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MO/KS/AR/OK 2019-2020 Winter Wonderland Discussion


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Just now, MUWX said:

18Z with a pretty significant storm next weekend 

Yeah, that's the storm that's been showing up, but the GFS might be too cold. The temp difference between the 12z Euro and the 18z GFS is huge. It's like -2 in Omaha, NE on the GFS while it's 34 on the Euro at 06z FRI the 17th.

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3 minutes ago, MUWX said:

18Z with a pretty significant storm next weekend 

I've been watching it past few runs. I haven't said much because, well...1 thing at a time right? But that is a mean ice storm, not to mention afterwards there's 1 day above freezing and then it doesn't get above freezing for a while.

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The cold front finally gets a push into Northeast Oklahoma Friday
afternoon and through Northwest Arkansas late Friday
evening/overnight Friday night as the main upper low shifts
eastward into Texas. Behind the cold front...much colder air is
forecast to filter into the region Friday night which will allow
for precip to transition over to a wintry mix of freezing rain and
sleet into Saturday morning from northwest to southeast. The
greater wintry mix is expected across Northeast Oklahoma before
the nose of warmer temps aloft can be eroded. Ice accumulations of
a few hundredths of an inch will be possible with to up toward a
tenth of an inch for some location along the Oklahoma Kansas
border.

Surface temps will continue to fall Friday night through much of
the Saturday as the upper low shifts east into the CWA and then
Northeast into Missouri Saturday afternoon. By Saturday afternoon
temps in the 20s to mid 30s are forecast from north to south.
These temp profiles combined with moisture wrapping around the
upper low will aid in a transition to all snow during the day
Saturday from west to east before tapering off and exiting by
Saturday evening. Also behind the exiting low...gusty northerly
winds in the 20 to 30+ mph range will be possible which could
create areas of blowing snow Saturday morning. At this
time...snow accumulations of 1 to 3 with locally higher amounts
could be possible along and north of I-44 with around 1 inch or so
for far Northwest Arkansas before the precip ends. With these
amounts and also the possible ice amounts a winter storm watch
will be issued across parts of the Oklahoma Kansas border in
Northeast Oklahoma Friday night into Saturday.
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36 minutes ago, NwWhiteOut said:

LOL at the typical 1" mention for NW Arkansas, this one sounds like its a nightmare for the mets to forecast so I guess we wait to see what happens? Are things locked in now? I know its onshore and has been sampled right? Forecast is confusing to say the least

I don’t think models get the fully sampled data until tonight. 

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9 minutes ago, lokee said:

What is everyone's gut feeling right now? Seeing what we have seen so far.

Here in Lawrence, KS... pretty confident on seeing some ice Friday evening: freezing rain transitioning to sleet/mixed precip something between .07-.15” of ice looks probable... followed by 4-8” of snow. Kinda sucks because there’s a big basketball game on Saturday here, #3 KU vs #4 Baylor.

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6 minutes ago, jojo762 said:

Here in Lawrence, KS... pretty confident on seeing some ice, freezing rain transitioning to sleet/mixed precip somethings between .07-.15” of ice... followed by 4-8” of snow. Kinda sucks because there’s a big basketball game on Saturday here, #3 KU vs #4 Baylor.

That may be a preview of a Sweet 16  or Elite 8 game.

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9 minutes ago, jojo762 said:

Here in Lawrence, KS... pretty confident on seeing some ice Friday evening: freezing rain transitioning to sleet/mixed precip something between .07-.15” of ice looks probable... followed by 4-8” of snow. Kinda sucks because there’s a big basketball game on Saturday here, #3 KU vs #4 Baylor.

Go Baylor!

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1 hour ago, NwWhiteOut said:

LOL at the typical 1" mention for NW Arkansas, this one sounds like its a nightmare for the mets to forecast so I guess we wait to see what happens? Are things locked in now? I know its onshore and has been sampled right? Forecast is confusing to say the least

I know these 18Z runs include old upper air data(aka not the on shore sampled stuff) so I’d say it’s not locked in. Plus, they’re literally going to wait until the HRRR is in 18 hr range to make those calls.

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24 minutes ago, Doramo said:

I'm expecting to get lots of rain and maybe a flake or two of snow on the exit .  :raining:

Me too. Normally I am rooting for the NAM and it usually caves to the EURO and/or GFS. This time I am rooting for the EURO/GFS and they will probably cave to the NAM. :underthewx:

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