgwx said: what is the new mean? http://wx.graphics/models/ecmwf/2017122412/se/eps_acc_snow_se_132.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Wave pass on the JMA looks nice. More like the CMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, griteater said: Wave pass on the JMA looks nice. More like the CMC We have the DWD icon on our side, fwiw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 EPS has roughly 28 members with 0.5" or more qpf back to Raleigh, of those 18 or so are 1" or great, give or take. Of the 22 members that are under 0.5" they are relatively light. So 60% of the members are as good as the op or better and 40% are worse. Hopefully 0z that ticks up to 70/30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 Do we really want an amped up system though? Wouldn’t that mean more of a warm nose? I’d rather have weak and snowy/sleet then strong and ZR. Oh and here comes the NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, packbacker said: EPS has roughly 28 members with 0.5" or more qpf back to Raleigh, of those 18 or so are 1" or great, give or take. Of the 22 members that are under 0.5" they are relatively light. So 60% of the members are as good as the op or better and 40% are worse. Hopefully 0z that ticks up to 70/30. That's not bad at this range. But as you stated hopefully that trends better in coming runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, lilj4425 said: Do we really want an amped up system though? Wouldn’t that mean more of a warm nose? I’d rather have weak and snowy/sleet then strong and ZR. Oh and here comes the NAM. If the NAM trends drier, that's not gonna be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, lilj4425 said: Do we really want an amped up system though? Wouldn’t that mean more of a warm nose? I’d rather have weak and snowy/sleet then strong and ZR. 85 and points NW in NC/SC want it amped up to get precip back to them, people east of there like us want it to stay like it is. Usually we know how this ends but the models have been trending with lower and lower heights in the east. The Greenland block has been ticking SE the past few runs. It seems like forever now that we have seen a block maintain it's strength at this range, they almost always end up weaker inside day 4. This looks different though, not sure we will get that. If we did we would see the SER pop and the wave potentially strengthen, wouldn't take much. d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceagewhereartthou Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Wow said: For joy, yes. That's exactly where I want it. Lol at all the cliff jumping. I'll take my chances with that as 4 day look anytime. If it gets suppressed it gets suppressed, but that would be rare, 95% of the time it will come back a little NW. Maybe this is one of the 5% and the high truly continues to press but looking good me. And better than a major ice storm at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 RAH discussion: .LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... As of 315 PM EDT Sunday... ...Cold Arctic Air spreading into the SE US could bring a threat of Wintry Precip Events to central NC.... Pacific shortwave energy tracking east across the CONUS with the deep cyclonic flow associated with the reloading Arctic Vortex over Canada will help to bring reinforcing shots of arctic air along with multiple threats for wintry precipitation for central NC during the long term period. Models have been very inconsistent, offering poor run-to-run continuity with the magnitude/track with the embedded smaller scale shortwave features. And thus, confidence remains low in the forecast details. System #1 is expected to approach the area late Tuesday night-early Wednesday, with the potential to bring very brief and fleeting saturation aloft across the area. Given limited forcing and limited liquid equivalent, precipitation could fall briefly as a mixture of rain/snow with little to no impacts and/or accumulations. System #2, is forecast to be a more amplified shortwave trough, comprised of multiple shortwave disturbances, that will traverse the central CONUS during the mid week period and will move into the region late Thursday-Friday. With an Arctic high centered over eastern Canada and ridging south across the Eastern Seaboard, confidence is high that a low-level cold air source will be longed established. However, there is much uncertainty regarding just how far offshore/south the coastal low will develop, which has been the primary cause of the poor model continuity over the several days. If the low develops too far south/southeast, bulk of moisture/precip will be confined to eastern and southeastern portions of the state and quite possibly even south/southeast of the area in the more suppressed model solutions. The location/track of the coastal low will be our primary focus over the next several days and will play a prominent role in determining precip type and amounts. For now, it is just too early to get too caught up in forecast details. What all NC residents should know now, is that there is an increased/elevated risk for winter weather weather late Thursday through Friday night. The afternoon package will reflect a strong dose of NC climatology WRT to precip-type, which is also supportive by partial thicknesses which indicate predominately snow across the Piedmont and a wintry mix of snow-sleet and possibly some freezing rain across the Sandhills and Coastal Plain. Finally, the active cyclonic flow aloft could potentially bring system #3 into the area New Year`s Eve/New Year`s Day. With antecedent arctic airmass in place, frozen precip is possible. Temperatures through the period will be well below with highs struggling to climb into the 40s. Lows in the 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmNose Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Can we all just take a moment and be grateful we aren't wearing shorts and flip flops for Christmas like the models were saying we were going to be doing 5 days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, WarmNose said: Can we all just take a moment and be grateful we aren't wearing shorts and flip flops for Christmas like the models were saying we were going to be doing 5 days ago Amen! CMC is way too cold! Merry Christmas to all! May the models bring you good cheer tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmNose Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 18z nam looks like a whiff for eastern NC on the 27th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy1987 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, WarmNose said: 18z nam looks like a whiff for eastern NC on the 27th SW flow for the next s/w looks good coming out of Mexico for moisture influx on 18z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaryWx Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, WarmNose said: 18z nam looks like a whiff for eastern NC on the 27th Isn't that the first wave where it was preferred not to be strong so the 2nd would have more punch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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