November 2017 Discussions & Observations Thread

[uncle W]

1 minute ago, sferic said:

But like you know every day in December 1989 had a low of 32 or lower...has that ever happened for NYC ever ?

no...only time...

total monthly minimums 32 or lower...total minimums 32 or lower...consecutive days with a minimum 32 or lower...total days with a max 32 or lower...consecutive days with a max 32 or lower...

year.........Oct...Nov...Dec...Jan...Feb...Mar...Apr...Total min/con...total max/con

2017-18......0.......4 as of 11/23

2016-17......0.......0.....11.....12.....12.....14.......0.....49.....8.....11.....3

2015-16......0.......1.......0.....21.....14.......7.......3.....46.....9.....10.....4

2014-15......0.......7.......9.....25.....28.....16.......1.....86...38.....26.....5

2013-14......0.......9.....19.....24.....21.....19.......1.....93...16.....33.....7

2012-13......0.......3.......8.....18.....17.....14.......0.....60...11.....15.....6

2011-12......0.......0.....10.....13.....10.......4.......0.....37.....5.......6.....2

2010-11......0.......0.....25.....28.....19.....11.......0.....83...18.....22.....4

 

2009-10......0.......0.....17.....22.....22.......2.......0.....63...23.....17.....3

2008-09......0.......6.....19.....30.....20.....11.......0.....86...26.....22.....3

2007-08......0.......3.....14.....20.....18.......7.......0.....62...14.......6.....2

2006-07......0.......0.......6.....18.....24.....11.......4.....63...36.....18.....9

2005-06......0.......5.....20.....10.....18.....14.......0.....67...14.......9.....2

2004-05......0.......5.....15.....17.....20.....14.......0.....71...29.....18.....9

2003-04......0.......1.....17.....26.....21.....10.......3.....78...20.....26.....9

2002-03......0.......3.....18.....28.....21.....13.......3.....86...22.....31...12

2001-02......0.......0.......9.....11.....15.......9.......3.....47...12.......3.....2

2000-01......0.......6.....29.....23.....18.....13.......0.....89...22.....20...13

 

1999-00......0.......1.....10.....22.....18.......4.......1.....56...28.....18.....7

1998-99......0.......0.......8.....20.....13.....11.......0.....52...18.....13.....3

1997-98......0.......8.....10.....13.......9.......9.......0.....49.....4.......3.....2

1996-97......0.......8.......7.....25.....14.....12.......3.....69...14.....11.....3

1995-96......0.......8.....24.....24.....18.....15.......0.....89...15.....30.....9

1994-95......0.......3.....10.....19.....20.......5.......3.....60...14.....11.....5

1993-94......0.......3.....15.....29.....24.....13.......0.....84...26.....31.....5

1992-93......0.......5.....13.....21.....27.....14.......0.....80...22.......7.....3

1991-92......0.......2.....15.....19.....15.....16.......1.....68...14.......9.....2

1990-91......0.......2.....11.....20.....14.......6.......1.....54.....8.......7.....1

 

1989-90......0.......9.....31.....10.....15.......9.......0.....74...33.....19.....9

1988-89......1.......1.....19.....16.....21.....13.......0.....71...11.....19.....3

1987-88......0.......5.......9.....24.....23.....11.......0.....72...16.....19.....7

1986-87......0.......6.....10.....23.....23.....11.......1.....74...19.....11.....5

1985-86......0.......0.....23.....21.....21.......9.......0.....74...12.....19.....4

1984-85......0.......5.......6.....28.....18.....10.......2.....69...35.....18.....5

1983-84......0.......1.....17.....26.....10.....13.......0.....67...19.....29.....8

1982-83......0.......4.....10.....18.....14.......7.......0.....53...12.....13.....4

1981-82......0.......2.....15.....26.....20.......9.......5.....77...24.....20.....6

1980-81......0.......2.....24.....27.....14.....12.......0.....79...24.....30...11

 

1979-80......0.......1.....12.....22.....24.....10.......1.....70...31.....19.....5

1978-79......0.......3.....15.....20.....21.......8.......1.....68...22.....26...11

1977-78......0.......4.....15.....27.....27.....13.......1.....87...22.....42...12

1976-77......2.....11.....25.....31.....17.......7.......3.....96...51.....45.....9

1975-76......1.......0.....21.....30.....14.......8.......2.....76...26.....20.....3

1974-75......3.......7.....12.....16.....16.....15.......6.....75...17.......8.....2

1973-74......0.......2.....16.....20.....24.....12.......2.....76...15.....23.....3

