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Winter 2017-18 banter thread


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2 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

I can remember names like Gloria, Bob, and Sandy.  That's 3 in 30 years.  Naming 30 every winter is ridiculous.  Juno, Nemo, Bartlo, they are all the same to me.  I need a date.

They have  a method for naming midlatitude cyclones in Europe, I'm not sure what their criteria is, but that should be utilized.

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7 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

Because it's not being done by an official agency such as the NHC does for tropical cyclones. Secondly nobody knows what the true criteria is for a named storm, however the parameters for naming a tropical cyclone are well defined. 

The names also don't seem to follow any particular pattern or have any meaning. It's nothing more than a publicity stunt by a weather media outlet. 

The way to do it would be to hook it up to NWS warning criteria- set the minimum limit to winter storm warnings covering X number of square miles and/or affecting Y number of people.  I think they do that but they need to refine it and have different sets of names for different geographic parts of the country.  Also, this method leaves out rainy windy noreasters which can have just as much or more impact, so I would also argue for including high wind warnings and flood warnings in the criteria.

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6 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

The storm in late March last year, I believe it was the 18th, was by far the largest snowfall of the season locally, and the largest since the January 2016 storm. 

I think this storm came on the anniversary of last year's (as well as the superstorm and March 1888).

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I wish I was around earlier to follow the observation thread earlier.  Plainview reported 11 - next closest Nassau number was 6,  and due south of Plainview on the south shore averaged around 2.   I think we usually see those N/S differences more pronounced in Suffolk than Nassau.  These N/S differences feel like April 10 1996.  Did anyone witness the event in Plainview or Dix Hills?  11" given the initial difficulty accumulating must have been a sight.

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11 minutes ago, coastalplainsnowman said:

I wish I was around earlier to follow the observation thread earlier.  Plainview reported 11 - next closest Nassau number was 6,  and due south of Plainview on the south shore averaged around 2.   I think we usually see those N/S differences more pronounced in Suffolk than Nassau.  These N/S differences feel like April 10 1996.  Did anyone witness the event in Plainview or Dix Hills?  11" given the initial difficulty accumulating must have been a sight.

lol I was thinking April 10 1996 because the Hamptons got over a foot then too and NYC got basically nothing.  JFK had 4-5.

Btw this storm is going to curve back to the west into Maine?  Why couldn't it do that at our latitude?

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1 hour ago, Paragon said:

Whats with this big solar storm being hyped up by the media for tomorrow night?  Can we see northern lights down this way?

I shot this in September from the Catskills. I've been checking the forecast non stop. Tomorrow night and Thursday night will be prime for aurora boralis but the entire Northeast will be socked in with clouds. 

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15 minutes ago, tim said:

..noticed NWS has not updated snow totals since 1pm..just sayin'.

You have to go to the public information statement section

NEW YORK

...Nassau County...
   Jericho                6.0  1130 AM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Old Bethpage           5.5   250 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Garden City            5.0  1145 AM  3/13  Public
   East Meadow            5.0  1124 AM  3/13  Public
   New Hyde Park          4.7  1200 PM  3/13  Social Media
   Roslyn                 4.0  1200 PM  3/13  Public
   Massapequa Park        3.2  1115 AM  3/13  Public
   Farmingdale            3.0  1215 PM  3/13  Public
   Wantagh                2.7  1200 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter

...Orange County...
   Middletown             5.0  1130 AM  3/13  Public
   Mount Hope             5.0  1224 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter

...Queens County...
   Woodhaven              3.5  1200 PM  3/13  Public
   NYC/JFK Airport        1.2   200 PM  3/13  FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER
   Rego Park              0.5  1242 PM  3/13  Public
   NYC/LaGuardia Airpor   0.2   200 PM  3/13  FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER

...Suffolk County...
   Southampton           18.3   332 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   East Hampton          10.3   200 PM  3/13  Public
   Orient                10.0  1207 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Centereach            10.0  1218 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Stony Brook            8.3  1215 PM  3/13  NWS Employee
   Saint James            8.0  1227 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Commack                7.5  1130 AM  3/13  Public
   Bohemia                7.4   133 PM  3/13  Public
   Cutchogue              7.4   117 PM  3/13  Public
   Medford                7.3  1210 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Lake Ronkonkoma        7.0   116 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Selden                 7.0  1128 AM  3/13  Social Media
   Central Islip          6.9  1230 PM  3/13  Public
   Smithtown              6.8  1115 AM  3/13  Fire Dept/Rescue
   Miller Place           6.6  1240 PM  3/13  Social Media
   Islip Airport          6.4   200 PM  3/13  FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER
   Blue Point             6.0  1220 PM  3/13  Public
   Jamesport              6.0   120 PM  3/13  Public
   Riverhead              5.5   140 PM  3/13  NWS Employee
   Calverton              5.0  1207 PM  3/13  Co-Op Observer
   Upton                  4.5   148 PM  3/13  NWS Office
   Shoreham               4.0  1200 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Sayville               3.8  1215 PM  3/13  Public
   Bay Shore              3.1  1248 PM  3/13  NWS Employee
   2 SE Ridge             3.0   140 PM  3/13  CoCoRaHS
   Sound Beach            2.5   100 PM  3/13  NWS Employee
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46 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

You have to go to the public information statement section


NEW YORK

...Nassau County...
   Jericho                6.0  1130 AM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Old Bethpage           5.5   250 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Garden City            5.0  1145 AM  3/13  Public
   East Meadow            5.0  1124 AM  3/13  Public
   New Hyde Park          4.7  1200 PM  3/13  Social Media
   Roslyn                 4.0  1200 PM  3/13  Public
   Massapequa Park        3.2  1115 AM  3/13  Public
   Farmingdale            3.0  1215 PM  3/13  Public
   Wantagh                2.7  1200 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter

...Orange County...
   Middletown             5.0  1130 AM  3/13  Public
   Mount Hope             5.0  1224 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter

...Queens County...
   Woodhaven              3.5  1200 PM  3/13  Public
   NYC/JFK Airport        1.2   200 PM  3/13  FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER
   Rego Park              0.5  1242 PM  3/13  Public
   NYC/LaGuardia Airpor   0.2   200 PM  3/13  FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER

...Suffolk County...
   Southampton           18.3   332 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   East Hampton          10.3   200 PM  3/13  Public
   Orient                10.0  1207 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Centereach            10.0  1218 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Stony Brook            8.3  1215 PM  3/13  NWS Employee
   Saint James            8.0  1227 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Commack                7.5  1130 AM  3/13  Public
   Bohemia                7.4   133 PM  3/13  Public
   Cutchogue              7.4   117 PM  3/13  Public
   Medford                7.3  1210 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Lake Ronkonkoma        7.0   116 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Selden                 7.0  1128 AM  3/13  Social Media
   Central Islip          6.9  1230 PM  3/13  Public
   Smithtown              6.8  1115 AM  3/13  Fire Dept/Rescue
   Miller Place           6.6  1240 PM  3/13  Social Media
   Islip Airport          6.4   200 PM  3/13  FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER
   Blue Point             6.0  1220 PM  3/13  Public
   Jamesport              6.0   120 PM  3/13  Public
   Riverhead              5.5   140 PM  3/13  NWS Employee
   Calverton              5.0  1207 PM  3/13  Co-Op Observer
   Upton                  4.5   148 PM  3/13  NWS Office
   Shoreham               4.0  1200 PM  3/13  Trained Spotter
   Sayville               3.8  1215 PM  3/13  Public
   Bay Shore              3.1  1248 PM  3/13  NWS Employee
   2 SE Ridge             3.0   140 PM  3/13  CoCoRaHS
   Sound Beach            2.5   100 PM  3/13  NWS Employee

blah no update on the 18.3 total from Southampton and it was snowing there through 8 PM, I'm pretty sure they reached 20"

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1 hour ago, seanick said:

I shot this in September from the Catskills. I've been checking the forecast non stop. Tomorrow night and Thursday night will be prime for aurora boralis but the entire Northeast will be socked in with clouds. 

