Santa Claus Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 The prevalence of metro snow events in the 2000's is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Glad to see @NorthShoreWx posting. Hope all is well with you and yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 22 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Glad to see @NorthShoreWx posting. Hope all is well with you and yours. Stickin out mate, thanks for asking! Hope you are too! It looks nice outside, but I'm getting the feeling this is one of those don't count your bullseye before its hatched days. Best banding has been well to our west. However, the convection over the ocean was looking mildly interesting. Hope springs eternal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 6 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said: Stickin out mate, thanks for asking! Hope you are too! It looks nice outside, but I'm getting the feeling this is one of those don't count your bullseye before its hatched days. Best banding has been well to our west. However, the convection over the ocean was looking mildly interesting. Hope springs eternal. Looks like the mix line stayed to your east! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 12/8/2017 at 5:10 PM, Rjay said: Redhook/NJ guy has the hot hand He vanished after the 12z runs on Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 56 minutes ago, Snow88 said: He vanished after the 12z runs on Thursday Bonds actually did make a cameo in one of the threads briefly but maybe he's on the trainers table getting treatment , who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 At least a couple more potential shots of snow along with our coldest air of the season and then what? Euro/EPS has a brief mild up (near normal) before more cold air comes in, gfs much more sketchy. I see a +AO/NAO with a declining +PNA, which suggests a much stronger/more sustained warm surge right on cue for Grinchmas. But then the pattern may reload by January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: At least a couple more potential shots of snow along with our coldest air of the season and then what? Euro/EPS has a brief mild up (near normal) before more cold air comes in, gfs much more sketchy. I see a +AO/NAO with a declining +PNA, which suggests a much stronger/more sustained warm surge right on cue for Grinchmas. But then the pattern may reload by January. I don't mind a mild last 10 days of December as long as we get something big in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 What do St Augustine, Florida and Camp Muir at 10,000 feet on Mt. Rainier have in common? Usually, not much. But they're both 36 degrees this hour. #wawx 3:53 AM - 10 Dec 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Three chances for snow just before [19-24] Christmas, but rain is more likely except for the last one on the 24th. Meanwhile entire nation is AN briefly on the 18th. This comes after light snow or snow showers the 12th & 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 so far December is playing out like 1962 only with more snow...1962 was a very cold month with average snow but above average snow to the south...this year could be a few degrees warmer but with more snow than 1962... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Rapid melting occuring this morning. 3 days around 40 should wipe most of the snowpack out by Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said: Rapid melting occuring this morning. 3 days around 40 should wipe most of the snowpack out by Tuesday Upton got me near 50 Tuesday ahead of the clipper, so certainly expecting brown ground out here. North of us looks pretty solid to build snowcover prechristmas, hopefully we join them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Merry Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Bills game today looks fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 The morning low of 50° in #Miami (KMIA) makes it the coldest temperature in 652 days... since February 27, 2016. It never dropped this low even once last winter. #FLwx #FINALLY 4:13 AM - 10 Dec 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom X Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I would really like to see a Feb 1899 cold wave repeat. With these extreme patterns lately and especially that we were able to experience Feb 2015 makes it seem possible now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 35 minutes ago, bluewave said: The morning low of 50° in #Miami (KMIA) makes it the coldest temperature in 652 days... since February 27, 2016. It never dropped this low even once last winter. #FLwx #FINALLY 4:13 AM - 10 Dec 2017 I have a small weather station at my apt on north Miami Beach.. 49 was the low this morning there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, snywx said: I have a small weather station at my apt on north Miami Beach.. 49 was the low this morning there. I can remember staying at the old Americana Hotel in Bal Harbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Fantom X said: I would really like to see a Feb 1899 cold wave repeat. With these extreme patterns lately and especially that we were able to experience Feb 2015 makes it seem possible now. Jan 1977 got a couple of inches of snow down near Tampa and snow flurries all the way to Miami and Homestead, south of Miami! They even had a dusting of snow in the Bahamas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 my Brother moved to the Tampa area in the fall of 1980...it got into the low 20's more than a few times in the 1980's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Paragon said: Jan 1977 got a couple of inches of snow down near Tampa and snow flurries all the way to Miami and Homestead, south of Miami! They even had a dusting of snow in the Bahamas! I remember that. There were pictures on NBC news at 6 and saw it while eating dinner. 10 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: Rapid melting occuring this morning. 3 days around 40 should wipe most of the snowpack out by Tuesday This isn't a 'snowpack' it's just snow on the ground form one storm. I've always though of the pack being from storm on storm. I mentioned in a post yesterday that the ground temp was well above freezing and as the snow accumulated the soil temp was actually going up around 1 degree every 3 hours or so. By the time the snow stopped last night it was between 39<>43 up here and the lower layer was quite slushy. By this morning it had stabilized in the mid 30's and the snow was melting from underneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, gravitylover said: I remember that. There were pictures on NBC news at 6 and saw it while eating dinner. This isn't a 'snowpack' it's just snow on the ground form one storm. I've always though of the pack being from storm on storm. I mentioned in a post yesterday that the ground temp was well above freezing and as the snow accumulated the soil temp was actually going up around 1 degree every 3 hours or so. By the time the snow stopped last night it was between 39<>43 up here and the lower layer was quite slushy. By this morning it had stabilized in the mid 30's and the snow was melting from underneath. True, then just snow. But some said it would stick around due to the deep freeze but that's still 3 days away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, gravitylover said: I remember that. There were pictures on NBC news at 6 and saw it while eating dinner. This isn't a 'snowpack' it's just snow on the ground form one storm. I've always though of the pack being from storm on storm. I mentioned in a post yesterday that the ground temp was well above freezing and as the snow accumulated the soil temp was actually going up around 1 degree every 3 hours or so. By the time the snow stopped last night it was between 39<>43 up here and the lower layer was quite slushy. By this morning it had stabilized in the mid 30's and the snow was melting from underneath. Any idea why the soil temp would increase like that during a snowfall? I'm imagining something along the lines of latent heat release from melting and refreezing snow causing a feedback loop but that's probably way more complicated than the actual answer. Either way, most of my nearly 6" is already gone with swaths of bare grass opening up. I have one of the best radiating sites in the region and do pretty well in most snowstorms relative to surrounding towns, but living on a giant south-facing slope is the price I pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseFood4Snow Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Oops, put this in the wrong thread. Hopefully, it's worth reposting for you! First snowfall of the year has me reminiscing about my favorite storms. Check out my thoughts on the subject...Snow Way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Winter Stratosphere this millenium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, StormchaserChuck said: Winter Stratosphere this millenium Which leads to this record breaking -EPO: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 6 hours ago, nzucker said: Which leads to this record breaking -EPO: I am going to call it the great blocking shift of 2013. Dominant NH high latitude blocking switched from the NAO region to the EPO area. Something around the beginning of 2013 caused most of the extreme blocking to shift over to the NE PAC from the NATL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 13 hours ago, gravitylover said: I remember that. There were pictures on NBC news at 6 and saw it while eating dinner. This isn't a 'snowpack' it's just snow on the ground form one storm. I've always though of the pack being from storm on storm. I mentioned in a post yesterday that the ground temp was well above freezing and as the snow accumulated the soil temp was actually going up around 1 degree every 3 hours or so. By the time the snow stopped last night it was between 39<>43 up here and the lower layer was quite slushy. By this morning it had stabilized in the mid 30's and the snow was melting from underneath. I noticed that as my kids were playing in it yesterday-muddy and slushy. tough to keep snow on the ground this year with the warm ground even if it's cold outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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