Roger Smith Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 The contest follows the same format as the past two winters. Predict the total seasonal snowfall (some may have already fallen at some locations) using the following table as a guide (1986-2015 average values and the past two seasons are shown) ... please use the entry form below this table. Note there are three tie-breakers involving monthly amounts at ORD, IND and DTW. LOCATION _______________ 1986-2015 ____ 2015-16 ____ 2016-17 Alpena, MI (APN) _____________ 80.4 _______ 88.8 ________66.4 Chicago, IL (ORD) ____________ 38.1 _______ 31.2 ________26.1 Cleveland, OH (CLE) ___________67.2 _______32.8 ________ 37.3 Columbus, OH (CMH) __________28.4 _______ 17.1 ________ 9.3 Detroit, MI (DTW) ____________ 44.8 _______ 35.3 _______ 37.9 Fort Wayne, IN (FWA) _________ 34.0 _______ 20.0 _______ 18.5 Grand Rapids, MI (GRR) ________77.1 _______ 61.1 _______ 60.1 Green Bay, WI (GRB) __________54.2 _______ 50.0 _______ 53.2 Indianapolis, IN (IND) _________ 25.9 _______ 13.3 ________9.7 La Crosse, WI (LSE) ___________46.1 _______ 40.3 _______ 42.2 London, ON (YXU) ____________ 75.7 _______ 65.2 _______ 66.1 Louisville, KY (SDF) ___________ 13.9 _______ 14.9 ________ 2.7 Marquette, MI (MQT) _________ 199.8 ______ 160.9 ______ 154.0 Milwaukee, WI (MKE) __________49.2 ________39.1 _______ 37.6 Minneapolis, MN (MSP) ________ 50.6_________36.7 _______32.0 Moline, IL (MLI) ______________ 33.5 ________ 24.1 _______22.4 Paducah, KY (PAH)_____________ 9.2 ________ 12.1 ________1.2 Peoria, IL (PIA) _______________24.9 ________ 15.3 _______13.9 St. Louis, MO (STL) ___________ 18.4 ________ 10.9 ________3.2 Toronto, ON (YYZ) ____________ 42.5 ________ 25.9 _______32.6 ------------------------------- --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- ENTRY FORM APN __ ORD __ CLE __ CMH __ DET __ FWA __ GRR __ GRB __ IND __ LSE __ YXU __ SDF __ MQT __ MKE __ MSP __ MLI __ PAH __ PIA __ STL __ YYZ __ Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal) 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you want to see individual years in the 1986-2015 period, check the 2015-16 contest thread (several pages into the archives now), post number one there has a table of the 30 years in the period used. Entries will be accepted until end of the day Thursday, Nov 30th (2359 CST). You can edit entries before that time as the table of entries will be done in early December (using an excel table format). Good luck !! Late entries (Dec 1 to 7) will be scored but cannot place higher than 6th, enter for the fun of it if you want though. Entries that appear in the thread after Dec 8 will not be scored. (This was later extended to end of Dec 10 to encourage more entries -- contest is now underway and closed to further entries). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Thanks for putting this up Roger! I will be entering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 APN 77" ORD 37" CLE 47" CMH 18" DET 55" FWA 42" GRR 68" GRB 53" IND 22" LSE 35" YXU 70" SDF 8.5" MQT 157" MKE 45" MSP 34" MLI 32" PAH 5" PIA 18" STL 14" YYZ 45" Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal) 7.0" 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 8.0" 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) 13.