1972-73......1.......7.......9.....17.....21.......3.......0.....57.....9.....13.....4

1971-72......0.......5.....12.....18.....23.....16.......4.....78...11.....17.....5

1970-71......0.......4.....21.....29.....12.....12.......0.....78...16.....25.....5

 

1969-70......2.......5.....24.....30.....21.....14.......1.....97...45.....27.....6

1968-69......0.......1.....22.....22.....21.....15.......1.....82...27.....18.....3

1967-68......0.......9.....14.....24.....26.....13.......1.....87...27.....22.....9

1966-67......0.......2.....22.....19.....25.....16.......3.....86...15.....25.....6

1965-66......1.......3.....10.....22.....21.....10.......0.....67...17.....14.....2

1964-65......0.......4.....18.....28.....19.......9.......1.....79...27.....22.....5

1963-64......0.......0.....22.....16.....25.......9.......3.....75...22.....18.....7

1962-63......0.......4.....22.....23.....25.......8.......0.....82...21.....29.....7

1961-62......0.......5.....20.....24.....22.......7.......0.....78...16.....16.....4

1960-61......0.......3.....26.....27.....14.......8.......0.....78...26.....27...16

 

1959-60......0.......6.....12.....24.....20.....26.......0.....88...20.....15.....3

1958-59......0.......3.....28.....24.....21.....17.......0.....93...23.....26...10

1957-58......0.......3.......9.....21.....22.......3.......1.....59...17.....20...12

1956-57......0.......7.....12.....26.....19.......9.......0.....73...12.....12.....6

1955-56......0.......8.....26.....25.....16.....17.......0.....92...19.....23.....4

1954-55......0.......1.....17.....28.....17.....14.......0.....77...33.....16.....4

1953-54......0.......1.......9.....26.....10.....13.......3.....62...16.....15.....4

1952-53......0.......2.....12.....19.....16.......9.......0.....58.....8.......2.....1

1951-52......0.....11.....19.....20.....19.....14.......0.....83...19.....13.....3

1950-51......0.......3.....19.....19.....17.......9.......0.....67...18.....12.....3

 

1949-50......0.......5.....16.....12.....21.....21.......8.....83...18.....12.....3

1948-49......0.......0.....14.....17.....16.....15.......0.....62.....9.......9.....4

1947-48......0.......4.....25.....29.....24.....13.......1.....96...26.....33...10

1946-47......0.......2.....16.....18.....26.....20.......0.....82...18.....12.....5

1945-46......0.......6.....24.....22.....24.......3.......0.....79...18.....24.....9

1944-45......0.......5.....23.....30.....22.......6.......0.....84...36.....25.....5

1943-44......0.......7.....22.....24.....23.....16.......4.....96...16.....17.....3

1942-43......0.......5.....24.....26.....20.....12.......9.....96...13.....29.....5

1941-42......0.......1.....14.....24.....25.......0.......0.....64...16.....19.....6

1940-41......2.......7.....17.....26.....25.....24.......0...101...14.....16.....4

 

1939-40......0.......6.....16.....28.....22.....23.......4.....99...20.....29.....6

1938-39......0.......6.....19.....21.....15.....17.......2.....80...17.....18.....4

1937-38......0.......4.....18.....24.....18.....11.......2.....77...15.....16.....4

1936-37......2.....13.....15.....14.....22.....19.......0.....85...12.....10.....2

1935-36......0.......3.....21.....23.....25.......7.......1.....80...31.....39...12

1934-35......0.......3.....21.....22.....21.....11.......1.....79...12.....24.....5

1933-34......2.....12.....16.....20.....28.....21.......0.....99...36.....38.....9

1932-33......0.......7.....13.....11.....20.....11.......0.....62...11.....13.....4

1931-32......0.......3.....17.......4.....17.....18.......1.....60...12.......5.....2

1930-31......0.......7.....18.....21.....20.......9.......0.....75...15.....12.....3

 

1929-30......0.......5.....18.....20.....18.....10.......2.....73...12.....25.....8

1928-29......1.......3.....14.....27.....19.......8.......0.....72...18.....15.....4

1927-28......0.......4.....17.....19.....20.....18.......1.....79...15.....20.....5

1926-27......0.......7.....28.....23.....16.....10.......0.....84...14.....24.....6

1925-26......3.......9.....19.....21.....25.....20.......5...102...11.....27.....4

1924-25......0.......9.....22.....30.....13.......7.......2.....83...32.....22.....2

1923-24......0.......3.....10.....24.....28.....16.......2.....83...29.....17.....4

1922-23......0.......9.....20.....28.....26.....20.......4...107...24.....31.....6

