Tim from Springfield (IL) Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Indystorm said: Yep, watching the Colts/Bills game on tv. I don't care who wins. I'm just enjoying the LES and the players slip slidin' away. 1 hour ago, josh_4184 said: Wish they were showing the Bills game here, instead its Vikings sigh... I'm surprised we didn't get Colts/Bills in our area (the first Bears win in ages was on Fox earlier). That would have also been something I would have wanted to see other than the OT (and the game winning TD as I'm typing this). Now if the Colts were better than 3-9, I am sure that our CBS affiliate, WCIA Champaign, would have been assigned that game for Central Illinois. When the Colts were good and the Bears had a Fox game on at the same time, it seems like CBS treated the Champaign/Decatur/Springfield market (and to some extent Peoria) like a secondary market for the Colts (IIRC Warren County, Indiana might have actually been in the Champaign TV market in recent years, but not sure if they still are today). Especially once the Rams tanked and eventually left for LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radtechwxman Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 That band was a persistent thundersnow producer for a bit. Beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I usually don't watch much football anymore, but had to check out the Bills/Colts from beginning to end. Really cool. Buffaloweather, if I remember right from being in the area a couple of years ago, isn't Rich Stadium (or whatever the heck it's called now) just a couple of miles from Hamburg? EDIT: I was told that you get tickets for $5.00. I would have gone if I was in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 55 minutes ago, StormChaser4Life said: That band was a persistent thundersnow producer for a bit. Beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 19 minutes ago, IWXwx said: I usually don't watch much football anymore, but had to check out the Bills/Colts from beginning to end. Really cool. Buffaloweather, if I remember right from being in the area a couple of years ago, isn't Rich Stadium (or whatever the heck it's called now) just a couple of miles from Hamburg? EDIT: I was told that you get tickets for $5.00. I would have gone if I was in the area. Yeah, about 5-6 miles north/northeast of Hamburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 That game was one of the snowiest games I've seen! I believe I heard a buffalo reporter say the same thing. So awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radtechwxman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Here we go again. Must be something with Lake Erie versus Lake Ontario. That band south of Watertown is no joke but hasn't produced lightning to my knowledge. That band near Buffalo has been very convective all day with numerous occasions of thundersnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 Hey Buffalo how much you pick up so far today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, josh_4184 said: Hey Buffalo how much you pick up so far today? Since last night 20". There is some crazy convection going on over the lake. Went to the park with the puppy and had constant thunder and lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 Latest NAM meso showing the extremely common, Lake Nipigon - Superior - Lake Mi - Central Indian - South Ohio LES band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, josh_4184 said: Latest NAM meso showing the extremely common, Lake Nipigon - Superior - Lake Mi - Central Indian - South Ohio LES band. I am right under that band! I would LOVE for that to happen. BuffaloWeather, I would hate to live in Buffalo or Depew...and so often have to look at a dark cloud deck just to the south...knowing they are getting rocked. That's one thing I like about Lake Michigan. Although we usually don't get outrageous amounts like you guys do...lake effect snow is more "spread the wealth" here, rather than one dominant band. If it's a northerly flow, that's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, josh_4184 said: Latest NAM meso showing the extremely common, Lake Nipigon - Superior - Lake Mi - Central Indian - South Ohio LES band. Think it's been there for a few runs now. Local met talked about it saying the areas here that get under that band could see decent accumulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, blackrock said: I am right under that band! I would LOVE for that to happen. BuffaloWeather, I would hate to live in Buffalo or Depew...and so often have to look at a dark cloud deck just to the south...knowing they are getting rocked. That's one thing I like about Lake Michigan. Although we usually don't get outrageous amounts like you guys do...lake effect snow is more "spread the wealth" here, rather than one dominant band. If it's a northerly flow, that's a different story. It's only single bands in a WSW/SW flow. The majority of the time it's W/NW flow which leads to multiple bands that add up slowly over time. There has been many events in which the city and northtowns get hit, but just not as many as the southtowns do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Impressive Lake Effect Snow band a distinct possibility for Tuesday afternoon in Northwest Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said: It's only single bands in a WSW/SW flow. The majority of the time it's W/NW flow which leads to multiple bands that add up slowly over time. There has been many events in which the city and northtowns get hit, but just not as many as the southtowns do. Just perused your area's thread (Upstate NY) and it looks like some exciting snow bands moving through there today...through Wednesday! I enjoyed seeing the pictures and videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jim Martin said: Impressive Lake Effect Snow band a distinct possibility for Tuesday afternoon in Northwest Ohio. Swings through most of western OH in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Boy, do I wish this guy was right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 The NWS are