Baroclinic Zone Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, WxBlue said: Coldest high: 12 Coldest low: 0 I know it’s NBD for y’all, but whew... that’s a cold stuff for me! Wow, this will be a shock for you than. I want to see some -15 to -20 lows here again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, powderfreak said: Come up here. And this is for the ASOS at 700ft. Forget the tips of the ski areas at 4000ft. The highest temperature at MVL for the 7-day period starting Wednesday is +2F. That's the warmest for an entire week. Fak that. I'll pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Pretty nasty up at 2200' at Diamond Pond this week too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, dendrite said: Pretty nasty up at 2200' at Diamond Pond this week too. High of -3F for 8 days, not bad. lol that's sickening though. This is going to be absurd in NNE. And with deep snowpack we are going to feel the full brunt. No modifying that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I suppose we could go cold and dry...but in 36 hours models could easily be back to where they were yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 I can understand Brett’s frustration. But the 5 you have is probably normal? It’s just SE MA has been lucky the past 10 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I know I'm exaggerating but I feel like when this type of cold comes in ,the majority of the time, storms either whiff south or we go from single digit highs to a cutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 EPS for end of week? 500mb mean looked flat from what I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Graupler Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hopefully the cold suppresses the system to the south and we skate. That's a thing that happens right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, weathafella said: I can understand Brett’s frustration. But the 5 you have is probably normal? It’s just SE MA has been lucky the past 10 years or so. I try to keep it in perspective... I average a little more than 40 per year... so I’m sure we may be on average or slightly below. My point is, after the pretty good look we’ve had for most of December and towards the new year... if we walk away with just that amount of snow.. it will be a disappointment. If we go into the freezer now and watch all these events get stomped South... that’ll suck. Nobody likes bitter cold and bare ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I said that if we finished the month with less than 12", which is a normal December here, then I'd be dissapointed considering the look. 13.5" and the whitest Christmas ever. I'm content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 34 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: I try to keep it in perspective... I average a little more than 40 per year... so I’m sure we may be on average or slightly below. My point is, after the pretty good look we’ve had for most of December and towards the new year... if we walk away with just that amount of snow.. it will be a disappointment. If we go into the freezer now and watch all these events get stomped South... that’ll suck. Nobody likes bitter cold and bare ground I factored in bad luck when thinking totals. That happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajisai Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Coldest high: 12 Coldest low: 0 I know it’s NBD for y’all, but whew... that’s a cold stuff for me!Same here, the coldest I've experienced was 4 as a low back on Valentines two years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I’m content. Sure it could be snowier, but I had a rare ice event and the first ever snow on Christmas morning that I can remember. Plenty of time to catch up in the snow dept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: I’m content. Sure it could be snowier, but I had a rare ice event and the first ever snow on Christmas morning that I can remember. Plenty of time to catch up in the snow dept. Catch up? On 12/25? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxBlue Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I have a really low bar for this winter. Even the worst snow year here is enough to make me happy. With that said, 16 days after first snow, I found myself few inches from breaking my PR for most snow in one winter. Also, while I don’t claim to be knowledgeable with the local climatology, I’m pretty sure 23” and counting with few days left is a d*** good December for my location. I’m satisfied. NNE kicked off the year with a good November. CNE had a great December. SNE with good January next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxBlue Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: Come up here. And this is for the ASOS at 700ft. Forget the tops of the ski areas at 4000ft. The highest temperature at MVL for the 7-day period starting Wednesday is +2F. That's the warmest for an entire week. Fak that. 1 hour ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Wow, this will be a shock for you than. I want to see some -15 to -20 lows here again. 