1921-22......0.......4.....23.....28.....19.....12.......1.....87...13.....23.....6

1920-21......0.......5.....19.....21.....21.......4.......1.....71.....9.....10.....2

 

1919-20......0.......6.....26.....30.....27.....16.......4...109...25.....40.....7

1918-19......0.......3.....16.....17.....19.......9.......4.....68...12.......7.....3

1917-18......1.......7.....29.....31.....19.....12.......2...101...44.....45...10

1916-17......0.......6.....21.....22.....25.....15.......2.....91...20.....26.....6

1915-16......0.......3.....25.....20.....27.....23.......1.....99...47.....37.....6

1914-15......0.......9.....26.....21.....16.....23.......2.....97...25.....23.....7

1913-14......0.......2.....14.....22.....25.....19.......5.....77...38.....26.....7

1912-13......0.......4.....14.....15.....22.......9.......0.....64...15.....16.....6

1911-12......0.......8.....11.....30.....25.....16.......2.....92...26.....39.....8

1910-11......0.......2.....28.....18.....25.....19.......3.....95...18.....31.....5

 

1909-10......0.......1.....22.....25.....24.....10.......0.....82...19.....26.....6

1908-09......0.......5.....17.....19.....13.....16.......2.....72...10.....11.....2

1907-08......0.......0.......9.....25.....26.....14.......3.....77...22.....18.....4

1906-07......0.......2.....21.....17.....25.....12.......3.....80...17.....28.....5

1905-06......0.......5.....15.....12.....17.....22.......1.....72...15.....10.....2

1904-05......0.......5.....28.....25.....27.....13.......0.....98...30.....40.....8

1903-04......0.....11.....24.....29.....28.....19.......6...117...28.....47.....5

1902-03......0.......0.....20.....23.....19.......4.......2.....68...13.....23.....6

1901-02......0.....10.....15.....29.....24.......6.......0.....84...32.....34.....6

1900-01......0.......3.....16.....22.....28.....14.......0.....83...32.....30.....6

 

1899-00......0.......2.....15.....24.....22.....26.......5.....94...21.....22.....8

1898-99......0.......7.....17.....23.....20.....14.......6.....87...21.....23.....9

1897-98......0.......5.....16.....16.....13.......4.......5.....59...15.....12.....3

1896-97......0.......2.....19.....22.....18.....12.......2.....75...15.....24.....8

1895-96......0.......3.....17.....26.....22.....24.......5.....97...19.....31.....7

1894-95......0.......9.....12.....26.....27.....25.......3...102...41.....35.....9

1893-94......0.......9.....24.....25.....22.......8.......4.....92...14.....16.....3

1892-93......0.......9.....17.....30.....26.....18.......0...100...38.....41...13

1891-92......0.......6.....10.....26.....18.....21.......2.....83...13.....21.....3

1890-91......0.......7.....26.....21.....16.....15.......6.....92...11.....23.....4..... 1 min in May

 

1889-90......1.......6.....11.....21.....15.....19.......3.....76...10.....15.....3

1888-89......0.......9.....21.....17.....26.....11.......0.....84...20.....15.....3

1887-88......2.......8.....20.....31.....24.....23.......4...110...45.....44.....7

1886-87......0.......7.....24.....26.....22.....28.......8...115...28.....33.....5

1885-86......0.......6.....23.....25.....21.....15.......1.....91...22.....29...10

1884-85......0.......5.....16.....25.....28.....25.......3...102...34.....38.....8

1883-84......0.......9.....23.....28.....21.....15.......1.....97...16.....35.....6

1882-83......0.....14.....24.....29.....26.....25.......3...121...32.....39.....6

1881-82......0.......7.....13.....22.....19.....15.......4.....80...13.....21.....5

1880-81......0.....13.....27.....31.....24.....15.......6...111...56.....52...15

 

1879-80......2.....10.....18.....14.....18.....20.......5.....87...11.....12.....2

1878-79......0.......4.....22.....30.....26.....15.......4...101...43.....35.....6

1877-78......0.......8.....18.....22.....19.......7.......0.....74...12.....21.....6

1876-77......1.......2.....29.....29.....12.....18.......2.....93...23.....41.....9

[sferic]

Great data Uncle ! Thank you !

