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December 2017 Mid-Long Range Disco 2


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7 hours ago, Bob Chill said:

Pretty big hit on the euro. Good round of snow before mix. Gold cad leading in but waa wins. Primary into wv. This is a wnwxluvr special solution. He loves these. 

Yep. These are the types events where we win with elevation. Although the upcoming setup is really good for the entire subforum. 

The 6Z GFS is showing the potential for a monster coastal right while the MJO is in phase 8. It makes sense in that regard at least.

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One thing to keep in the front of your mind about the late next week deal is there is no real Atl blocking. The runs that keep it under us either have a transient block or a timed 50/50 but nothing really shows a classic stable block. This greatly ups the risk of a mixed event (assuming we get precip). It would be wrong to set expectations as an easy all snow event. That's not what it looks like at all. All rain is still possible (and shows up on some ensembles) but with a good antecendent air mass it shouldn't be all rain unless it takes forever to get going. 

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1 hour ago, North Balti Zen said:

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12 minutes ago, Bob Chill said:

One thing to keep in the front of your mind about the late next week deal is there is no real Atl blocking. The runs that keep it under us either have a transient block or a timed 50/50 but nothing really shows a classic stable block. This greatly ups the risk of a mixed event (assuming we get precip). It would be wrong to set expectations as an easy all snow event. That's not what it looks like at all. All rain is still possible (and shows up on some ensembles) but with a good antecendent air mass it shouldn't be all rain unless it takes forever to get going. 

It's interesting that the Euro ens show all kinds of solutions.  The quicker the late nest week system gets here, the better the chances of frozen or a mix.  As you note the really slow moving ensemble runs have the low cut so far west that it would allow rain as they look to take forever to get hear.  My gut feeling is that the odds of an all snow event are quite a bit lower than a mix event but speculating this early is kind of blowing smoke. 

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7 hours ago, Bob Chill said:

Pretty big hit on the euro. Good round of snow before mix. Gold cad leading in but waa wins. Primary into wv. This is a wnwxluvr special solution. He loves these. 

Funny that somebody called this the Chill storm because in 2012 that's what we called another storm that was exactly what you just described.

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7 minutes ago, usedtobe said:

It's interesting that the Euro ens show all kinds of solutions.  The quicker the late nest week system gets here, the better the chances of frozen or a mix.  As you note the really slow moving ensemble runs have the low cut so far west that it would allow rain as they look to take forever to get hear.  My gut feeling is that the odds of an all snow event are quite a bit lower than a mix event but speculating this early is kind of blowing smoke. 

Yea, we're getting ahead of ourselves because ops are spitting out some monster solutions inside of 10 days. They are pretty and all but trusting anything other than the general idea is not the way to go. My guess is we get some sore of frozen event out of it. Ensembles are really cold after christmas and the MSLP panels show good hp position for CAD. All we can do is pass time right now and hopefully things make more sense in about 5 days. 

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Canadian has the after Christmas storm cutting east of Chicago. Yikes. Only good news is the Canadian has been horrendous in the long range this winter. 

 

Spoke too soon. East of Chicago but still a cutter not that it matters this far out 

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