EastCoast NPZ Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, losetoa6 said: So nice to see the total snowfall amounts back on the Eps individual members. Wxbell must have just pooled the dust cover off and iniated it today. And there's a few hits to boot..lol No, it's not. Not in October. Kiss of death for winter if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 13 minutes ago, EastCoast NPZ said: No, it's not. Not in October. Kiss of death for winter if it happens. This is way off the deep end, but the one ideal parabolic nina winter for seasonal snowfall from Oct to March April was 1917-1918 (36" dca) eta: March was a dud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, BTRWx said: This is way off the deep end, but the one ideal parabolic nina winter for seasonal snowfall from Oct to March April was 1917-1918 (36" dca) eta: March was a dud Also, here's a fascinating read about that year! http://www.jstor.org/stable/207470 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDM Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, BTRWx said: Also, here's a fascinating read about that year! http://www.jstor.org/stable/207470 Indeed - fascinating reading. Can you imagine the calamity something like that would cause today? Back then in a predominately rural society, people were far more self sufficient and able to cope with adversity. In today's far more urban setting, the dependencies focused on the supply chain of goods to sustain health and well-being is such that most larger urban cities only have sufficient food and goods to sustain its population for a few days. Something as outlined in that article would bring transportation to a grinding halt (no diesel) and resemble Katrina and NO on a grand scale, especially in the larger cities. When people get hungry, things get out of hand real quick. Growing up in Ohio during the blizzard of 78, there were references made to the winter of 17/18. The 78 event really challenged society across a broad area. The impact on schools, commerce, supply chain, and even the rural farms was immense - the national guard dropped feed with helicopter because farmers could not get out to take care of livestock other than those with draft horses and sleds (very few). Dairy was hit very hard. Roads in our area North of Dayton were closed for well over a week until the large snow blowers deployed from Dayton Airport and Wright Patterson AFB. It was really something to see their handiwork. It was not only the snow, and deep drifts, but the prolonged cold. Never got above freezing for over a month afterwards. Our village of 5500 survived, but it was slim pickings on the shelves of the one grocery in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, RDM said: Indeed - fascinating reading. Can you imagine the calamity something like that would cause today? Back then in a predominately rural society, people were far more self sufficient and able to cope with adversity. In today's far more urban setting, the dependencies focused on the supply chain of goods to sustain health and well-being is such that most larger urban cities only have sufficient food and goods to sustain its population for a few days. Something as outlined in that article would bring transportation to a grinding halt (no diesel) and resemble Katrina and NO on a grand scale, especially in the larger cities. When people get hungry, things get out of hand real quick. Growing up in Ohio during the blizzard of 78, there were references made to the winter of 17/18. The 78 event really challenged society across a broad area. The impact on schools, commerce, supply chain, and even the rural farms was immense - the national guard dropped feed with helicopter because farmers could not get out to take care of livestock other than those with draft horses and sleds (very few). Dairy was hit very hard. Roads in our area North of Dayton were closed for well over a week until the large snow blowers deployed from Dayton Airport and Wright Patterson AFB. It was really something to see their handiwork. It was not only the snow, and deep drifts, but the prolonged cold. Never got above freezing for over a month afterwards. Our village of 5500 survived, but it was slim pickings on the shelves of the one grocery in town. Your response is inspirational. Me not understanding self-sufficiency well enough has been challenging even after my many years as a Boy Scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 11 hours ago, pazzo83 said: After about 10 years in NYC, I'm back in DC folks. wooo! welcome back! looking forward to having you around this winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Sarcasm or not, one day I'll make this statement more true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Random observation - DT would charge a series of nested machine guns at the top of a hill if the Euro told him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Sorry for the random interlude, but all of a sudden in my Twitter timeline crankywx was getting attacked by DT and it went on awhile. I think that would be a literal hill DT would die on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Day 16 fantasy blocks are always fun to look at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I've seen too much and have my towel hanging loosely over the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 7 hours ago, North Balti Zen said: Sorry for the random interlude, but all of a sudden in my Twitter timeline crankywx was getting attacked by DT and it went on awhile. I think that would be a literal hill DT