[Paragon]

4 minutes ago, uncle W said:

no...only time...

total monthly minimums 32 or lower...total minimums 32 or lower...consecutive days with a minimum 32 or lower...total days with a max 32 or lower...consecutive days with a max 32 or lower...

year.........Oct...Nov...Dec...Jan...Feb...Mar...Apr...Total min/con...total max/con

2017-18......0.......4 as of 11/23

2016-17......0.......0.....11.....12.....12.....14.......0.....49.....8.....11.....3

2015-16......0.......1.......0.....21.....14.......7.......3.....46.....9.....10.....4

2014-15......0.......7.......9.....25.....28.....16.......1.....86...38.....26.....5

2013-14......0.......9.....19.....24.....21.....19.......1.....93...16.....33.....7

2012-13......0.......3.......8.....18.....17.....14.......0.....60...11.....15.....6

2011-12......0.......0.....10.....13.....10.......4.......0.....37.....5.......6.....2

2010-11......0.......0.....25.....28.....19.....11.......0.....83...18.....22.....4

 

2009-10......0.......0.....17.....22.....22.......2.......0.....63...23.....17.....3

2008-09......0.......6.....19.....30.....20.....11.......0.....86...26.....22.....3

2007-08......0.......3.....14.....20.....18.......7.......0.....62...14.......6.....2

2006-07......0.......0.......6.....18.....24.....11.......4.....63...36.....18.....9

2005-06......0.......5.....20.....10.....18.....14.......0.....67...14.......9.....2

2004-05......0.......5.....15.....17.....20.....14.......0.....71...29.....18.....9

2003-04......0.......1.....17.....26.....21.....10.......3.....78...20.....26.....9

2002-03......0.......3.....18.....28.....21.....13.......3.....86...22.....31...12

2001-02......0.......0.......9.....11.....15.......9.......3.....47...12.......3.....2

2000-01......0.......6.....29.....23.....18.....13.......0.....89...22.....20...13

 

1999-00......0.......1.....10.....22.....18.......4.......1.....56...28.....18.....7

1998-99......0.......0.......8.....20.....13.....11.......0.....52...18.....13.....3

1997-98......0.......8.....10.....13.......9.......9.......0.....49.....4.......3.....2

1996-97......0.......8.......7.....25.....14.....12.......3.....69...14.....11.....3

1995-96......0.......8.....24.....24.....18.....15.......0.....89...15.....30.....9

1994-95......0.......3.....10.....19.....20.......5.......3.....60...14.....11.....5

1993-94......0.......3.....15.....29.....24.....13.......0.....84...26.....31.....5

1992-93......0.......5.....13.....21.....27.....14.......0.....80...22.......7.....3

1991-92......0.......2.....15.....19.....15.....16.......1.....68...14.......9.....2

1990-91......0.......2.....11.....20.....14.......6.......1.....54.....8.......7.....1

 

1989-90......0.......9.....31.....10.....15.......9.......0.....74...33.....19.....9

1988-89......1.......1.....19.....16.....21.....13.......0.....71...11.....19.....3

1987-88......0.......5.......9.....24.....23.....11.......0.....72...16.....19.....7

1986-87......0.......6.....10.....23.....23.....11.......1.....74...19.....11.....5

1985-86......0.......0.....23.....21.....21.......9.......0.....74...12.....19.....4

1984-85......0.......5.......6.....28.....18.....10.......2.....69...35.....18.....5

1983-84......0.......1.....17.....26.....10.....13.......0.....67...19.....29.....8

1982-83......0.......4.....10.....18.....14.......7.......0.....53...12.....13.....4

1981-82......0.......2.....15.....26.....20.......9.......5.....77...24.....20.....6

1980-81......0.......2.....24.....27.....14.....12.......0.....79...24.....30...11

 

1979-80......0.......1.....12.....22.....24.....10.......1.....70...31.....19.....5

1978-79......0.......3.....15.....20.....21.......8.......1.....68...22.....26...11

1977-78......0.......4.....15.....27.....27.....13.......1.....87...22.....42...12

1976-77......2.....11.....25.....31.....17.......7.......3.....96...51.....45.....9

1975-76......1.......0.....21.....30.....14.......8.......2.....76...26.....20.....3

1974-75......3.......7.....12.....16.....16.....15.......6.....75...17.......8.....2

1973-74......0.......2.....16.....20.....24.....12.......2.....76...15.....23.....3

1972-73......1.......7.......9.....17.....21.......3.......0.....57.....9.....13.....4

1971-72......0.......5.....12.....18.....23.....16.......4.....78...11.....17.....5

1970-71......0.......4.....21.....29.....12.....12.......0.....78...16.....25.....5

 

1969-70......2.......5.....24.....30.....21.....14.......1.....97...45.....27.....6

1968-69......0.......1.....22.....22.....21.....15.......1.....82...27.....18.....3

