Tatamy Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 1:41 PM, Brasiluvsnow said: Don I completely understand. I do not post often but I do my best to read and learn and ask questions of you guys that actually understand the science involved. Some of these people on TV do seem to understand the science while others were doing traffic broadcast yesterday and today they are doing the weather,lol. Thanks Don Expand It's fortunate that they have kept Nick Gregory on over there. I remember the live coverage he provided during the Brooklyn tornado a number of years ago. He did an outstanding job that afternoon and I doubt that there is anyone else on the air there in NYC that could have provided the level of expertise that he did that afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 1:41 PM, Brasiluvsnow said: Don I completely understand. I do not post often but I do my best to read and learn and ask questions of you guys that actually understand the science involved. Some of these people on TV do seem to understand the science while others were doing traffic broadcast yesterday and today they are doing the weather,lol. Thanks Don Expand Not a problem at all. I hope you enjoy the Board and participate often, even if just to share observations. Also, have a great holiday season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:07 PM, Tatamy said: It's fortunate that they have kept Nick Gregory on over there. I remember the live coverage he provided during the Brooklyn tornado a number of years ago. He did an outstanding job that afternoon and I doubt that there is anyone else on the air there in NYC that could have provided the level of expertise that he did that afternoon. Expand I agree. Nick Gregory is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:07 PM, donsutherland1 said: Not a problem at all. I hope you enjoy the Board and participate often, even if just to share observations. Also, have a great holiday season. Expand Don even though I don't post much I read it often and yes I enjoy it tremendously . TY and Happy Holiday to you and yours Edit here BTW I think Nick Gregory was / is very good I also think that MR G is very good and understands the science much better than the frauds lol ps I used to love Alan Casper as a kid because he was indeed a WEENIE and loved the snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Nam shows 1-3 for the area based off 10:1 ratios It might be a little more than 1-3 with the ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 12:10 PM, IrishRob17 said: There’s a difference between the maximum amount of snow allowed, per NYSDOTs policy, on the road versus when they start plowing. https://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/operating/oom/transportation-maintenance/repository/NYS_SI_Manual_Apr2006_RevJan2012.pdf Expand That must be what they are doing here. The last storm was a good test case. We had right around 2" and there was no plowing on my street. But when the sun came out, the snow melted. Thanks for the research, looks like they are doing the minimum possible work in spite of the > 12K in property taxes we are paying over here. Looks like the standards for secondary streets is even lower (3.5"?!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 12:30 PM, ForestHillWx said: Nice pink hue to the clouds this morning to my south and east. Red sky in morning... Expand That was one of the most beautiful sunrises we have had this year, although the colors didn't last for long. I was surprised we had such good radiational cooling with those clouds around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Seems 12z nam vs 06z NAM brings .1 more qpf over Long Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 1:27 PM, RU848789 said: Don - you're being kind. He's a friggin' moron when it comes to meteorology, as he regularly misspeaks about weather details; he should not be allowed to even report on the weather unless it's completely uneventful. And you're correct that he's not an actual meteorologist: "Mike holds a degree in Rhetoric and Communications, with an emphasis on atmospheric science, from U.C. Davis." Expand A degree in rhetoric? Isn't that equivalent to having a degree in telemarketing lol? Based on what you said it sounds like he should be working for some resort promoting their weather for vacationers. Anyway I can't stand FOX for their political bent, but the one great thing on there is Nick Gregory. He's worth way more than everyone else on there combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I have met Nick many times and brought him to my school many years ago for "career day". Really a very nice man . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:07 PM, Tatamy said: It's fortunate that they have kept Nick Gregory on over there. I remember the live coverage he provided during the Brooklyn tornado a number of years ago. He did an outstanding job that afternoon and I doubt that there is anyone else on the air there in NYC that could have provided the level of expertise that he did that afternoon. Expand On 12/15/2017 at 2:08 PM, donsutherland1 said: I agree. Nick Gregory is very good. Expand On 12/15/2017 at 2:09 PM, Brasiluvsnow said: Don even though I don't post much I read it often and yes I enjoy it tremendously . TY and Happy Holiday to you and yours Edit here BTW I think Nick Gregory was / is very good I also think that MR G is very good and understands the science much better than the frauds lol ps I used to love Alan Casper as a kid because he was indeed a WEENIE and loved the snow Expand On 12/15/2017 at 2:24 PM, Paragon said: A degree in rhetoric? Isn't that equivalent to having a degree in telemarketing lol? Anyway I can't stand FOX for their political bent, but the one great thing on there is Nick Gregory. He's worth way more than anyone else on there combined. Expand One more...Nick Gregory is awesome. The other "pretty boy" with little meteorological