dryslot Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 55 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Briefly on Weds just before front. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk lol, We won't even reach 50, Captain and Eggnog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 lol, We won't even reach 50, Captain and Eggnog?Nah, a mix of red and white wine. Local met was spewing the temps. I should know better that they're often wrongSent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Higgins beach sunset this afternoon. Quite a few surfers out there.That is a fantastic picSent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Man they'll let anybody give a soundbite: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20171204-how-bomb-cyclones-can-let-us-peer-deep-inside-the-earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Does this mean I'm an internationally renowned meteorologist now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dryslot Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Man they'll let anybody give a soundbite: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20171204-how-bomb-cyclones-can-let-us-peer-deep-inside-the-earth Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, dryslot said: Awesome! Bloody awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 bomb cyclone? oh boy, I can't wait for the Dawn Awakening to the Bomb Cyclone, CAPE COD MA USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 EEK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, OceanStWx said: Does this mean I'm an internationally renowned meteorologist now? Very cool , I remembered this article https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/hurricane-sandy-generated-seismic-shaking-as-far-away-as-seattle-25993081/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 5:15 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Well it just shows those fake cold radiators have nothing to do with leaves. Truthfully, I think it has more to do with colder daytime temps Maybe, but on our trip to SNJ over T-Day weekend I noted little difference in leaf retention on oaks whether hilltop or valley. Once I got south of Augusta, all seemed unusually leafy for late November. And since hilltops generally catch more wind, I'd expect them to show a bit more drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Q for those who know roofing... I'm putting some metal roofing up on a portion of my chicken run...6 12'x3' panels giving me 12'x18' of coverage. I plan to keep up with the snow removal for any snow that doesn't slide off. My question is, what should I use for purlins and what should my spacing be if my 2'x6' rafters are spaced 26" OC? Should the purlins be PT since they would somewhat be in contact with the elements (fog, drizzle, etc)? Maybe only the top few rows with PT? This will be a slanted roof...8' high on the south side and slanting to 6' high on the north side. My plan was to go with 2"x4" purlins spaced 18" OC, but wondered if I could get away with the 1"x3" or 1"x4"s. Since there's no plywood underneath to help spread the load I figured the 2"x4"s would be a better bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Did anyone know the NAM is going to be discontinued? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, weatherwiz said: Did anyone know the NAM is going to be discontinued? Yes. All focus is going on the NGGPS. That means no more model upgrades in the meantime as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I think I mentioned earlier too, that MOS will be going away as well. Clearly if the NAM goes away so does the MET, but with the new model core MAV will be meaningless too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, OceanStWx said: I think I mentioned earlier too, that MOS will be going away as well. Clearly if the NAM goes away so does the MET, but with the new model core MAV will be meaningless too. Forecasts are about to get a lot worse when that happens. Lots of lazy mets like deer in headlights looking for their MOS numbers to munch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Yes. All focus is going on the NGGPS. That means no more model upgrades in the meantime as well. We had someone from IBM come and speak to our mesoscale class today and he mentioned this. I can't say I am very surprised really...better to spend the resources into other means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, dendrite said: Q for those who know roofing... I'm putting some metal roofing up on a portion of my chicken run...6 12'x3' panels giving me 12'x18' of coverage. I plan to keep up with the snow removal for any snow that doesn't slide off. My question is, what should I use for purlins and what should my spacing be if my 2'x6' rafters are spaced 26" OC? Should the purlins be PT since they would somewhat be in contact with the elements (fog, drizzle, etc)? Maybe only the top few rows with PT? This will be a slanted roof...8' high on the south side and slanting to 6' high on the north side. My plan was to go with 2"x4" purlins spaced 18" OC, but wondered if I could get away with the 1"x3" or 1"x4"s. Since there's no plywood underneath to help spread the load I figured the 2"x4"s would be a better bet. You should just run 1x3 strapping across the rafters, 18" OC, 2x4 would be over kill if you give it enough roof pitch, It should unload if it has any southerly exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, dendrite said: Forecasts are about to get a lot worse when that happens. Lots of lazy mets like deer in headlights looking for their MOS numbers to munch. I very rarely use MOS. I try to use mixing heights to make my high forecasts but that process can be rather difficult. I refer to MOS alot but I don't get why so many live and die by it and use it for forecasting without even looking at guidance and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 what is GPPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, weatherwiz said: what is GPPS https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/fv3/ Nextgen GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, dendrite said: Forecasts are about to get a lot worse when that happens. Lots of lazy mets like deer in headlights looking for their MOS numbers to munch. I believe the plan is to create a MOS-like product based on the national blend of models. So there will be a rip and reader equivalent. It is going to be the end of an era for sure though, considering how well we all know MOS biases. I hope the MOS version of the NBM is better than the raw output I've seen so far, because it does not handle low levels temps well in our wedged in scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/fv3/ Nextgen GFS ahhh that makes perfect sense! When he said the NAM was being phased out he mentioned that the biggest competitor to the GFS was the Euro and if we put more resources into the GFS and such perhaps it can become a much more superior model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, dryslot said: You should just run 1x3 strapping across the rafters, 18" OC, 2x4 would be over kill if you give it enough roof pitch, It should unload if it has any southerly exposure. It slopes S to N so there will be little sun hitting it this time of year. Come summer the angle will be high enough to create some shadows. My trig tells me the angle is only about 10deg from the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, weatherwiz said: ahhh that makes perfect sense! When he said the NAM was being phased out he mentioned that the biggest competitor to the GFS was the Euro and if we put more resources into the GFS and such perhaps it can become a much more superior model Still not 4DVAR, so we'll see how it stacks up to the ECMWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, weatherwiz said: ahhh that makes perfect sense! When he said the NAM was being phased out he mentioned that the biggest competitor to the GFS was the Euro and if we put more resources into the GFS and such perhaps it can become a much more superior model 4dvar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, dendrite said: It slopes S to N so there will be little sun hitting it this time of year. Come summer the angle will be high enough to create some shadows. My trig tells me the angle is only about 10deg from the ground. A 6/12 pitch would work out in that case, Similar to what i did here with my wood shed................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: EEK That is awesome. Be sure to check out the directors other videos at the end including, "The Making of The Man Show Tribute", and "The Man Show Tribute". Very educational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, dryslot said: A 6/12 pitch would work out in that case, Similar to what i did here with my wood shed................. how much wood can you get in there? looks like ~1 cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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