RedSky Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 28 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: I dunno...this was a pretty good run too yes but multiple snow chances holiday week that never happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 GEFS is upping the optimism that the boundary gets clear of our area before Christmas. I believe in miracles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 I reload the page and see snow maps with greens and pinks over MBY and I started pants tenting and then zoom in to see the dates. Damn all y’all teasers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, WxUSAF said: I reload the page and see snow maps with greens and pinks over MBY and I started pants tenting and then zoom in to see the dates. Damn all y’all teasers. Trend since the 18z disaster are sweet. And this isn't way out in 15 day land either. I'm starting to feel relieved. Love the alignment on the 12z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: GEFS is upping the optimism that the boundary gets clear of our area before Christmas. I believe in miracles. There are a few members that have a snowstorm for us Day 10... then again on Day 12... again on Day 13-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 CAD sig is showing up strong on the ens mean. Can't say that happens often way out in time... Some of those epic ice solutions we're seeing on the GFS from time to time could be real too. The EPS has the same general idea with the MSLP plots d10-15. Chances of an ice storm for someone in the east seem to be increasing as we move forward in time. Hopefully we are far enough north but I'll embrace an ice storm. EJ might be chasing a montreal redux. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Now we're talkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 FWIW -- 12z GEFS ensemble mean total snowfall at Day 12 is around 2". At Day 16, its around 6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Jumpy ass models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, leesburg 04 said: Jumpy ass models A tad jumpy and a hair bouncy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: A tad jumpy and a hair bouncy I like the way you talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 GEFS mean jumped of significantly since 06z. 12z GFS insanely sweet too Also in the works: Boxing Day Storm 2: Electric Boogaloo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 33 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: I reload the page and see snow maps with greens and pinks over MBY and I started pants tenting and then zoom in to see the dates. Damn all y’all teasers. i did the same thing.... I almost spit my christmas luncheon drink on the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: Now we're talkin verbatim, lotsa smiles for everyone as were all in "the zone". Nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, pasnownut said: verbatim, lotsa smiles for everyone as were all in "the zone". Nut Ens show plenty of rain risk but overall a solid run. This period in particular looks pretty ripe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negnao Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, Cobalt said: GEFS mean jumped of significantly since 06z. 12z GFS insanely sweet too Also in the works: Boxing Day Storm 2: Electric Boogaloo E18. Please and thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: Now we're talkin Bob, looks like what I posted a few days ago that the CFS2 has been showing a stripe of AN precip over the east coast (including us) for January for 2+ weeks every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Negnao said: E18. Please and thank you. Wow. 7/20 ensemble members give us 1'+. None of them shut us out, and a majority show 3"+. Fun times ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 euro 240 not looking as good but model is going to keep flipping for a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ji said: euro 240 not looking as good but model is going to keep flipping for a few days Looks OK to me with all that cold over us and to our north https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf®ion=us&pkg=T850&runtime=2017121300&fh=240&xpos=0&ypos=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Bob Chill said: Now we're talkin That's a tears of joy worthy look right there. Now get it to stick for more then one run. Trends are good. The setup is stable we know what this will look like but where the boundary will be keeps moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, mitchnick said: Looks OK to me with all that cold over us and to our north https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf®ion=us&pkg=T850&runtime=2017121300&fh=240&xpos=0&ypos=0 Euro seems to love overdoing the sw trough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, mitchnick said: Looks OK to me with all that cold over us and to our north https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf®ion=us&pkg=T850&runtime=2017121300&fh=240&xpos=0&ypos=0 Old run. 12z lifted the baroclinoc zone north but its not a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderdog Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, mitchnick said: Looks OK to me with all that cold over us and to our north https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf®ion=us&pkg=T850&runtime=2017121300&fh=240&xpos=0&ypos=0 Mitch, that 0z I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cae Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 9 hours ago, showmethesnow said: During the summer I would think the verification scores are a fairly accurate reflection for our region as well. I am not so sure when it comes to the winter (late fall, early spring as well), at least at times. As we all know, what is paramount with most on these boards is snow so what we are concerned with is how do the models verify for short periods of time within our region. Considering the east coast (coastal waters) is quite often a volatile region , where the difference between storm, weak storm, no storm is often a fine a line to draw, one actually wants to know how the models verify within that specific small period of time within a fairly small scope of area. This is where I think the disconnect between verification and the handling of an actual storm comes into play quite often. So while a model may be aces across the board (N Hemi) with the macro features and verify high I think often enough they fail with the micro features in our small corner of the world (all of which is lost in the wash) to warrant some skepticism. I myself will put some weight into the verification scores but I think I place more weight on watching the actual model runs for those specific periods of time to form my own conclusions. It's a continual learning process as quite often a model may handle one setup extremely well and yet fail miserably in another setup. This is part of what makes tracking fun for me. The uncertainty and trying to guess where a model is headed. I agree - the North American verification scores are correlated with what happens around here, but the correlation isn't perfect. On average, the verification scores get the story about right though. The models that perform the best globally also tend to perform the best in North America and also tend to perform the best locally, even (from what I've seen) for snow events. But course the average verification scores are just averages -- there's a lot of fluctuation in the scores day-to-day. That's why we can't just sit back and watch the Euro and call it a day. Unless the Euro says we're getting a HECS. Then it's totally justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Old run. 12z lifted the baroclinoc zone north but its not a disaster. Meh, have no idea how that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 ALEET: DT all in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 48 minutes ago, Ji said: euro 240 not looking as good but model is going to keep flipping for a few days This is the most positive I have seen you in years... It is a Christmas Miracle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 40 minutes ago, Ji said: Euro seems to love overdoing the sw trough Words never more true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 GEPS looks kinda chilly to end the year: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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