1967-68......0.......9.....14.....24.....26.....13.......1.....87...27.....22.....9

1966-67......0.......2.....22.....19.....25.....16.......3.....86...15.....25.....6

1965-66......1.......3.....10.....22.....21.....10.......0.....67...17.....14.....2

1964-65......0.......4.....18.....28.....19.......9.......1.....79...27.....22.....5

1963-64......0.......0.....22.....16.....25.......9.......3.....75...22.....18.....7

1962-63......0.......4.....22.....23.....25.......8.......0.....82...21.....29.....7

1961-62......0.......5.....20.....24.....22.......7.......0.....78...16.....16.....4

1960-61......0.......3.....26.....27.....14.......8.......0.....78...26.....27...16

 

1959-60......0.......6.....12.....24.....20.....26.......0.....88...20.....15.....3

1958-59......0.......3.....28.....24.....21.....17.......0.....93...23.....26...10

1957-58......0.......3.......9.....21.....22.......3.......1.....59...17.....20...12

1956-57......0.......7.....12.....26.....19.......9.......0.....73...12.....12.....6

1955-56......0.......8.....26.....25.....16.....17.......0.....92...19.....23.....4

1954-55......0.......1.....17.....28.....17.....14.......0.....77...33.....16.....4

1953-54......0.......1.......9.....26.....10.....13.......3.....62...16.....15.....4

1952-53......0.......2.....12.....19.....16.......9.......0.....58.....8.......2.....1

1951-52......0.....11.....19.....20.....19.....14.......0.....83...19.....13.....3

1950-51......0.......3.....19.....19.....17.......9.......0.....67...18.....12.....3

 

1949-50......0.......5.....16.....12.....21.....21.......8.....83...18.....12.....3

1948-49......0.......0.....14.....17.....16.....15.......0.....62.....9.......9.....4

1947-48......0.......4.....25.....29.....24.....13.......1.....96...26.....33...10

1946-47......0.......2.....16.....18.....26.....20.......0.....82...18.....12.....5

1945-46......0.......6.....24.....22.....24.......3.......0.....79...18.....24.....9

1944-45......0.......5.....23.....30.....22.......6.......0.....84...36.....25.....5

1943-44......0.......7.....22.....24.....23.....16.......4.....96...16.....17.....3

1942-43......0.......5.....24.....26.....20.....12.......9.....96...13.....29.....5

1941-42......0.......1.....14.....24.....25.......0.......0.....64...16.....19.....6

1940-41......2.......7.....17.....26.....25.....24.......0...101...14.....16.....4

 

1939-40......0.......6.....16.....28.....22.....23.......4.....99...20.....29.....6

1938-39......0.......6.....19.....21.....15.....17.......2.....80...17.....18.....4

1937-38......0.......4.....18.....24.....18.....11.......2.....77...15.....16.....4

1936-37......2.....13.....15.....14.....22.....19.......0.....85...12.....10.....2

1935-36......0.......3.....21.....23.....25.......7.......1.....80...31.....39...12

1934-35......0.......3.....21.....22.....21.....11.......1.....79...12.....24.....5

1933-34......2.....12.....16.....20.....28.....21.......0.....99...36.....38.....9

1932-33......0.......7.....13.....11.....20.....11.......0.....62...11.....13.....4

1931-32......0.......3.....17.......4.....17.....18.......1.....60...12.......5.....2

1930-31......0.......7.....18.....21.....20.......9.......0.....75...15.....12.....3

 

1929-30......0.......5.....18.....20.....18.....10.......2.....73...12.....25.....8

1928-29......1.......3.....14.....27.....19.......8.......0.....72...18.....15.....4

1927-28......0.......4.....17.....19.....20.....18.......1.....79...15.....20.....5

1926-27......0.......7.....28.....23.....16.....10.......0.....84...14.....24.....6

1925-26......3.......9.....19.....21.....25.....20.......5...102...11.....27.....4

1924-25......0.......9.....22.....30.....13.......7.......2.....83...32.....22.....2

1923-24......0.......3.....10.....24.....28.....16.......2.....83...29.....17.....4

1922-23......0.......9.....20.....28.....26.....20.......4...107...24.....31.....6

1921-22......0.......4.....23.....28.....19.....12.......1.....87...13.....23.....6

1920-21......0.......5.....19.....21.....21.......4.......1.....71.....9.....10.....2

 

1919-20......0.......6.....26.....30.....27.....16.......4...109...25.....40.....7

1918-19......0.......3.....16.....17.....19.......9.......4.....68...12.......7.....3

1917-18......1.......7.....29.....31.....19.....12.......2...101...44.....45...10

