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Winter model mehhem or mayhem nature will decide


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3 minutes ago, dryslot said:

12z Euro, Scrapes SNE and misses NNE, This is one of my visions for this next one if it doesn't dig far enough south.

IMO there's no way this comes anywhere close to NNE with this cold air mass and lack of anything to slow down the flow and bend it back.  I guess maybe where you are on the NNE coast it might be worth watching but I can't envision a scenario with continued push of brutal cold that would let this thing get anywhere near 90% of NNE if you discount maybe some arctic sand from the trough.

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3 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

IMO there's no way this comes anywhere close to NNE with this cold air mass and lack of anything to slow down the flow and bend it back.  I guess maybe where you are on the NNE coast it might be worth watching but I can't envision a scenario with continued push of brutal cold that would let this thing get anywhere near 90% of NNE.

I hear you, I'm not feeling it for this one, After this past weekend, I have plenty of work to do as far as removal still, So if it whiffs, Its not going to hurt my feelings, Its going to be balz cold to boot, I have to get at some potential damming issues on the roof.

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8 minutes ago, JC-CT said:

Wow, the story really is going to be about the ridiculous prolonged cold...

Definitely worth watching for you guys down there... I love Ginxy's spot in these brutal air-masses.  The ocean right there with cold pressing down.  Stuff happens when energy travels out under SNE in these set-ups.

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18 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Yeah... a step in the wrong direction on the euro.

The positive about this setup though is even modest amounts of liquid could produce some decent totals 

See this is what happens when you aren't worried about rain.  You begin to focus on the QPF and hoping for ratios, ;).

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5 minutes ago, weathafella said:

I think the fact that models are throwing snow so far west (excluding goofus) is a decent sign.  But everything is timing.  Get the wave in a data rich area maybe Thursday and we’ll get some more consistency one way or another.

The shortwave is pretty impressive...wouldn't be surprised to see it come back west. That front-leading shortwave though has been trending stronger which is something we do not want...and is probably at least partially responsible for the shift east today on the Euro. But it seems these shortwaves have been coming in more impressive every time they get into more data-rich areas, so hopefully that bodes well for the 12/30 system.

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2 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

eps mean is more progressive than the op. The trend has been going in the wrong direction past several days....hanging on by a thread now.

We saw this happened with the past storms. It should trend back west with the strong Atlantic ridge.

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Incredible to see 80% of the CONUS in deep cold. You would think with the largest cold anomalies being in the Plains that there would be at least some room for UL ridging over the eastern CONUS, particularly with a +NAO. 

I want to see our southern stream wave help set the table here...Can’t wait for the Atlantic...need our southern stream wave moving across the Rockies around hr 72 to flex its muscles and provide some downstream ridging earlier on...

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