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 APN __ 72 ORD __ 30 CLE __ 55 CMH __ 20 DET __ 40 FWA __ 30 GRR __ 80 GRB __ 45 IND __ 11 LSE __ 34 YXU __ 80 SDF __ 10 MQT __176 MKE __ 35 MSP __ 38 MLI __ 22 PAH __ 11 PIA __ 12 STL __ 15 YYZ __ 35 Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal) __ 6.5" 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) __ 3.5" 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) __ 17.2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Alpena, MI (APN) 105 Chicago, IL (ORD) 41 Cleveland, OH (CLE) 69 Columbus, OH (CMH) 31 Detroit, MI (DTW) 48 Fort Wayne, IN (FWA) 45 Grand Rapids, MI (GRR) 90 Green Bay, WI (GRB) 47 Indianapolis, IN (IND) 19 La Crosse, WI (LSE) 35 London, ON (YXU) 64 Louisville, KY (SDF) 7 Marquette, MI (MQT) 233 Milwaukee, WI (MKE) 41 Minneapolis, MN (MSP) 43 Moline, IL (MLI) 25 Paducah, KY (PAH) 11 Peoria, IL (PIA) 28 St. Louis, MO (STL) 22 Toronto, ON (YYZ) 48 Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD 6.4 2. January 2018 snowfall IND 5.0" 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW 16.8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 APN 85" ORD 44" CLE 72" CMH 20" DET 46" FWA 33" GRR 83" GRB 62" IND 22" LSE 51" YXU 68" SDF 7.5" MQT 188" MKE 44" MSP 52" MLI 38" PAH 5.5" PIA 21" STL 12.5" YYZ 45" Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal) 10.2" 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 6.3 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) 9.2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 ENTRY FORM APN __105" ORD __54" CLE __70" CMH __ 34" DET __52" FWA __42" GRR __91" GRB __60" IND __32" LSE __52" YXU __81" SDF __15" MQT __220" MKE __55" MSP __57" MLI __39" PAH __12" PIA __30" STL __17" YYZ __27" Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal) 8.5" 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 11" 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) 16.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 APN 74" ORD 39" CLE 46" CMH 26" DET 45" FWA 42" GRR 71" GRB 51" IND 31" LSE 35" YXU 64" SDF 8.5" MQT 142" MKE 45" MSP 29" MLI 31" PAH 4" PIA 37" STL 23" YYZ 40" Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal) 9.0" 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 11.0" 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) 9.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 APN __ 72.6” ORD __ 27.6” CLE __ 45.3” CMH __ 14.7” DET __ 30.5” FWA __ 32.2” GRR __ 57.8” GRB __ 43.3” IND __ 11.6” LSE __ 31.7” YXU __ 73.0” SDF __ 9.7” MQT __ 167.5” MKE __ 35.0” MSP __ 42.5” MLI __ 14.0” PAH __ 12.6” PIA __ 8.9” STL __ 12.5” YYZ __ 44.6” 1. 2.3” 2. 3.8” 3. 6.8” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, (((Will))) said: Come on, add Houghton, Michigan - CMX Do they officially measure snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slow poke Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 0:03 AM, Roger Smith said: ENTRY FORM APN __80 ORD __39 CLE __70 CMH __ 30 DET __40 FWA __36 GRR __78 GRB __52 IND __26 LSE __45 YXU __76 SDF __15 MQT __200 MKE __48 MSP __50 MLI __33 PAH __12 PIA __24 STL __18 YYZ __40 Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD 8.0 2. January 2018 snowfall IND 8.0 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW 8.0 Thanks Roger for doing this again, good luck to all who enter...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, (((Will))) said: Yeah, they do. It's done, I think, at the Keweenaw Research Center through MTU. Also, John Dee monitors snow on a daily basis as well. He's about 4ish miles north of Calumet in Allouez TWP. Oh wow I didn't know that. I figured it was just coop observers outside of MQT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 We are a little short on entries, would anyone object if I extended the deadline to Sunday Dec 10th at end of day CST, with your option to edit your forecasts. I will post a notice in the forum banter or discussion threads. So edit away, I have not looked at any forecasts yet (have been very busy moving house and just getting back to various projects now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomp2mp Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 