CoraopolisWx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, north pgh said: Wow!! If anyone is still up this band was much stronger than the last. I had winds over 40-45 est and looked outside to a complete whiteout. Roads and everything is white. Suiting up now Mabey I'll finally see Santa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I completely missed out on the first band like I thought I would. I'm at least getting in on the second one and there's another behind this one. Windy and snowy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just went out. Solid inch and still snowing and blowing. Hope everyone gets hit with this band as hard as I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Woooooooow that's was awesome. Whiteout conditions and extremely heavy snow. Glad I'm sobering up and didn't fall asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Wow!! If anyone is still up this band was much stronger than the last. I had winds over 40-45 est and looked outside to a complete whiteout. Roads and everything is white.Had a nice burst in the south hills too. I used my weather flow device and got a 25 mph gust. Also had white out. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 A few gusts were probably 35-40 mph here, had to come in after about 5 minutes. Lol Glad I'm off tomorrow, probably would've missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 I just saw there was a lightning strike on radar in monroeville. Maybe meatwad heard it. Well I have to get some sleep. It looks like some more lesser bands are developing in Ohio. Maybe I can get 2 inches by morning. Merry Christmas and those of us that dreamed for one this year got it. Now here's hoping we can get a 12+ snowstorm in Jan or feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, north pgh said: I just saw there was a lightning strike on radar in monroeville. Maybe meatwad heard it. Well I have to get some sleep. It looks like some more lesser bands are developing in Ohio. Maybe I can get 2 inches by morning. Merry Christmas and those of us that dreamed for one this year got it. Now here's hoping we can get a 12+ snowstorm in Jan or feb. Well, I'm glad some of you other guys got lucky tonight. I haven't so far. I got a quick dusting from the second band. I know you guys said we don't need an inch for a White Christmas, but I think we need more than a very light dusting. lol I'm hoping the next one about to come through gives me something decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, blackngoldrules said: Well, I'm glad some of you other guys got lucky tonight. I haven't so far. I got a quick dusting from the second band. I know you guys said we don't need an inch for a White Christmas, but I think we need more than a very light dusting. lol I'm hoping the next one about to come through gives me something decent. You might be in decent shape with the next wave of snow showers. The orientation is more E-W, for what looks like periods of moderate snow. I think everyone in the metro ends up with at least 1". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 30 minutes ago, CoraopolisWx said: You might be in decent shape with the next wave of snow showers. The orientation is more E-W, for what looks like periods of moderate snow. I think everyone in the metro ends up with at least 1". It's not looking like it for me. I'm in Bethel Park but near the border of Washington County. I've seen a couple of quick moderate snow showers move through and that's about it. Even most of what's moving through now is just staying to my north. I doubt I'm getting an inch tonight. I have a coating now between the two snow showers I've gotten. I'm just in a really bad spot tonight. I've been seeing more of the holes in between the snow showers. I call it the Bethel Park snow hole. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, blackngoldrules said: It's not looking like it for me. I'm in Bethel Park but near the border of Washington County. I've seen a couple of quick moderate snow showers move through and that's about it. Even most of what's moving through now is just staying to my north. I doubt I'm getting an inch tonight. I have a coating now between the two snow showers I've gotten. I'm just in a really bad spot tonight. I've been seeing more of the holes in between the snow showers. I call it the Bethel Park snow hole. lol Maybe I have a half inch out there after Yeah, you're probably right. Looks like you get grazed just to the north. That kinda sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Still up at this very late hour. Looks like I have another shot at some snow moving through. Maybe I'll be near an inch if I'm lucky. Looks like the North Hills is the sweet spot for this one. Someone may end up with a few inches or more in one of those areas. Moderate to heavy snow continues to train through those areas as I type this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Merry Christmas to all on here. With an official 1.6 in at the airport, it is a white one. Safe travels to all who have to. Here’s to a new year of tracking snowstorms. May there be a monster lurking for us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 hours ago, MikeB_01 said: Merry Christmas to all on here. With an official 1.6 in at the airport, it is a white one. Safe travels to all who have to. Here’s to a new year of tracking snowstorms. May there be a monster lurking for us.. . Hard to tell with the wind, but probably a half inch, maybe a little more. It was enough to whiten the ground and there has been flurries on and off all morning so I'm counting it as a victory. Fell asleep so not sure what the bands did or if I missed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 12 hours