STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 PF, is in spin mode. It sucks. Pure and simple. Pulling for back to back Rainer into Quebec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 EPO in absence of Atlantic blocking or decent ridging in rockies means cold and dry w a clipper and chance of over running or amped and wet. There are exceptions (mentioning for snow police). Perhaps this is off base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I can't believe all the progress of the past few weeks for the ski mountains is destroyed right when by vacation starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Albert A Clipper said: Not sure i agree whole heartedly about not caring a ton about the weather, people pay a ton of money to rent that week,...if conditions flat out suck, they'll complain a lot more about everything else...food, service...amenities etc. I don't go near my house during either holiday period (christmas/prez week), but i have many friends in the valley who work in the industry and say weather plays an important factor in "mood" regardless of whether or not they ski or snowboard. Oh yeah I get what you're saying... yeah I mean it certainly isn't the same vibe as if a Winter Storm Warning was out and it's dumping snow while in Ski Country. Thats the end goal when you go on ski vacations...the whole romantic vision of a snowstorm or currier and Ives falling in a classic New England village with white steeple churches and the whole nine yards. People are definitely more quick to anger, much like on this board haha. My thoughts of the ski industry from a business side is that the destination resorts and hotels have insulated themselves enough through getting money in advance that one rain storm on the 23rd won't make much difference. The rest of December is more important, IMO. If everyone knows it's been mild or rainy for the first three weeks of December, that's much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Look away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Look away Nah, the EPO calculated fro Snow88's basement is tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Remember when the EPS had us in the freezer for Xmas? It's been replaced with an historic torch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, qg_omega said: I can't believe all the progress of the past few weeks for the ski mountains is destroyed right when by vacation starts Got another week of sweet skiing to enjoy before the set-back... Euro looks pretty snowy for the mountains tomorrow through Wednesday. Bet we tack on at least another 6" by Thursday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Euro extra grinch mode now. Just rubbing it in. Deciding that there's no cold front after the 12/23 cutter. Just rebuild the ridge and go full on 50s and 60s for Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, qg_omega said: Remember when the EPS had us in the freezer for Xmas? It's been replaced with an historic torch Historic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Got another week of sweet skiing to enjoy before the set-back... Euro looks pretty snowy for the mountains tomorrow through Wednesday. Bet we tack on at least another 6" by Thursday morning. Like I said right when my vacation starts (after this week), it's very disappointing after all those model runs with the trough locked into the east for weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Historic? That could be record breaking if the front blasts through on Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Epic temp gradient. Just stupid cold in the Plains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kart Mozart Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Looks like I'll be pulling tics off the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Well cutter potential #1 seems inevitable. It's Christmas that is up for grabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Epic temp gradient. Just stupid cold in the Plains. Nice -30s 850 temps there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: Nice -30s 850 temps there. Absurd. And with a big pig high sitting on top of them..going to be some ridiculous numbers where there is snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Well cutter potential #1 seems inevitable. It's Christmas that is up for grabs. Too bad cutter #1 isn't cooperating a bit better. That has a classic sprawling Scooter high out ahead of it. 94-esque. We just see too much energy diving in behind the initial Rockies energy so the whole thing goes too tilted negative too early. Good example of snow88's EPO actually hurting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 We relive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: Too bad cutter #1 isn't cooperating a bit better. That has a classic sprawling Scooter high out ahead of it. 94-esque. We just see too much energy diving in behind the initial Rockies energy so the whole thing goes too tilted negative too early. Good example of snow88's EPO actually hurting. Boy no kidding. If you just showed me that surface depiction, I'd be happy as all heck. Classic HP. Only hope is to really stretch the energy out, but I think it just delays the inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, qg_omega said: Remember when the EPS had us in the freezer for Xmas? It's been replaced with an historic torch Can't be historic if we do it every Xmas now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I can certainly empathize with the panic, but this is a the kind of pattern that is hard for models isn't it? Seems to me there is still time for this to trend a little better for us, even if we still get a cutter. Maybe the sprawling high is stronger ahead of the system, maybe the low is less wound up and we get warm advection over cold air with a high anchored to the north. It is possible this won't be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, qg_omega said: Like I said right when my vacation starts (after this week), it's very disappointing after all those model runs with the trough locked into the east for weeks When looking out 11-15 days..nothing is ever locked in....no matter how good it may look...don’t fall for that. It’s been a good ten days around here, no denying that. But the locked in comments were way to premature imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, mahk_webstah said: I can certainly empathize with the panic, but this is a the kind of pattern that is hard for models isn't it? Seems to me there is still time for this to trend a little better for us, even if we still get a cutter. Maybe the sprawling high is stronger ahead of the system, maybe the low is less wound up and we get warm advection over cold air with a high anchored to the north. It is possible this won't be a disaster. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 No DIT posts, so you know it's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: Wait until it's in the 60s later this week. I'll remind him. He has been so obtuse this week...even for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I'm pretty close to white flagging December....we have a several day window after Christmas. This tun of events is precarious when viewed through my lens because I'm not optimistic for most of January and February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkO Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Sucks, but it is what it is. I just changed up my schedule to head up Wednesday-Saturday. Come back for the holiday and back up next Tuesday when it cools off. Who skis on Christmas Eve/Christmas anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Frustrating because the pattern has worked out for the most part, but haven't had much luck. The voodoo NAO has killed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, MarkO said: Sucks, but it is what it is. I just changed up my schedule to head up Wednesday-Saturday. Come back for the holiday and back up next Tuesday when it cools off. Who skis on Christmas Eve/Christmas anyway? People who don't celebrate Christmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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