NTRY FORM APN 81.1 ORD 30.5 CLE 48.5 CMH 22.0 DET 49.1 FWA 22.2 GRR 69.6 GRB 42.4 IND 27 LSE 42.1 YXU 70 SDF 9.9 MQT 182.5 MKE 42.7 MSP 59.8 MLI 29 PAH 7.7 PIA 27.1 STL 14.5 YYZ 37.5 Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal): 13.1 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 4.5 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 On 2017-11-12 at 0:03 AM, Roger Smith said: Always fun to watch this unfold. ------------------------------- --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- ENTRY FORM APN __ 97.6 ORD __44.9 CLE __89.7 CMH __ 30.1 DET __69.2 FWA __38 GRR __83.1 GRB __50.3 IND __22.1 LSE __41.2 YXU __87.3 SDF __17.2 MQT __222.3 MKE __47.2 MSP __49.9 MLI __30.2 PAH __14.3 PIA __28.3 STL __17.2 YYZ __48.2 Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal)10.2 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal)8.1 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal)13.3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Fitting this is my 1000 th post !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 What the heck might as well give it a try. APN 92.1 ORD 44.6 CLE 64.4 CMH 27.0 DTW 55.4 FWA 39.9 GRR 86.8 GRB 53.3 IND 24.4 LSE 47.7 YXU 95.9 SDF 11.8 MQT 223.4 MKE 51.1 MSP 52.6 MLI 34.5 PAH 8.8 PIA 25.7 STL 16.1 YYZ 55.5 Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal): 9.8 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 9.0 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) 12.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndTenn Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 APN - 100 ORD - 65 CLE - 50 CMH - 30 DTW - 83 FWA - 47 GRR - 106 GRB - 84 IND - 35 LSE - 81 YXU - 145 SDF - 29 MQT - 216 MKE - 71 MSP - 87 MLI - 58 PAH - 23 PIA - 40 STL - 52 YYZ - 104 TB1 - 15 TB2 - 6 TB3 - 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, IndTenn said: APN - 100 ORD - 65 CLE - 50 CMH - 30 DTW - 83 FWA - 47 GRR - 106 GRB - 84 IND - 35 LSE - 81 YXU - 145 SDF - 29 MQT - 216 MKE - 71 MSP - 87 MLI - 58 PAH - 23 PIA - 40 STL - 52 YYZ - 104 TB1 - 15 TB2 - 6 TB3 - 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 APN __ 90 ORD __ 35 CLE __ 60 CMH __ 30 DET __ 45 FWA __ 35 GRR __ 80 GRB __ 56 IND __ 20 LSE __ 45 YXU __ 80 SDF __ 15 MQT __ 205 MKE __ 50 MSP __ 45 MLI __ 25 PAH __ 8 PIA __ 18 STL __ 10 YYZ __ 43 Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal) 7 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 9 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 Friendly reminder, this is inches not cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpbob21 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 0:03 AM, Roger Smith said: APN 73 ORD 39 CLE 53 CMH 28 DET 38 FWA 41 GRR 90 GRB 37 IND 31 LSE 35 YXU 59 SDF 21 MQT 186 MKE 38 MSP 37 MLI 28 PAH 20 PIA 23 STL 17 YYZ 49 Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal) 6.5 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 13.6 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) 9.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmillzz Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 APN 75 ORD 30 CLE 48 CMH 15 DET 43 FWA 28 GRR 70 GRB 45 IND 19 LSE 45 YXU 55 SDF 12 MQT 168 MKE 40 MSP 45 MLI 25 PAH 9 PIA 19 STL 10 YYZ 40 Tiebreakers 1. December 2017 snowfall ORD (8.5" normal): 4.2 2. January 2018 snowfall IND (8.6" normal) 8.2 3. February 2018 snowfall DTW (10.2" normal) 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 The contest is now closed to further entries; we have 15 forecasts. In general terms, the forecasts call for slightly below average total snowfall as shown in the following table which lists the contest average (blue), 1986-2015 