1916-17......0.......6.....21.....22.....25.....15.......2.....91...20.....26.....6

1915-16......0.......3.....25.....20.....27.....23.......1.....99...47.....37.....6

1914-15......0.......9.....26.....21.....16.....23.......2.....97...25.....23.....7

1913-14......0.......2.....14.....22.....25.....19.......5.....77...38.....26.....7

1912-13......0.......4.....14.....15.....22.......9.......0.....64...15.....16.....6

1911-12......0.......8.....11.....30.....25.....16.......2.....92...26.....39.....8

1910-11......0.......2.....28.....18.....25.....19.......3.....95...18.....31.....5

 

1909-10......0.......1.....22.....25.....24.....10.......0.....82...19.....26.....6

1908-09......0.......5.....17.....19.....13.....16.......2.....72...10.....11.....2

1907-08......0.......0.......9.....25.....26.....14.......3.....77...22.....18.....4

1906-07......0.......2.....21.....17.....25.....12.......3.....80...17.....28.....5

1905-06......0.......5.....15.....12.....17.....22.......1.....72...15.....10.....2

1904-05......0.......5.....28.....25.....27.....13.......0.....98...30.....40.....8

1903-04......0.....11.....24.....29.....28.....19.......6...117...28.....47.....5

1902-03......0.......0.....20.....23.....19.......4.......2.....68...13.....23.....6

1901-02......0.....10.....15.....29.....24.......6.......0.....84...32.....34.....6

1900-01......0.......3.....16.....22.....28.....14.......0.....83...32.....30.....6

 

1899-00......0.......2.....15.....24.....22.....26.......5.....94...21.....22.....8

1898-99......0.......7.....17.....23.....20.....14.......6.....87...21.....23.....9

1897-98......0.......5.....16.....16.....13.......4.......5.....59...15.....12.....3

1896-97......0.......2.....19.....22.....18.....12.......2.....75...15.....24.....8

1895-96......0.......3.....17.....26.....22.....24.......5.....97...19.....31.....7

1894-95......0.......9.....12.....26.....27.....25.......3...102...41.....35.....9

1893-94......0.......9.....24.....25.....22.......8.......4.....92...14.....16.....3

1892-93......0.......9.....17.....30.....26.....18.......0...100...38.....41...13

1891-92......0.......6.....10.....26.....18.....21.......2.....83...13.....21.....3

1890-91......0.......7.....26.....21.....16.....15.......6.....92...11.....23.....4..... 1 min in May

 

1889-90......1.......6.....11.....21.....15.....19.......3.....76...10.....15.....3

1888-89......0.......9.....21.....17.....26.....11.......0.....84...20.....15.....3

1887-88......2.......8.....20.....31.....24.....23.......4...110...45.....44.....7

1886-87......0.......7.....24.....26.....22.....28.......8...115...28.....33.....5

1885-86......0.......6.....23.....25.....21.....15.......1.....91...22.....29...10

1884-85......0.......5.....16.....25.....28.....25.......3...102...34.....38.....8

1883-84......0.......9.....23.....28.....21.....15.......1.....97...16.....35.....6

1882-83......0.....14.....24.....29.....26.....25.......3...121...32.....39.....6

1881-82......0.......7.....13.....22.....19.....15.......4.....80...13.....21.....5

1880-81......0.....13.....27.....31.....24.....15.......6...111...56.....52...15

 

1879-80......2.....10.....18.....14.....18.....20.......5.....87...11.....12.....2

1878-79......0.......4.....22.....30.....26.....15.......4...101...43.....35.....6

1877-78......0.......8.....18.....22.....19.......7.......0.....74...12.....21.....6

1876-77......1.......2.....29.....29.....12.....18.......2.....93...23.....41.....9

Surprised it never happened in January 1977- or February 1934 or December 1917 for that matter!

 

[uncle W]

6 minutes ago, Paragon said:

Surprised it never happened in January 1977- or February 1934 or December 1917 for that matter!

 

it did happen in Jan 1977...1934 ha 28 days and all were below freezing...Dec 17 had 29 and Jan 18 31...that's 60 out of 62 days...

[qg_omega]

Sneaky cold night upcoming

[CIK62]

Next 8 days averaging 46degs., or about 4 or 5 degrees AN.

[the_other_guy]

11 hours ago, qg_omega said:

Sneaky cold night upcoming

 

Right? Even JFK got down to 32F this morning.

 

[Paragon]

6 minutes ago, jfklganyc said:

 

Right? Even JFK got down to 32F this morning.