ago, Mailman said: Wonder when we'll be above freezing again. Probably 2 hour before the next significant precipitation event lol Looks like Friday is the next shot at some snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, RitualOfTheTrout said: Probably 2 hour before the next significant precipitation event lol Looks like Friday is the next shot at some snow. 12z Euro likes a possible 3-6” type event Friday night into Saturday morning. Hopefully it’s still there Thursday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, CoraopolisWx said: 12z Euro likes a possible 3-6” type event Friday night into Saturday morning. Hopefully it’s still there Thursday night. Better than getting fringed like I was thinking would happen before. I don't take cold storms for granted after living in Virginia my whole life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, olafminesaw said: Better than getting fringed like I was thinking would happen before. I don't take cold storms for granted after living in Virginia my whole life. Right now it's a pure Northern stream deal, previous runs that fringed us had some phasing with the southern stream. If it stays northern stream only our risk is either it not digging enough and we miss to the north or it gets shredded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Interesting record for Erie and PA: From NWS Service Cleveland......Erie, PA picked up 19" of new snow from midnight to 6 AM. This brings the storm total to 53" over the past 30 hours, shattering many records. This is the greatest 2-day total in the entire state of PA (prev. record 44" in Morgantown, PA 3/20-21/1958). We were up as far as I-79 and I-80 last night and they have just as much snow as we do here. Must be confined to close to Lake Erie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 This is exactly what we want. Every solution where the southern stream takes over is too far south, which is to be expected with the cold pushing so far south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 We take, and we run: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Ratios should be better than 10:1, so we should all get 3"+ out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 This is exactly what we want. Every solution where the southern stream takes over is too far south, which is to be expected with the cold pushing so far south.I’m not near my computer, what does the surface map look like? 500 vort looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 The main difference resides in the jet stream: GFS: Canadian: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Getting a little light snow here at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO60 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I’m new to this forum, and weather forecasting in general. Can any of you tell me what the difference is between all of these models? Also, I usually check the weather channel or accuweather for the forecast but I’ve noticed tremendous discrepancies between the two. Which is more reliable? Thank you for your help and here’s to a new year filled with happiness and snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 44 minutes ago, BigO60 said: I’m new to this forum, and weather forecasting in general. Can any of you tell me what the difference is between all of these models? Also, I usually check the weather channel or accuweather for the forecast but I’ve noticed tremendous discrepancies between the two. Which is more reliable? Thank you for your help and here’s to a new year filled with happiness and snow! Welcome! The models are funded from various agencies around the world. They all take data inputs from around the globe and run the information through advanced equations in an attempt to model the atmosphere. We don't have anywhere near 100% data input, the equations aren't perfectly accurate, and other variables like effects from space can quickly cause a change in the state of the atmosphere at any given time, so the further you get out in time the more these imperfections get magnified. A much more details explanation can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerical_weather_prediction Generally the ECMWF gets the highest verification scores, but it has limited free access, although recently weather.us started providing quite a few products from this model for free. GFS in run by NCEP and is typically the second best model but all products are available for free.The CMC is run by Envormental Canada. The UKMET is run out of the UK, but getting output can be tricky as its not widely available. Generally you want to see some consensus between models to give higher confidence in a forecast. As for Weather Channel vs AccuWeather, I'm not sure which is better, to some degree they are both going to sue automated processes to generate forecasts. I honestly read the NWS discussion and if I am feeling lazy, just tune into a local news website or weather segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Have a light dusting on everything. A pleasant surprise (guess I should've read the AFDs earlier today). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Mailman said: Have a light dusting on everything. A pleasant surprise (guess I should've read the AFDs earlier today). I wondered if you were going to see some flakes from that little wave. Most of the Christmas snow around here has sublimated away so hoping we can get a couple of inches before the next arctic blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 What appears to be the snow equivalent of mist is falling. I imagine there's not enough lift for more organized crystals to form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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