pretty confident that the coast lines are going to get thumped pretty good. The NNW winds will have a strong tap to Lake Sup, not much for my area but congratz to any coastline guys. This should help Munsining area build there snow pack when of my favorite riding areas. I bet some areas in Alger county see 2' easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 WRF-NMM to Fort Wayne: Hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxMatt21 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, IWXwx said: WRF-NMM to Fort Wayne: Hi Interesting snow forecast for tomorrow. The WRF-NMM is exciting, but the 12k/3k NAM is more realistic. Getting any more than 1-2" from lake effect snow this far inland is pretty rare, so I'm pretty interested to see which model ends up having a better overall handle on the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, WxMatt21 said: Interesting snow forecast for tomorrow. The WRF-NMM is exciting, but the 12k/3k NAM is more realistic. Getting any more than 1-2" from lake effect snow this far inland is pretty rare, so I'm pretty interested to see which model ends up having a better overall handle on the details. The dates don't come to me right now, but I do remember at least two instances where a dominate band with a Superior connection clobbered both FWA and DAY. Pretty rare though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxMatt21 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 27 minutes ago, IWXwx said: The dates don't come to me right now, but I do remember at least two instances where a dominate band with a Superior connection clobbered both FWA and DAY. Pretty rare though. Spoke to Lonnie at IWX and picked his brain for a bit. Truly a complicated forecast. FWA could get warning criteria, advisory criteria, or HWO criteria snows, it just all depends on where those dominant bands set up. And to think I have to put a snow map together this afternoon lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, WxMatt21 said: Spoke to Lonnie at IWX and picked his brain for a bit. Truly a complicated forecast. FWA could get warning criteria, advisory criteria, or HWO criteria snows, it just all depends on where those dominant bands set up. And to think I have to put a snow map together this afternoon lol! I think you know how APX/Mqt/ and Buf feel trying to with the best accuracy forecast LES. if you wrong on either end you will get serious flack. All it takes is a shift in winds or lack of a shift and 1" can become 1'+ real easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxMatt21 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, josh_4184 said: I think you know how APX/Mqt/ and Buf feel trying to with the best accuracy forecast LES. if you wrong on either end you will get serious flack. All it takes is a shift in winds or lack of a shift and 1" can become 1'+ real easy. That is precisely my fear haha! My ranges are going to be fairly broad (I try to forecast only 2" increments in my snow maps, but lake effect obviously makes that impossible), and the good ol' "+" at the end of a range of numbers is also a nice buffer, since that lets everyone know more is possible. But I fully expect some disappointed/angry/upset/excited people by the end of day tomorrow regardless. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, WxMatt21 said: Spoke to Lonnie at IWX and picked his brain for a bit. Truly a complicated forecast. FWA could get warning criteria, advisory criteria, or HWO criteria snows, it just all depends on where those dominant bands set up. And to think I have to put a snow map together this afternoon lol! Lol. Yes, I feel for you. Especially with those narrow streamers such as depicted on some of the high-res, as Josh says, can make a big difference in amounts. You also have to deal with the fact that with that wide variance of totals just within your forecast area, Joe Public viewer may not understand that when you say the possibility of 4-6", you may not be speaking of their specific back yard, but somewhere 40 miles from them. Then they get upset because they only got 1". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Haha. I just posted and you answered how you address my concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I just noticed that the 3km NAM depict a Lake Michigan streamer extending well into West Virginia. Don't think I've ever seen that before. Also, Hoosier picked a bad time to go MIA. I'd like to hear his take on the LES, even though the bands will be well east of him. Looks to me like someone in SW Lower might see 12" with winds up to 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 hours ago, IWXwx said: I just noticed that the 3km NAM depict a Lake Michigan streamer extending well into West Virginia. Don't think I've ever seen that before. Also, Hoosier picked a bad time to go MIA. I'd like to hear his take on the LES, even though the bands will be well east of him. Looks to me like someone in SW Lower might see 12" with winds up to 40. I haven't really looked that much. The modeled inland extent does look impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxMatt21 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 hours ago, IWXwx said: Lol. Yes, I feel for you. Especially with those narrow streamers such as depicted on some of the high-res, as Josh says, can make a big difference in amounts. You also have to deal with the fact that with that wide variance of totals just within your forecast area, Joe Public viewer may not understand that when you say the possibility of 4-6", you may not be speaking of their specific back yard, but somewhere 40 miles from them. Then they get upset because they only got 1". This is what I came up with! *Crosses fingers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, (((Will))) said: Pouring snow here in Calumet. Wasn't expecting that this evening. Difficult drive home. Getting pummeled here in Gaylord as well, also wasn't expecting to much with a NNW flow, will probably push more west of my area later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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