 

Not really that cold- JFK is typically colder than either NYC or LGA on these nights.

[qg_omega]

1 hour ago, Paragon said:

Not really that cold- JFK is typically colder than either NYC or LGA on these nights.

JFK got down to 31, thats solidly below average.  LGA got down to 37 while the park 36.  JFK radiates the best out of the three NYC stations.  The sensor is basically on a marsh.

[Paragon]

1 hour ago, qg_omega said:

JFK got down to 31, thats solidly below average.  LGA got down to 37 while the park 36.  JFK radiates the best out of the three NYC stations.  The sensor is basically on a marsh.

Funny thing is I'm like 4 miles SE of JFK and on some nights, my temps are up to 10 degrees colder than JFK and more in line with Farmingdale's.  One time we even had a heavy frost in the middle of May (5/14/96) when JFK was still in the 40s and it was snowing 2-4" after severe wx in the Poconos.  It was 33 here and the frost was so thick it looked like snow had fallen.

[sferic]

15 minutes ago, Paragon said:

Funny thing is I'm like 4 miles SE of JFK and on some nights, my temps are up to 10 degrees colder than JFK and more in line with Farmingdale's.  One time we even had a heavy frost in the middle of May (5/14/96) when JFK was still in the 40s and it was snowing 2-4" after severe wx in the Poconos.  It was 33 here and the frost was so thick it looked like snow had fallen.

In Malverne?

[qg_omega]

15 minutes ago, Paragon said:

Funny thing is I'm like 4 miles SE of JFK and on some nights, my temps are up to 10 degrees colder than JFK and more in line with Farmingdale's.  One time we even had a heavy frost in the middle of May (5/14/96) when JFK was still in the 40s and it was snowing 2-4" after severe wx in the Poconos.  It was 33 here and the frost was so thick it looked like snow had fallen.

4 miles further away from an urban city is very significant in radiational cooling, especially when your soil is sandy.  Look at West Hampton beach, a few miles can move the temp by 20+ degrees.  

[Paragon]

27 minutes ago, sferic said:

In Malverne?

Halfway between Lynbrook and Malverne approx.

[Paragon]

28 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

4 miles further away from an urban city is very significant in radiational cooling, especially when your soil is sandy.  Look at West Hampton beach, a few miles can move the temp by 20+ degrees.  

Yep, I heard windows fog up when people drive there!

Must be a curse for anyone that has a telescope, the thing will dew or frost up within a few minutes of stepping outside!

 

 

[sferic]

8 minutes ago, Paragon said:

Halfway between Lynbrook and Malverne approx.

Isn't that NE of JFK not SE ?

[Paragon]

2 hours ago, sferic said:

Isn't that NE of JFK not SE ?

No I don't think so, I'm south of Southern State by about a mile JFK is slightly NW of here.  Closer to Sunrise. The northern part of the airport is about the same latitude as Jamaica and Sunrise/Belt Pkwy.  I spend about half my time in the Poconos (just came back from spending two weeks there) so I'm not completely familiar with local geography.

 

 

 

[donsutherland1]

18 hours ago, Paragon said:

That was a really bad month (December 1989) because it was a huge tease.

We were supposed to get a big snowstorm (predicted 8 inches which was big for back then), and as soon as it started snowing, I heard a clap of thunder and saw lightning and it changed right over to rain......... What made it even worse was that the previous winter we had another 8 inch bust when it was predicted we'd get 8 inches of snow in February 1989 and all we got was 8 inches of virga- while Atlantic City got 20 inches!  It was overcast all day and felt like it would snow but we never got a flake.

The other "events" were very minor 1-2 inch events that occurred once a week or so.  Oh, the 1-2 inches were mostly on the south shore, NYC got like T-0.5 inch in those "events" in December 1989.

 

Personally, I don't think a disastrous 1989-90 scenario is the most likely outcome. That winter was a neutral ENSO winter. The upcoming winter will likely feature a weak La Niña. Things that could lead to such an outcome would include sustained cooler anomalies in ENSO Region 1+2 vs. ENSO Region 3.4, the development of a sustained negative PDO, a short duration for the currently forecast deep blocking episode. At last word, ENSO Region 3.4 was cooling faster than ENSO Region 1+2 (still somewhat of relatively cooler anomaly for Regin 1+2), the PDO was neutral to slightly positive, and the deep blocking was forecast to be of a longer-duration than in December 1989. Long-duration strong blocking episodes in December can signal a blocky winter. Right now, I believe a scenario closer to 2000-01 (with 2010-11 on the proverbial table) appears more likely than one resembling 1989-90.

