Paragon Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, bluewave said: We have been lucky to avoid very heavy rains on snowpack and high end ice storms during the 2000's so far. All our big snowpack melts have been the result of extreme warmth coming shortly after heavy snow. Yes like Feb 2006! That snow went away very quickly- more quickly than Jan 1996 Those two storms don't even belong in the same sentence lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Paragon said: Yes like Feb 2006! That snow went away very quickly- more quickly than Jan 1996 Those two storms don't even belong in the same sentence lol. I was really disappointed to miss the jackpot on that Feb 2006 event in Long Beach. But it was some of the best winter surfing of the 2000's so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, bluewave said: I was really disappointed to miss the jackpot on that Feb 2006 event in Long Beach. But it was some of the best winter surfing of the 2000's so far. I think we had the lowpot lol, we had the lowest snowfall of the entire area, half of what NYC got. Nice snow surfing though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, bluewave said: We have been lucky to avoid very heavy rains on snowpack and high end ice storms during the 2000's so far. All our big snowpack melts have been the result of extreme warmth coming shortly after heavy snow. I don't remember specifics but it has happened a few times up here in the last 20 years with rain into a deep snowpack causing an insta-melt. I know because as it is happening we run around the basement getting everything off the floor and onto tables or something solid that's off the floor. Rapid, wet snowmelts cause significant basement flooding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Paragon said: I think we had the lowpot lol, we had the lowest snowfall of the entire area, half of what NYC got. Nice snow surfing though! That was one of my least favorite snowstorm outcomes since 2000 along with Feb 13 and Jan 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, bluewave said: That was one of my least favorite snowstorm outcomes since 2000 along with Feb 13 and Jan 15. That entire winter lol Including Dec 9 2005 But yes the three you mentioned are the top 3 because they would have been HECS Jan 2016 made up for it though! 30+ inch snowstorm :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, gravitylover said: I don't remember specifics but it has happened a few times up here in the last 20 years with rain into a deep snowpack causing an insta-melt. I know because as it is happening we run around the basement getting everything off the floor and onto tables or something solid that's off the floor. Rapid, wet snowmelts cause significant basement flooding Having a basement is brutal in flooding situations. I lived in a LB basement apartment during Agnes in 1972. We lost all the carpeting and various pieces of furniture after that one. My friends basement really got hit during the Spring 83 floods. After that it was October 2005 and August 2011 for extensive basement flooding in Long Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, bluewave said: Having a basement is brutal in flooding situations. I lived in a LB basement apartment during Agnes in 1972. We lost all the carpeting and various pieces of furniture after that one. My friends basement really got hit during the Spring 83 floods. After that it was October 2005 and August 2011 for extensive basement flooding in Long Beach. I remember hearing about a lot of flooding after the Perfect Storm and Dec 1992 noreaster too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, Paragon said: I remember hearing about a lot of flooding after the Perfect Storm and Dec 1992 noreaster too. That was some of the worst coastal flooding in LB before Sandy came along. I was only mentioning flooding caused by rainfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, bluewave said: That was one of my least favorite snowstorm outcomes since 2000 along with Feb 13 and Jan 15. Don't talk to NJ folks about Jan 15 haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rjay said: Don't talk to NJ folks about Jan 15 haha Watching those last few model runs before the storm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 When the Jan 15 reunion rolls around I hope I'm seated at the New England table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 The Times Square Ball Drop Temp. could be 11 degs. (Good for 2nd. coldest) Coney Island Polar Bears may have to endure 16 degs. (1PM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, Rjay said: Don't talk to NJ folks about Jan 15 haha Feb 2013 had to be the most disappointing of all for us. https://www.wunderground.com/blog/24hourprof/unprecedented-radar-reflectivities-and-snowfall-rates.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Feb 13 I can agree to hate. The area that got smoked on the Island was literally like 1 or 2 miles to my west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 the last time there was at least a trace of snow on the ground Christmas and New Years morning was in 2009...2" Christmas morning... and a trace on New Years morning... year...Christmas New Years... 2009..........2"..........trace 2000.......trace..........9" 1975.......trace..........1" 1970.......trace..........2" 1967.......trace..........3" 1966..........7".........trace 1963..........4"............2" 1961..........6".........trace 1960..........1".........trace 1948..........6"............5" 1947..........1"..........15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 hours ago, bluewave said: Having a basement is brutal in flooding situations. I lived in a LB basement apartment during Agnes in 1972. We lost all the carpeting and various pieces of furniture after that one. My friends basement really got hit during the Spring 83 floods. After that it was October 2005 and August 2011 for extensive basement flooding in Long Beach. It isn't due to normal flooding because the house is on the side of a hill not far from the top. When there is a rapid melt off accompanied by rain the water trying to run down the hill ends up blocked by the house and comes up through the floor drain and sometimes into and up through the pit where the septic trap is too. We dug french drains a while back but apparently didn't go deep enough, tough to do by hand when you can't get heavy equipment into the yard and it's all rock and roots. Way back when there was an interesting drainage system of pipes and ceramic drains on the hill above the house that would channel the water away but it got broken up by tree roots and clogged with rotted leaves when the flow was interrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, CIK62 said: The Times Square Ball Drop Temp. could be 11 degs. (Good for 2nd. closest) Coney Island Polar Bears may have to endure 16 degs. (1PM) ..and lets not forget..NY Rangers vrs. Buffalo Sabres @ Citi Field on new years day..would love to see the game played in those conditions..would love it more if the Islanders were playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I don't remember specifics but it has happened a few times up here in the last 20 years with rain into a deep snowpack causing an insta-melt. I know because as it is happening we run around the basement getting everything off the floor and onto tables or something solid that's off the floor. Rapid, wet snowmelts cause significant basement flooding Sorry to hear that. Where are you? I had recently got it a French drain in my basement.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Many many late nights coming for euro runs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 8 hours ago, Rjay said: I honestly think we could torch in mid January. Typical la niña but hopefully we dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Nibor said: Watching those last few model runs before the storm... Nam and Euro ftl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I took off next friday to jebwalk in the snowstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 For the record, 12Z EURO was 20" in City, +/-5" and could be our seventh 20 incher in just 22 years. Worst hit areas are north and northeast of us. This is probably the worst run we will see. Now let us see if it can hold it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 hours ago, North and West said: Sorry to hear that. Where are you? I had recently got it a French drain in my basement. . Other side of the river from you, Mahopac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, Snow88 said: GFS is insane. It is still snowing Sunday morning. Started Friday morning. Ouch if that is right you might have to change your name from Snow88 to Snow17 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Paragon said: Ouch if that is right you might have to change your name from Snow88 to Snow17 lol. I might have to lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Snow88 said: I might have to lol See if you can get the snow to still be falling when the ball is dropping on NYE. That would be fun lol Then your new name could be SnowNYE18 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Paragon said: See if you can get the snow to still be falling when the ball is dropping on NYE. That would be fun lol Then your new name could be SnowNYE18 lol. I have to work in Times Square on NYE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 6 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: If only this wasn't so far away, 7-8 days out is an eternity. Nice second fantasy storm on 18z gfs post New Year's. No, this is good, we're going to have over a week of fun tracking this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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