average (green), and contest max and min entries (bold type). Other entries between max and min are shown in their approximate positions relative to these by two-letter codes of names of the 13 remaining entrants. These are expanded to user names at the bottom of the graph where you will also find each forecaster's 20-station total forecast. That total forecast, rather than alphabetical order is used to generate the list of forecasters. Ten of the fifteen predicted below 1986-2015 average amounts overall, although of those ten, only five were below 90% with the lowest being 77% from DMC76. Meanwhile, one forecaster (IndTenn) was about 50% above normal, the other higher forecasts were closer to 10% above recent normals. The one high forecast skews the average somewhat, it is 1% higher than the median. The mean forecast is 99% of normal and the median is 98%. In general, somewhat higher outcomes were predicted in lower Michigan and southern Ontario, the trends further west and south are generally a bit below average. ConA is contest average (blue). A color code keeps that distinct from the 1986-2015 average (8615) which is aligned in one column at center of graph. The actual positions of MIN and MAX values are also moved around somewhat to reflect how wide a spread they present against the 1986-2015 average. When lined up with the titles, MIN is 50 per cent and MAX is 150 per cent of 1986-2015 average. Some max values are not to scale (would be off the page, as indicated by the use of >> before the entry). The scale otherwise is as close as I could make it while separating the letters to make it readable. Two or more names with commas between them have same forecasts. During the course of the winter I will move "actual" in red into this table and keep it moving to the right as totals mount up (we hope or maybe not). Those amounts are already in this graph for stations that have seen snowfall so far. (next to station names). YXU has not been updating snowfall amounts yet, hoping to solve that (we found the data available last year). For the time being I will estimate their totals based on any clues available, but I hope to get an accurate total at the end of the contest. (just read on the subforum that observers may not be assigned this winter but there may be automated amounts, we'll perhaps have to judge the contest without YXU but anyway will estimate for now, also looking for an observer near YXU). Table of forecasts for 2017-18 snowfall contest This table will be "frozen" as of end of December, and a new post will track January snowfalls. Red numbers indicate total seasonal snowfall to Dec 31 ... any Nov snow in orange next to station name and if there was October snow that is shown with two orange numbers for October and November, for example at GRR and MQT ... these are both monthly totals, the second number is the Nov snowfall not the combined Oct-Nov snowfall ... but the red number is seasonal combined total, so Dec snow is therefore the red number minus the orange number(s) if there are any. November trace amounts not shown in the table, occurred at CMH, and for Oct and Nov in DTW, FWA, IND, LSE, MLI, PIA and STL and there was a trace of snow in ORD, MKE, GRB in October before measurable amounts in Nov, and in MQT in September before measurable amounts in Oct and Nov. LOC ___ to date __ MIN (-50%) ____________________8615 avg __ ConA _________________MAX (+50%)____ APN _0.5__ 14.6*__________ 72 RS_DM VP CI CM ST SP 80.4 TH MA 85.3 _HA MI DA IT IW,CY 105 ORD _0.1___ 5.4_________ 27.6 DM_ CM,RS TH _HA ST 38.1 SP,CI,VP 40.0 CY _ MA MI DA _____ IW __ IT 65 CLE _0.8_17.0_45.3 DM CI ST CM TH IT VP RS59.2HA MI 67.2 CY SP,IW MA ___ DA 89.7 CMH ___ 8.1_14.7 DM_CM ST RS,MA __TH_25.1 