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Dec 8/9 Obs and discussion (Showme's) Storm


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1 hour ago, Deck Pic said:

 


12/5/07 was a clipper that overperformed. Mainly because a huge fat yellow band developed to the west and swung through. It’s when we started using the term super band and death band. Ian called it an uber band, but it never caught on.


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"Death Band" is a banned term in some regions.  Too New England.

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54 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Did you want to be close to Burlington?  Wonderful town imo. 

I'll need to be close to an airport that flies most places and Burlington is the only town in VT that can meet that need.  Plus, Burlington (and the little town where my place is, Charlotte) is absolutely great.  I can see why it is usually ranked the happiest place in the US each year.  The people, atmosphere, vibe, natural splendor, etc... are just awesome.  I've been up there 35+ days this year and not once, not a single time has anyone asked me what I do for a living.  It's always, "what are you into" or a genuine "how ARE you?".  Manchester would have been the town for climatology while not needing to live in the mountains but I am super happy.

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Just got back from another long walk. What a nice scene out tonight. Legit winter and the holiday lights upped the appeal a few notches. 

The high ratio snow capping off all the evergreens and shrubs reminded me a little of my years in the Rockies. I'm a little sad the day is almost over....

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3 minutes ago, Bob Chill said:

Just got back from another long walk. What a nice scene out tonight. Legit winter and the holiday lights upped the appeal a few notches. 

The high ratio snow capping off all the evergreens and shrubs reminded me a little of my years in the Rockies. I'm a little sad the day is almost over....

The last part of the storm had some nice fluff factor for sure. Trees look gorgeous tonight.

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1 minute ago, PrinceFrederickWx said:

Where is the link to the spotter reports on LWX's page now? This link I have bookmarked doesn't seem to have anything for the storm: http://www.weather.gov/lwx/pnsmap?type=snow

try this

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=LWX&product=PNS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=0&highlight=off

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6 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Just a few more from earlier. It is amazing how something as simple as a long walk and snow can bring happiness. 

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I'm on a HIGH HIGH. I took a sweet jebwalk in the snow. I got to see big flakes fall past the streetlights. I was in the middle of a living snowglobe that was filled with snow! Snow gives you a whole new lease on life. I'm so high I'm cruising at 97,000 feet on an afterburner. I breathed in deep, breath after breath of cool refreshing snow laden air. I am so rejuvenated, I'm gonna live forever. We got over 2 inches of the glitteriest snow you ever saw in your life! It dazzled!

It's December 2013 all over again and all is right with the world! We are going to have lots of high latitude blocking and this is going to be one heck of a wonderful winter for the entire Mid Atlantic subforum. We're gonna be talking about this for the rest of our lives. :wub::D:thumbsup::sled::hug::snowing::snowman:

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Total of 2.9" for the storm here in McLean. Seems like a lot more because it is fluffier for sure. Couldn't get accurate measurements in the grass, and after getting a couple 3.5", 2.5" and a couple near 2.8-3", I went with 2.9". Seems most accurate. Next time I'll measure on a snow board though, since I'm guessing some of the snow was lost due to compaction. Still a great early

I still am glad I and multiple others never gave up on this storm, especially when things look bleak :lol:

On 12/4/2017 at 0:21 PM, Cobalt said:

I mean, the good news is that at least a couple individual members still show it. Still, not good. As I previously stated a couple days ago, I'm hoping the guidance is showing the SE bias that was prevalent during the Jan 2017 storm and a couple in the last few years. I'm not sure if that'll happen, since I can recall the same amount of events that trended SE as those that trended NW

 

Overall I'd say the best model here was the 3k NAM. Leading up to the storm on the 0z it showed the banding feature near and west of I-95. Of course we didn't get the original onset of snow that would've put all of us over 5" of snow, but it was accurate in showing where the banding was going to set up

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4 minutes ago, Cobalt said:

Total of 2.9" for the storm here in McLean. Seems like a lot more because it is fluffier for sure. Couldn't get accurate measurements in the grass, and after getting a couple 3.5", 2.5" and a couple near 2.8-3", I went with 2.9". Seems most accurate. Next time I'll measure on a snow board though, since I'm guessing some of the snow was lost due to compaction. Still a great early

I still am glad I and multiple others never gave up on this storm, especially when things look bleak :lol:

 

You were right, NEVER give up on the storm. This was the best storm to track, and in the end, that deathband was so fulfilling and rewarding. I did not get as much as you but totals dont matter. What matters is we all got to enjoy an early December snow!!!

This is only the beginning, We have only just begun.