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Wow this is spectacular Nick!  I love reflections too and was wondering if you've captured a specific kind of image.  Either the Milky Way or Andromeda or a constellation like Orion (along with the Nebula) with its reflection in a pond or lake.  I've seen such images on APOD, but none from our area, the ones I saw were from faraway places like Tibet.

 

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8 minutes ago, Paragon said:

Wow this is spectacular Nick!  I love reflections too and was wondering if you've captured a specific kind of image.  Either the Milky Way or Andromeda or a constellation like Orion (along with the Nebula) with its reflection in a pond or lake.  I've seen such images on APOD, but none from our area, the ones I saw were from faraway places like Tibet.

 

I haven't had the chance. I haven't had the time to travel to truly dark sky locations out west. I have been to Acadia in Maine which is pretty dark but it was windy so I didn't have the chance to get the reflection 

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Late this afternoon, there was good snow coverage on Old Country Road in Mineola and Westbury, decent coverage south of there along Hempstead Turnpike, and much less south of the Southern State. South of Merrick Rd there was practically none. There probably was 5” along Old Country Road but there’s no way I had over an inch or so. The most there ever was on the ground was a thick coating that began melting as soon as the deform band pushed east. 

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4 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Late this afternoon, there was good snow coverage on Old Country Road in Mineola and Westbury, decent coverage south of there along Hempstead Turnpike, and much less south of the Southern State. South of Merrick Rd there was practically none. There probably was 5” along Old Country Road but there’s no way I had over an inch or so. The most there ever was on the ground was a thick coating that began melting as soon as the deform band pushed east. 

About 5" on Merrick Rd in Massapequa Park which all melted in 6 hours.  Pretty amazing.

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5 hours ago, Paragon said:

blah no update on the 18.3 total from Southampton and it was snowing there through 8 PM, I'm pretty sure they reached 20"

They definitely had a lot of snow. I drove from Staten Island to Montauk tonight for astrophotography. Once you get east of the Robert Moses you begin to see snow. Out of all the towns I drive through along Montauk highway they certainly had the most. 

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1 minute ago, seanick said:

They definitely had a lot of snow. I drove from Staten Island to Montauk tonight for astrophotography. Once you get east of the Robert Moses you begin to see snow. Out of all the towns I drive through along Montauk highway they certainly had the most. 

Wow, did you make it all the way out to Montauk?  And did Southampton have more snow than Montauk did?  How long was the trip?

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1 hour ago, Paragon said:

Wow, did you make it all the way out to Montauk?  And did Southampton have more snow than Montauk did?  How long was the trip?

The roads were fine as far as snow. A lot of black ice though. Southampton had more snow than even the next town over on each side. They must have had one hell of a snow band positioned over them. I'll take photos on my way back once it's daylight although I'm sure a lot melted. It took me 3 hours to get out here. Winds are gusting to 30 but there's not a cloud in the sky and all the stars are out. I'll post photos tomorrow. 

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48 minutes ago, tim said:

...this is one winter weather enthusiast who has had enough of winter weather..after # 4 next week i'm hoping we start to warm up..any LR guys have any insight??

 

Yeah I'm ready for the warmth too but it won't be coming anytime soon.  Looks quite chilly heading into next week.

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50 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Will this drought continue long enough to become a player for the summer forecast in the US?

Amarillo, TX, is going into its unprecedented *sixth month* of virtually no precipitation. Only 0.01" has fallen since October 13. No raindrops in the latest forecast. pic.twitter.com/v0G9nFc7Hl

Severe season starts soon down there, I'm sure they will start making up for it. 

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