CI MI VP 28.4 SP,IT,HA DA CY IW 34 DTW ____________ 22.5 _______ 30.5 DM_ VP RS,SP CM 44.8 CI,HA MA CY TH 49.3 _IW _ST MI __ DA ______ IT 83 FWA ________ 11.4 __________ 22.2 TH __CM RS DM MA 34.0 HA SP 36.9 DA MI VP ST,CI,IW CY IT 47 GRR _0.4,0.2______33.5 ______57.8 DM_ST TH CM CI 77.1 SP RS,HA 80.3 MA DA MI CY, VP IW __ IT 106 GRB _0.6_12.6_37 VP TH DM CM,RS CY DA CI SP 52.1ST MI54.2 HA __ IW MA _______________________ IT 84 IND ___ 3.9 ___11 RS DM _ CM,CY HA MA,ST DA 23.5 MI 25.9 SP TH CI, VP IW IT 35 LSE _4.4___31.7 DM RS VP,CI,CY,ST DA TH43.7SP,HA,CM46.1 MI _MA IW __________________________ IT 81 YXU ______24.0_______ 55 CM VP _ CY,CI MA ST,TH DM 75.7 SP 77.9 RS,HA IW DA __ MI ________________ IT 145 SDF _ 0.2 ________7 CY_ MA ST,CI DM TH RS MI CM 13.1_13.9 IW,SP,HA DA ____ VP _______________________ IT 29 MQT 8.8,16.1_63.0_142 CI_ST DM CM RS TH VP MA192.4_199.8 SP HA IT IW DA MI CY 233 MKE _0.2_4.8__35 DM,RS VP CM CY TH MA ST,CI 45.9DA SP49.2 HA MI __ IW ___________ IT 71 MSP 0.1,0.6_7.1__29 CI_ST VP RS DM CY HA,CM 48.1 DA SP 50.6 MA MI _ IW TH ___________________ IT 87 MLI ____ 9.6 _14 DM__RS CY,HA, CM VP TH DA30.9 CI ST SP33.5 MI __ MA IW _____________________ IT 58 PAH _ Tr ____4 CI ___ ST _MA ______ TH _ HA ___ MI _ CM 9.2 _ 10.9 RS,CY SP,IW DM ___ DA ____ VP ______ IT 23 PIA ____ 7.4_8.9 DM___RS __ ST,HA CM _MA VP 24.0=SP 24.9 MI TH CY DA _ IW _______ CI ____ IT 40 STL __3.5_10 HA,CM_MA,DM ST TH RS MI IW,VP DA SP18.118.4__ CY CI _____________________________>> IT 52 YYZ _________ 15.9____ 27 IW ____ RS __ TH __ CI,CM,SP 42.5 HA DM ST,MA 46.8 CY DA VP _ MI ________>> IT 104 Total snow to date __ 268.9" (27%) 31st _ Amounts are now updated through end of December. For YXU I am using the closest reliable snowfall in a similar zone relative to the Lake Huron snowbelt, namely Tillsonburg which is 40 km east of London (YXU not measuring snow this winter). So far 60.5 cm there (about 24 inches, seems to be about what one might expect for YXU which is usually similar to GRR for lake effect, but gets similar synoptic snow to YYZ or DTW). The contest will be scored both with and without this YXU alternative data. ... highest percentages of normal so far at ... DTW (50), GRR (44), YYZ (38), FWA (33), YXU (32), MQT (31), PIA (29), MLI (29), CMH (27), CLE (25), GRB (24), STL (20), APN (18), and , ORD (14) and MSP (14), IND (13), MKE (10), LSE (9), SDF (2), PAH (0). * APN provisionally 0.4 for 24th (.04 LE and temps cold enough for snow, GRB 10:1 ratio on similar amount 0.3") will be adjusted if amount posted, and this amount will be retained for contest if not. As of Jan 1, 2018, this issue had not been resolved on Dec CF6. Forecasters and snow totals, tie-breakers ... bold is current leader for Dec (ORD) code _ FORECASTER __ SNOW TOTAL ______T-1 __ T-2 __ T-3 ___ (actual T-1 to date) DM ____ dmc76 ________ 787.6 __________ 2.3 __ 3.8 __ 6.8 CM ____ cmillzz ________ 841.0 __________ 4.2 __ 8.2 _ 15.0 RS ____ Roger Smith ____ 851.0 __________ 6.5 __ 3.5 _ 17.2 ST ____ Stebo __________882.5 __________ 7.0 __ 8.0 _ 13.5 CI ____ Central Illinois ___ 883.5 __________ 9.0 _11.0 __ 9.5 TH ____ Thomp2mp _____ 915.2 __________13.1 _ 4.5 _ 18.0 VP ____ VPBob21 _______ 943.0 ___________ 6.5 _13.6 _ 9.9 HA ____ Hawkeye_wx ___ 995.0 ___________ 7.0 __ 9.0 _13.0 MA ____ Madwx ________ 999.5 __________ 10.2 __ 6.3 _ 9.2 c avg __ Contest average _1003.5 __________ 8.2 __ 7.7 _13.3 ______ 5.3 (final) SP ____ Slow poke ______1012.0 __________ 8.0 __ 8.0 __ 8.0 8615 _1986-2015 avg _1013.9 ________ 8.5 __8.6_10.2 CY ____ Cyclone77 ______ 1052.0 _________ 6.4 __ 5.0 _16.8 MI ____ michsnowfreak __ 1111.0 _________ 9.8 __ 9.0 _12.1 DA ____ DAFF __________ 1128.3 ________ 10.2 __ 8.1 _13.3 IW ____ IWXwx _________1145.0 _________ 8.5 _ 11.0 _16.5 IT ____ IndTenn ________ 1506.0 _________15.0 __ 6.0 _20.0 First tie-breaker was a tie with cmilzz 1.1" below ORD (5.3") in Dec and cyclone77 1.1" above. On to the second tie-breaker. (added Dec 21 _ copy of excel file of entries _ checked against your posts, no errors found, these are a check against late edits_ may be hard to read but mainly for contest integrity). I have attempted to make this column-oriented, the raw output looked different (as in non-aligned). Validated Contest Entries Locn__8615____ ST RS CY MA IW CI DM SL TH __ DA___ MI___ IT__ HA__VP_ CM_ c-avg_%norm_ MAX_ MIN_ APN 80.4_____77 72 105 85 105 74 72.6 80 81.1 97.6 92.1 100 90 73 75 85.3 106 105 72 ORD 38.1_____37 30 41 44 54 39 27.6 39 30.5 44.9 44.6 65 35 39 30 40.0 105 65 27.6 CLE 67.2_____47 55 69 72 70 46 45.3 70 48.5 89.7 64.4 50 60 53 48 59.2 88 89.7 45.3 CMH 28.4_____18 20 31 20 34 26 14.7 30 22.0 30.1 27.0 30 30 28 15 25.1 88 34 14.7 DTW 44.8_____55 40 48 46 52 45 30.5 40 49.1 69.2 55.4 83 45 38 43 49.3 110 83 30.5 FWA 34.0_____42 30 45 33 42 42 32.2 36 22.2 38.0 39.9 47 35 41 28 36.9 108 47 22.2 GRR 77.1_____68 80 90 83 91 71 57.8 78 69.6 83.1 86.8 106 80 90 70 80.3 104 106 57.8 GRB 54.2_____53 45 47 62 60 51 43.3 52 42.4 50.3 53.3 84 56 37 45 52.1 96 84 37 IND 25.9_____22 11 19 22 32 31 11.6 26 27.0 22.1 24.4 35 20 31 19 23.5 91 35 11 LSE 46.1_____35 34 35 51 52 35 31.7 45 42.1 41.2 47.7 81 45 35 45 43.7 _95 81 31.7 YXU 75.7_____70 80 64 68 81 64 73 _76 70.0 87.3 95.9 145 80 59 55 77.9 103 145 55 SDF 13.9_____8.5 10 7 7.5 15 8.5 9.7 15 _ 9.9 17.2 11.8 __ 29 15 21 12 13.1 __ 95 29 7 MQT 199.8____157 176 233 188 220 142 167.5 200 182.5 222.3 223.4 _216 _205 186 168 _192.4__ 96 233 142 MKE 49.2_____45 35 41 44 55 45 35.0 48 42.7 47.2 51.1 _ 71 50 38 40 45.9 __93 71 35 MSP 50.6_____34 38 43 52 57 29 42.5 50 59.8 49.9 52.6 __87 45 37 45 48.1 __ 95 87 29 MLI 33.5_____32 22 25 38 39 31 14.0 33 29 30.2 __34.5 __58 25 28 25 30.9 __ 92 58 14 PAH 09.2_____ 5 11 11 5.5 12 4 12.6 12 7.7 14.3 __ 8.8 ___23 __8 20 __9 10.9 119 23 _ 4 PIA 24.9_____18 12 28 21 30 37 8.9 _24 27.1 28.3 __ 25.7 __40 18 23 19 24.0 __ 96 40 8.9 STL 18.4_____14 15 22 12.5 17 23 12.5 _18 14.5 17.2 __16.1 _ 52 10 17 10 18.1 _ 98 52 10 YYZ 42.5_____45 35 48 45 27 40 44.6 _40 37.5 48.2 _55.5 _ 104 43 49 40 46.8 110 104 27 totsn 1013.9_882.5_851_1052_999.5 1145 883.5_787.6 1012 915.2 1128.3 1111 1506_ 995_943_ 841_1003.5__99_ 1506_787.6 Locn__8615____ST RS CY MA IW CI DM SL TH __ DA___ MI___ IT__ HA__VP_ CM_ c-avg_ %norm_ MAX_ MIN_ Tie 1 8.5_____ 7 6.5 6.4 10.2 8.5 9 2.3 8 13.1 __ 10.2__ 9.8__ 15 7 6.5 4.2 __ 8.2 __ 96 15.0 2.3 Tie 2 8.6_____ 8 3.5 5.0 6.3 11 11 3.8 8 4.5 ___ 8.1__ 9.0__ 6 9 13.6 8.2 __ 7.7__ 89 13.6 3.5 Tie 3 10.2___13.5 17.2 16.8 _9.2 16.5 9.5 6.8 8 18.0 __ 13.3__ 12.1_ 20 13 9.9 15.0 __ 13.3__ 130 20.0 6.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 The January update that was in this post has been moved to end of the thread (as of Jan 19th). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 Some milestones were passed on Jan 12th ... (a) All contest locations now have measurable snow, PAH not only joined the party but moved instantly to third place in terms of percentage of contest normal (47%) behind only DTW and GRR. (b) We have the first instance of an actual snowfall passing a minimum contest snowfall, that being the 4.3" at PAH moving past minimum forecast from CI of 4.0". PIA has been close for several days (8.7" actual, 8.9" minimum forecast). (c) One third of normal total snowfall has now been reached. Note: January daily updates continue in what used to be the previous post, now moved to end of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Roger