knowledge (and no degree) is Lonnie Quinn. On the other hand, Amy Freeze doesn't have a degree in meteorology, but she does seem to have a decent command of the science - maybe not at the level of Nick or Lee Goldberg/Jeff Smith (all of whom have meteorology degrees and it shows), but she doesn't embarrass herself, like Woods and Quinn do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Latest HRRR, looks about right. Expecting nothing more than some pixie dust up this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 You would not think snow is coming based off the radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:36 PM, NJwx85 said: Latest HRRR, looks about right. Expecting nothing more than some pixie dust up this way. Expand Would not be surprised if a bit more than that expanded out your way, last Saturday's storm went way more n and w then originally progged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:38 PM, Snow88 said: You would not think snow is coming based off the radar Expand The HRRR shows the radar sort of just exploding overhead around 21z, but it moves out very quickly. Think the snow is in and out in less than 4 hours except for Eastern LI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:41 PM, NJwx85 said: The HRRR shows the radar sort of just exploding overhead around 21z, but it moves out very quickly. Think the snow is in and out in less than 4 hours except for Eastern LI. Expand Quite possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:34 PM, RU848789 said: One more...Nick Gregory is awesome. The other "pretty boy" with little meteorological knowledge (and no degree) is Lonnie Quinn. On the other hand, Amy Freeze doesn't have a degree in meteorology, but she does seem to have a decent command of the science - maybe not at the level of Nick or Lee Goldberg/Jeff Smith (all of whom have meteorology degrees and it shows), but she doesn't embarrass herself, like Woods and Quinn do. Expand Funny/interesting thing about Jeff Smith, our own Will (ORHWXMAN) was actually his college roomie at Cornell. To add to your list above another of the ones who don't seem to have a good rep is Janice Huff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:39 PM, sferic said: Would not be surprised if a bit more than that expanded out your way, last Saturday's storm went way more n and w then originally progged. Expand Where is that "max 4.6" located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Radar has begun to light up in N VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:44 PM, Paragon said: Where is that "max 4.6" located? Expand Just off South shore of LI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I think most places West of the city will be lucky to crack 0.10" LE, unless you're South of Rt 78. Even with decent ratios that's a low ceiling. The best dynamics should only scrape the immediate coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveWinter Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:46 PM, sferic said: Just off South shore of LI Expand No I think its that blue shade in the top left quadrant of the image in Ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Limited sunshine, cold ground and below freezing air temps means whatever falls will cover everything unlike last Saturday. I think 1-3 makes sense across NYC across Long Island. 3 Events albeit small in a 6 day period in the first half of December is unusual. Even though it will snow for 4-6 hours it wont be wasted melting right away so enjoy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:52 PM, sferic said: Limited sunshine, cold ground and below freezing air temps means whatever falls will cover everything unlike last Saturday. I think 1-3 makes sense across NYC across Long Island. 3 Events albeit small in a 6 day period in the first half of December is unusual. Even though it will snow for 4-6 hours it wont be wasted melting right away so enjoy ! Expand It sounds a lot like the last event we just had. I still doubt this lasts only 6 hours for us, small gripe but it's probably more like 10 hours for the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:34 PM, RU848789 said: One more...Nick Gregory is awesome. The other "pretty boy" with little meteorological knowledge (and no degree) is Lonnie Quinn. On the other hand, Amy Freeze doesn't have a degree in meteorology, but she does seem to have a decent command of the science - maybe not at the level of Nick or Lee Goldberg/Jeff Smith (all of whom have meteorology degrees and it shows), but she doesn't embarrass herself, like Woods and Quinn do. Expand Lonnie Quinn gets knocked here understandably, but Ill give him credit for at least seeming to have some enthusiasm for weather in general. Some of the others on television give the impression that anything other than 80 and sunny is disdainful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 RGEM is slightly more northwest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 2:42 PM, Paragon said: Funny/interesting thing about Jeff Smith, our own Will (ORHWXMAN) was actually his college roomie at Cornell. To add to your list above another of the ones who don't seem to have a good rep is Janice Huff. Expand Now that's a tidbit on Jeff/Will! Agree on Huff, although she isl listed as having a met degree from FSU. Maybe she didn't keep up to date or something.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 3:04 PM, Snow88 said: RGEM is slightly more northwest Expand Can you post map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 3:04 PM, RU848789 said: Now that's a tidbit on Jeff/Will! Agree on Huff, although she isl listed as having a met degree from FSU. Maybe she didn't keep up to date or something.... Expand Yeah Will told me he still teases Jeff about it lol. Jeff was the youngest in their group of friends from what I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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