Spot Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Been heavy flurries all morning long a "deep" dusting I would say I have here. Winter Weather ADV North and south of me.. not a surprise there. Guess better then nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NwWhiteOut Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, Spot said: Been heavy flurries all morning long a "deep" dusting I would say I have here. Winter Weather ADV North and south of me.. not a surprise there. Guess better then nothing. Cool, its something. Im glad its cold, temps have been dropped back a bit for today and tomorrow here which is nice. The wind is crazy here too today, 32 and just makes it feel nice and xmas'y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, NwWhiteOut said: Hey JoMo did you get anything up there this morning? I noticed you are in an advisory until 11am? Its been drizzly here all morning off and on right at 33-32 degrees Don't think so. I'm becoming increasingly concerned about power outages and trees going down though since they still have a lot of ice on them from the icing the other night and it's getting windy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsoonman1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Topeka reported 1.3 inches of snow today, makes it 1.8 for the season so far. Hope we can squeeze out some more before the New Year.Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doramo Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 We had a few flurries here but no accumulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSwizzle83 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Lots of signals for a couple of rounds of wintry precip this week. Set up looks more icy and sleety to me, but that can and likely will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, GSwizzle83 said: Lots of signals for a couple of rounds of wintry precip this week. Set up looks more icy and sleety to me, but that can and likely will change. Yea and GFS with its crazy well below 0 temps around New Years Day.. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 Merry Christmas to all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSwizzle83 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 9 hours ago, JoMo said: Merry Christmas to all! Merry Christmas to all! GFS says bone chilling cold and the EURO says "what cold?" Just another day of following model runs. Hope you all have a wonderful day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doramo Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 MERRY CHRISTMAS everybody 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NwWhiteOut Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Merry Christmas forum family!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Merry Christmas to all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoWeatherguy Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Merry Christmas! Here's to a wintry January and February! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 We will likely lose the -EPO at some point during the next 15 days. The cold air should stick around for a bit, either way, but there will probably be a new pattern emerging as we head into January and it looks like the troughing will be based more in the western and northwestern US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Waterboy Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 We really need to cash in next weekend before the pattern flips. If JB is correct we may have a break until Feb then the cold comes back until sometime in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMZ8990 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Waterboy said: We really need to cash in next weekend before the pattern flips. If JB is correct we may have a break until Feb then the cold comes back until sometime in March. So true, perfect conditions over the next week. We just need some moisture to come through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUWX Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, The Waterboy said: We really need to cash in next weekend before the pattern flips. If JB is correct we may have a break until Feb then the cold comes back until sometime in March. I'd love to cash in, but man, the models seem to be drying up big time. I haven't looked at it super close but I'm not seeing much that gets my attention. Granted, a week out a lot can change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NwWhiteOut Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Actually saw a few snow flurries flying earlier!!! How cool that was, not considered a white xmas but sure close enough for me!! Hope you all had a wonderful day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsoonman1 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Kind of a surprise WWA for this morning with 1-2 inches of snow expected IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSwizzle83 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 A couple of interesting model notes. First of all, the GFS wants to drop us into the deep freeze this upcoming weekend with highs on New Year's Day not getting above zero for many of us. The EURO, on the other hand, says what arctic air. I am wondering what the biases are for these models? The GFS has been sticking to its guns the last few days, but we know reliability and consistency are not the same. Secondly, while the GFS is the coldest over the next ten days the EURO is wetter. It is a trade off I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NwWhiteOut Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 These models are doing extremely bad this season or lost in confusion lol, the temperature grids have been all over the place it seems. Was supposed to be 40 here today now NWS saying nope only 34. I see all the light snow/mix for thursday am and the weekend are gone now too but that will probly change as well. Seems like nothing is right until 4-8 hours before something happens lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Waterboy Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 12z GFS looks awesome for the weekend. But the Canadian lost the storm. Still plenty of time. EDIT: GFS temps are absolutely insane. At least 24 hours below zero. I can't even imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 2 hours ago, The Waterboy said: 12z GFS looks awesome for the weekend. But the Canadian lost the storm. Still plenty of time. EDIT: GFS temps are absolutely insane. At least 24 hours below zero. I can't even imagine. GFS is nutty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUGrad05 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, Spot said: GFS is nutty. It's been hanging tough which is odd. Euro is still damn cold but not -8 here in Tulsa...more like 10* which is still chilly. Would take me some -8 though for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjc0303 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Keep in mind, these really cold patterns are usually the result of highly amplified ridges with a NE trough.. While the pattern is great for repeated shots of cold air masses, it is not-so-good for moisture return nor is it going to result in a storm track conducive for widespread plains snowfall. Until we get out of this N/NW flow aloft we will stay cold (sometimes bitterly cold, like is being hinted at next week) but relatively dry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUGrad05 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, bjc0303 said: Keep in mind, these really cold patterns are usually the result of highly amplified ridges with a NE trough.. While the pattern is great for repeated shots of cold air masses, it is not-so-good for moisture return nor is it going to result in a storm track conducive for widespread plains snowfall. Until we get out of this N/NW flow aloft we will stay cold (sometimes bitterly cold, like is being hinted at next week) but relatively dry. I'll take all the cold we can get after the last couple winters. Let's kill some bugs and rodents. I saw a possum the other night the size of a dinosaur. With some luck a few of those nasty critters will bite the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSwizzle83 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Am I missing something here? I have had two different people today (on other sites) tell me there isn't much difference in EURO and GFS temps. From what I see, 12z Monday shows a -20 at SGF and the EURO shows 18 above zero. That's almost a 40º temp difference. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, GSwizzle83 said: Am I missing something here? I have had two different people today (on other sites) tell me there isn't much difference in EURO and GFS temps. From what I see, 12z Monday shows a -20 at SGF and the EURO shows 18 above zero. That's almost a 40º temp difference. Am I missing something? EURO is warmer overall. GFS is way colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSwizzle83 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, Spot said: EURO is warmer overall. GFS is way colder. Is that a typical model bias for each or just the way they are reading this pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, GSwizzle83 said: Is that a typical model bias for each or just the way they are reading this pattern? From what I remember the GFS has/had a cold bias in the past. NAM would have a wet bias and the Euro would hang energy in the SW.. Jomo may have more imput on that. Pattern wise they are not that far off on that from what I can see right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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