Smith said: Some milestones were passed on Jan 12th ... (a) All contest locations now have measurable snow, PAH not only joined the party but moved instantly to third place in terms of percentage of contest normal (47%) behind only DTW and GRR. (b) We have the first instance of an actual snowfall passing a minimum contest snowfall, that being the 4.3" at PAH moving past minimum forecast from CI of 4.0". PIA has been close for several days (8.7" actual, 8.9" minimum forecast). (c) One third of normal total snowfall has now been reached. Oh hell no, Paducah is not going to catch us after 1 snowfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Snow added since midnight has moved CMH back into third place and dropped PAH to fourth (in percentage of total contest normal snowfall). And this has brought CMH closer to DMC76's prediction of 14.7", the contest minimum, so the count now is one station passed (PAH), and two (CMH, PIA) open to being passed with any minor snow event. (since I posted this, PIA has moved past the minimum forecast of 8.9" sitting at 9.3" now and CMH has moved past two forecasts to 15.1"). After those three, the stations that are closest to passing our minimum forecast are MLI (at 10.0, contest minimum 14") and DTW (at 26.1", contest minimum 30.5"), then IND where actual 5.5" is half the minimum forecast of 11.0" ... some stations are still nowhere close to even our minimum (let alone normal), notably ORD, MKE, and LSE, with MSP trailing almost as badly. Will have to find out (perhaps in other threads) how ORD is doing compared to all-time low seasonal totals, sitting at a meagre 5.5" to date, MKE even worse at 4.9" and LSE only 5.7". (these all added some snow after this was posted, LSE now 10.7"). Note that the January snowfalls are being updated more or less daily (when snow happens) in a post that is now as of Jan 19th at the end of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 6:39 AM, michsnowfreak said: Oh hell no, Paducah is not going to catch us after 1 snowfall At 4 p.m. I said ... Nope, it took two -- PAH now in the lead at 77% of contest normal (1986-2015), DTW now second at 60%, MKE despite adding some today trails the field at 15%. As of end of the day, PAH added another four inches of snow and is the first station to move past its contest normal value, now at 113%. CMH has edged ahead of DTW 61-60 but DTW may have an incomplete total for the 15th, so that could change again. And MKE still lags behind the rest, but is now at 21% just ahead of SDF now at 23%. The entire contest list of 20 stations has seen 40% of their normal winter snowfall now. Northern IL and southern WI appear to be running 20-30% and MI-ON about 50-60%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Now that everyone has caught up with their snow reporting, CMH and DTW are tied for second place in percentage of normal snow at 63% way behind leader PAH at 113%. The lowest percentage is now 24% at ORD as MKE edged ahead of them and also second last place MSP (25%). Overall 42% of the contest normal snowfall (1986-2015) has been received in the grid and MQT is not distorting that at 43% although they represent about one fifth of the total snowfall (86/412). Second in absolute terms is GRR at 44 inches, then YXU sub Tillsonburg has 36 inches, and DTW at 28 is ahead of both Alpena (27) and Cleveland (26). Daily updates in the table about five posts back (scroll, scroll). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomp2mp Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Not to be nit-picky, but is there any easier way to read these standings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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