14 minutes ago, ajisai said: 2 hours ago, WxBlue said: Coldest high: 12 Coldest low: 0 I know it’s NBD for y’all, but whew... that’s a cold stuff for me! Same here, the coldest I've experienced was 4 as a low back on Valentines two years back. Dang, PF. My dad grew up near Stowe and he’s full of winter stories about how cold and snowy his childhood was. But yes, this will be a shocking cold for me. I never thought I’d get used to 20s/30s feeling warm, but it’s starting to feel that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, WxBlue said: I have a really low bar for this winter. Even the worst snow year here is enough to make me happy. With that said, 16 days after first snow, I found myself few inches from breaking my PR for most snow in one winter. Also, while I don’t claim to be knowledgeable with the local climatology, I’m pretty sure 23” and counting with few days left is a d*** good December for my location. I’m satisfied. NNE kicked off the year with a good November. CNE had a great December. SNE with good January next? A good reminder that everything in life is relative. Hope everyone had a great holiday :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, WxBlue said: Coldest high: 12 Coldest low: 0 I know it’s NBD for y’all, but whew... that’s a cold stuff for me! its plenty cold for many of us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I know I'm exaggerating but I feel like when this type of cold comes in ,the majority of the time, storms either whiff south or we go from single digit highs to a cutter. once in awhile we get a clipper that will produce area wide but I agree with you...it really takes a special set of circumstances for a 1/96, 2/83, pd2 and just north of you for all 3 there wasn't much but the big snows made it to GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, JC-CT said: Catch up? On 12/25? 26 minutes ago, JC-CT said: Catch up? On 12/25? I mean it’s early. Plenty of time to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I know it's not pinned but don't forget to update your snow totals wkevin.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I said that if we finished the month with less than 12", which is a normal December here, than I'd be dissapointed considering the look. 13.5" and the whitest Christmas ever. I'm content. First time I can recall you being content with anything other than a KU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherexpert Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Merry Christmas everyone, santa really brought us a white Christmas this year. Classic snowstorm up in Waterville, great day for snowshoeing when the wind calms down. Cold week ahead but I think I will be heading to upstate NY in a couple days to enjoy the snow even more - either Tug Hill or Saranac. I hope everyone is able to go out away from the PC and enjoy the snow! It's nice checking the forum, but even better to get outside and enjoy it for ourselves. its going to be a very cold week ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 18z GEFS did no trend any worse which is a positive but they certainly don't shed any light on concrete storm potential. Here are the 12z and 18z GEFS valid for 06z on Dec 30th. You can see the 18z run has more spread than the 12z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: 18z GEFS did no trend any worse which is a positive but they certainly don't shed any light on concrete storm potential. Here are the 12z and 18z GEFS valid for 06z on Dec 30th. You can see the 18z run has more spread than the 12z run. 18z looks better to me... relatively speaking. I’m feeling this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherexpert Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, NorEastermass128 said: 18z looks better to me... relatively speaking. I’m feeling this one. I agree. 18z. Subtle differences can mean everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I don't buy the models, they are all leaning too heavily on the southern stream energy, I think it will come northward again as the H5 trough in the northern stream hangs back some to let the southern stream round the base of the trough and ahead of the northern stream energy. Just watch the trend is our friend in the short range. Plus even if we don't the direct storm potential Cape Cod will see Ocean Effect Snows all weekend, and with ratios around 20:1 that will add up quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, USCAPEWEATHERAF said: I don't buy the models, they are all leaning too heavily on the southern stream energy, I think it will come northward again as the H5 trough in the northern stream hangs back some to let the southern stream round the base of the trough and ahead of the northern stream energy. Just watch the trend is our friend in the short range. Plus even if we don't the direct storm potential Cape Cod will see Ocean Effect Snows all weekend, and with ratios around 20:1 that will add up quickly I actually agree with you. I don't expect this to be a southern stream dominant season. Maybe we don't get a blizzard, but we should at least get some n stream love going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 43 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I actually agree with you. I don't expect this to be a southern stream dominant season. Maybe we don't get a blizzard, but we should at least get some n stream love going. I agree, the La Nina season is notorious for little southern stream involvement, if anything I think this system can turn into a helluva snowstorm without the southern stream honestly. Looking at the H5 setup there is somewhat of a pseudo block over Greenland with the PNA rising into the positive +1 domain, I think models are not handling the northern stream well enough right now, once that arctic energy becomes available over sampling network then we will be keying in on a substantial storm threat. A digging northern stream shortwave is what we need right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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