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Just now, Jebman said:

You were right, NEVER give up on the storm. This was the best storm to track, and in the end, that deathband was so fulfilling and rewarding. I did not get as much as you but totals dont matter. What matters is we all got to enjoy an early December snow!!!

This is only the beginning, We have only just begun.

Completely true. In my lifetime, I have only been able to fully enjoy December snow once. That was today. Too young to enjoy the 2009 snow (barely remember), didn't care enough to enjoy the 2013 snow. This was truly special. 

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Some great pics in here. Sounds as if many in here met or even exceeded their expectations for the storm. Here's hoping that this is a sign of things to come this winter.

For those that were panicking yesterday morning? Storms quite often do their own thing irregardless of the time schedule and evolution that the models throw out there. So please learn to let it play out somewhat before you start crying FAIL and making everybody else's experiences on these boards miserable.

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8 hours ago, Cobalt said:

Completely true. In my lifetime, I have only been able to fully enjoy December snow once. That was today. Too young to enjoy the 2009 snow (barely remember), didn't care enough to enjoy the 2013 snow. This was truly special. 

Too young to enjoy 2009? So you're about 10-13 yrs old? 

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22 minutes ago, leesburg 04 said:

3.5" final total...wonderful start to the season. I was out in the falling snow for 90% of the day....been awhile since I did that. The trees out front of my balcony are gorgeously snow filled.  If you love winter I don't see how you can be disappointed this morning. 

NEXT!

 

 

Hate shopping but yesterday was very enjoyable driving around and being out in the snow as we went from store to store. A+ in my book.

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Public Information Statement
Spotter Reports
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
534 AM EST Sun Dec 10 2017

The following is a list of preliminary storm total snowfall
observations for the storm that affected our region on Saturday
December 9 2017. Appreciation is extended to highway departments,
cooperative observers, SKYWARN spotters and media This summary is
also available on our home page at www.weather.gov/lwx.

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

...District Of Columbia County...
   1 WSW National Zoo     2.4   901 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

MARYLAND

...Anne Arundel County...
   1 SSW South Gate       3.5   845 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   3 WNW Riveria Beach    3.2  1015 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   2 NNE Crofton          3.2   800 PM 12/09  NWS Employee
   1 NW Herald Harbor     3.1   930 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 NW Annapolis         3.0   800 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   Bwi Airport            2.8  1200 AM 12/10  Airport
   Crofton                2.5  1100 PM 12/09  NWS Employee
   2 WSW Harmans          2.0   930 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Baltimore County...
   1 E Bentley Springs    6.0   700 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   S Parkton              5.5   700 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 E Glyndon            5.0   700 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 SW Glyndon           5.0   617 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 WSW Glyndon          4.8   801 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   Reisterstown           4.5   736 PM 12/09  State Emrg Mgmt
   4 N Long Green         4.1   942 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 NNE Upper Falls      3.9   914 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 E Kingsville         3.9   910 PM 12/09  COCORAHS
   2 NW Long Green        3.8   830 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   2 NNW Brooklandville   3.8   755 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   2 E Perry Hall         3.5   920 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   Cockeysville           3.5   711 PM 12/09  Broadcast Media
   1 ENE White Marsh      3.5   855 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 SSE Catonsville      2.5  1030 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Baltimore City...
   SE Pimlico             3.5   915 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Calvert County...
   2 WNW Huntingtown      3.0   900 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 S Prince Frederick   2.5   900 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Carroll County...
   2 SE Westminster       6.5   900 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   NE Oakland             6.1   640 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 WNW Gamber           5.7   630 PM 12/09  COCORAHS
   3 SE Winfield          5.4   550 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   4 NE Millers           5.0   700 PM 12/09  Co-Op Observer
   SE Westminster         4.5   600 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 SE Eldersburg        4.3   550 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 W Westminster        4.0   600 PM 12/09  COCORAHS

...Charles County...
   1 SW Dentsville        2.3   954 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   La Plata               1.8   840 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER

...Frederick County...
   N New Market           3.0   615 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   3 N Thurmont           1.4   630 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Harford County...
   3 W Norrisville        5.5   700 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   3 WNW Abingdon         4.0   800 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 SW Bynum             4.0   911 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Howard County...
   Ellicott City          3.5   828 PM 12/09  Broadcast Media
   2 N Columbia           3.3   847 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   Elkridge               3.3   803 PM 12/09  Other Federal
   1 SSE Simpsonville     3.3   730 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 NW Ellicott City     3.1   743 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 W Elkridge           3.0   910 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   2 W Savage             3.0   910 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   Columbia               2.0   620 PM 12/09  NWS Employee
   1 ENE Columbia         1.5   917 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Montgomery County...
   Germantown             5.5   610 PM 12/09  Broadcast Media
   3 SSW Damascus         5.2   831 PM 12/09  Co-Op Observer
   1 ESE Clarksburg       4.6   715 PM 12/09  Other Federal
   2 W Derwood            4.4   650 PM 12/09  NWS Employee
   1 ESE Montgomery Vil   4.0   700 PM 12/09  COCORAHS
   Gaithersburg           3.5   714 PM 12/09  County Emrg Mgmt
   Poolesville            3.5   530 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 ENE Potomac          3.5   806 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 S Olney              3.5  1000 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 ESE Norbeck          3.3   800 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 ENE Montgomery Vil   3.2   830 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 SSW Montgomery Vil   3.0   700 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 ENE Garrett Park     2.5   755 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   Glen Echo              2.1   838 PM 12/09  NWS Employee

...Prince Georges County...
   1 E Bowie              2.5   630 PM 12/09  COCORAHS
   1 S Forest Heights     1.4   645 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...St. Marys County...
   1 ENE Ridge            6.2  1100 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 NNE Park Hall        5.2   830 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   2 WSW Clements         3.0  1100 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

VIRGINIA

...Albemarle County...
   Crozet                 3.0   839 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 S Boyd Tavern        1.4   600 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Arlington County...
   1 WNW Barcroft         2.3   931 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   Reagan National Airp   2.0   700 PM 12/09  Airport
   1 NNE Westover         1.8   548 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 S Rosslyn            1.2   715 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   2 W Reagan National    1.0   728 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER

...City of Fairfax...
   1 N Fairfax            2.5  1045 PM 12/09  NWS Employee

...City Of Falls Church County...
   1 W Falls Church       2.2   825 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...City of Fredericksburg...
   2 NW Fredericksburg    1.2   800 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER

...City of Harrisonburg...
   Harrisonburg           2.0   445 PM 12/09  Broadcast Media

...Fairfax County...
   3 N Chantilly          3.6  1030 PM 12/09  NWS Employee
   1 S Centreville        3.5   735 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 ENE Herndon          3.2   825 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 NNE Herndon          3.2   615 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 NNE Fairfax Statio   3.0   852 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 SE Centreville       3.0   922 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 SE I66 And I495 In   3.0   900 PM 12/09  NWS Employee
   W Centreville          2.9   915 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 ENE The I66 And I4   2.4   800 PM 12/09  COCORAHS
   1 SSW Franconia        2.1   900 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 SSE Dunn Loring      2.0   930 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 NE The I395 And I4   2.0   826 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 SE Langley           1.9   700 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Fauquier County...
   4 SSE Warrenton        3.4   930 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Loudoun County...
   3 WSW Ashburn          4.5   700 PM 12/09  NWS Employee
   Dulles International   4.0   700 PM 12/09  Airport
   2 E Leesburg           3.5   635 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 ESE Leesburg         3.1   657 PM 12/09  NWS Office
   2 NW Leesburg          3.0   602 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   Purcellville           2.2   647 PM 12/09  NWS Employee
   3 NW Hillsboro         1.8   648 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 WNW Lincoln          1.5   430 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 S Purcellville       1.5   427 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER

...Orange County...
   Thornhill              2.2   814 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 N Flat Run           2.0   450 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Prince William County...
   1 SW Woolsey           5.0   630 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   3 N Independent Hill   2.1   801 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 W Dale City          2.0   828 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 E Dale City          1.5   619 PM 12/09  County Emrg Mgmt

...Rockingham County...
   4 ESE Linville         3.3   436 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER

...Stafford County...
   3 SSE White Oak        2.2   826 PM 12/09  COCORAHS
   1 SSW Spring Valley    2.1  1035 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 W Ramoth             2.0  1000 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 SSE Glendie          1.7   829 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 ESE Brooke           1.6   820 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   5 SSW White Oak        1.6   811 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   2 WNW Roseville        1.5   800 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter

...Warren County...
   2 N Linden             3.0   525 PM 12/09  Trained Spotter
   1 ENE Front Royal      2.0   505 PM 12/09  TRAINED SPOTTER
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1 minute ago, showmethesnow said:

Not sure if you have a threads total up yet for snowfall but in case you haven't my total here was 2" for the storm. 

6"? CONGRATS!!! But I did notice you just had to outdo all the other spotters didn't you? A little competitive are we? :)

Hey, 2 isn’t bad for being as far west and north you are with this system. And thanks, I got lucky with those bands. 

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