[Paragon]

58 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Personally, I don't think a disastrous 1989-90 scenario is the most likely outcome. That winter was a neutral ENSO winter. The upcoming winter will likely feature a weak La Niña. Things that could lead to such an outcome would include sustained cooler anomalies in ENSO Region 1+2 vs. ENSO Region 3.4, the development of a sustained negative PDO, a short duration for the currently forecast deep blocking episode. At last word, ENSO Region 3.4 was cooling faster than ENSO Region 1+2 (still somewhat of relatively cooler anomaly for Regin 1+2), the PDO was neutral to slightly positive, and the deep blocking was forecast to be of a longer-duration than in December 1989. Long-duration strong blocking episodes in December can signal a blocky winter. Right now, I believe a scenario closer to 2000-01 (with 2010-11 on the proverbial table) appears more likely than one resembling 1989-90.

Don, I think our climate has changed drastically from the late 80s to now.  Warmer months but also more significantly more precip.  I think the dry/cold monthly pattern has become extremely rare since then.  It can be dry and cold over timeframes of a week or two, but if the month averages out significantly below normal temp, it's very likely to have above normal snowfall.

 

[donsutherland1]

10 minutes ago, Paragon said:

Don, I think our climate has changed drastically from the late 80s to now.  Warmer months but also more significantly more precip.  I think the dry/cold monthly pattern has become extremely rare since then.  It can be dry and cold over timeframes of a week or two, but if the month averages out significantly below normal temp, it's very likely to have above normal snowfall.

 

I believe our snowfall this winter will be above average (likely somewhere between 30"-35" for NYC and EWR) including in interior sections of the region.

[uncle W]

todays ao forecast is more muddled but has one member dropping off the chart...one member goes positive for a brief time...,

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao_index_ensm.shtml

[Paragon]

4 minutes ago, uncle W said:

todays ao forecast is more muddled but has one member dropping off the chart...one member goes positive for a brief time...,

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao_index_ensm.shtml

Our best winters occur when the NAO/AO move between positive and negative a great deal and our biggest storms usually occur during transitional times (typically when the indices are moving from negative to positive.)

 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

24 minutes ago, Paragon said:

Our best winters occur when the NAO/AO move between positive and negative a great deal and our biggest storms usually occur during transitional times (typically when the indices are moving from negative to positive.)

 

I agree with the last part. Our biggest storms have tended to be at the end of an -AO period. We definitely need a pattern change away from this dry regime though.  

[Paragon]

1 minute ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I agree with the last part. Our biggest storms have tended to be at the end of an -AO period. We definitely need a pattern change away from this dry regime though.  

The good news is if we wanted to have a dry period, this is the time to get it out of our system lol.  November rarely produces snow for us anyway so it's better to get the dryness out of our hair now.  In this current era, dry periods like this have snapped back to produce very wet periods soon after.

 

[CIK62]

Next 8 days averaging 47degs., or 6degs. AN.

[donsutherland1]

November will likely finish with temperature anomalies of 1.0° to 1.3° below normal across the New York City Metro area and adjacent locations. So it will wind up being a solidly below normal month, even as it wasn't exceptionally cold overall. Despite the still warm outlook on the CFSv2, the probability of a colder than normal December in the eastern third of the U.S. has increased.

[WEATHERBUFF]

1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said:

November will likely finish with temperature anomalies of 1.0° to 1.3° below normal across the New York City Metro area and adjacent locations. So it will wind up being a solidly below normal month, even as it wasn't exceptionally cold overall. Despite the still warm outlook on the CFSv2, the probability of a colder than normal December in the eastern third of the U.S. has increased.

CFSv2 has been awful!

[donsutherland1]

6 minutes ago, WEATHERBUFF said:

CFSv2 has been awful!

It has been. Usually it gets more skillful in the closing days of the month, but I think this is a case where it is lost in the East. The West should be warm given the pattern that is likely to develop. Perhaps I'll be wrong, but with an extended duration PNA-AO block, I'm feeling pretty confident about December's outcome in the East. The recent runs of the EPS have reinforced that confidence. A big pattern change to colder weather is coming near the end of the first week of December or just after it, and it's probably the type of regime that can be sustained for multiple weeks.

[psv88]

Beautiful 60 today. 

[Juliancolton]

1 minute ago, psv88 said:

Beautiful 60 today. 

Had to rouse the convertible out of hibernation for the day. I forgot how nice 60 and sunny feels but I also forgot what a pleasure it is to drive a competent car instead of my old 4x4 pickup.

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

Gorgeous day out there for sure. Temps should beat guidance by a couple degrees.