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Winter model mehhem or mayhem nature will decide


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7 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Euro and EPS did not appear southern stream dominant and were underwhelming at 12z

It is not per se the handling of the southern stream shortwave, it is the handling of potential phase between the northern stream and the southern stream, the northern stream is the stream being mis handled right now, instead of swinging the disturbance in the south from NC to the NE or NNE up the coast, the northern stream isn't digging enough into the OH Valley to make the southern stream come up the coast, while in this case the southern stream is more so the Pacific Jet stream.  Not really a sub-tropical jet influence, which is why I think this storm comes up the coast, we have seen this season already in the first month with coastal storms coming closer than modeled in the last 36 hours, this system isn't even in the NAM range yet of 84 hours, we have plenty of time before we give this system no more chances

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3 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I said that if we finished the month with less than 12", which is a normal December here, then I'd be dissapointed considering the look.

13.5" and the whitest Christmas ever.

I'm content.

31.60" for December so far, If i don't see another flake this month, I'll have no complaints.

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1 minute ago, Go Kart Mozart said:

Euro on its own.  A few years ago I would have assumed all the other models will be playing catch-up.  Nowadays it seems we are just waiting for a euro cave.

Remember when the gfs was out to sea for yesterday? I’ll take the euro.

 

And it’s not a cave. When guidance is highly divided there is usually a compromise in that 3-4 day range. 

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So what I'd like to see from the GFS today is a continued suppression on the lead southern s/w.  That's what the trend has been over the last 3 runs.  It scoots well offshore ahead of the trailing northern stream diving out of Canada.  By doing all this it allows for the trailing wave to dig more and carve out a decent trough and develop our Miller B that the Euro shows.

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