would die on. people still follow crankywxguy? he is sooo 6 weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 11 hours ago, mappy said: wooo! welcome back! looking forward to having you around this winter Me too!! Maybe we'll even get snow (although I've been fortunate to experience NYC's all time record snowstorm)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Two days to the geostorm to end all geostorms reminder - some things shouldn’t be controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 41 minutes ago, pazzo83 said: Me too!! Maybe we'll even get snow (although I've been fortunate to experience NYC's all time record snowstorm)! Welcome dude! Now you get to root against snow in NYC. Hopefully we'll get a MA special where Philly gets a dusting and NYC gets cirrus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The only time in my life I was concerned it might be too much snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDM Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, smokeybandit said: The only time in my life I was concerned it might be too much snow Does that concept of "too much snow" really exist? Not sure I dare fathom the thought or my Kubota may never start again. But in all seriousness, you're right. A little more and we would have had some serious roof failures. The ice damming issues were bad enough in our region, especially on flatter pitched roofs. All the more testimony why to use the rubber membrane the first 4 feet or so of a roof from the gutter up (depending on the roof's pitch). But... in a selfish way, I hope we're able to push the limits of structural building codes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 hours ago, North Balti Zen said: Two days to the geostorm to end all geostorms reminder - some things shouldn’t be controlled. Man would it be cool if they mention the story behind historical first-attempts at geoengineering from way back when. eta: Why is this material so challenging to find? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2010 v2.0 - book it folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, pazzo83 said: 2010 v2.0 - book it folks. You already missed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 @pazzo83 is back in the hood. If we get snow i will thank him. If we don't I will blame him. So you best perform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Seasons Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 8 hours ago, RDM said: Does that concept of "too much snow" really exist? In Canada it does. Shocking!!!!! Of course, this is due to it happening for months and months and months. Around April it gets really annoying (just give us spring, for heaven's sake!). But where I grew up the cement-style of snow doesn't exist. It is more along the lines of the fluffy stuff. Still, you do get the faces in March and April. And May. (For the record, due to my life in Canada the only month I've never seen snowfall is July. And I lived on the prairies.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 9 hours ago, RDM said: Does that concept of "too much snow" really exist? Not sure I dare fathom the thought or my Kubota may never start again. But in all seriousness, you're right. A little more and we would have had some serious roof failures. The ice damming issues were bad enough in our region, especially on flatter pitched roofs. All the more testimony why to use the rubber membrane the first 4 feet or so of a roof from the gutter up (depending on the roof's pitch). But... in a selfish way, I hope we're able to push the limits of structural building codes again. I guess I should have clarified, too much snow "at one time" due to roof concerns. Now, enough snow to have full snowcover for months at a time, I'll take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 hours ago, H2O said: @pazzo83 is back in the hood. If we get snow i will thank him. If we don't I will blame him. So you best perform I'm bringing all the snow back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 ^Pazzo didn't forget DC politics. Popularity poll currently on the rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: ^Pazzo didn't forget DC politics. Popularity poll currently on the rise. We could argue the politics of the WD index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 34 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: ^Pazzo didn't forget DC politics. Popularity poll currently on the rise. I'm still too young to know who Pazzo is?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDIII Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I am gonna chase Lake Effect this year. Late November early December. First big blow... hopefully warm surface temps on erie.. I will drive uber while I am up there too.. I heard you can make a killing in surge pricing during major snow events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, PDIII said: I am gonna chase Lake Effect this year. Late November early December. First big blow... hopefully warm surface temps on erie.. I will drive uber while I am up there too.. I heard you can make a killing in surge pricing during major snow events. I am hoping to see LE snows in late December when I am up visiting my grandmother in Amherst, NY (right near Buffalo). Unfortunately, she misses alot of the LE snows because they are usually to her south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDIII Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, losetoa6 said: I've been several times. Been up to Northeast Ohio, Erie, and extreme southwest NY. It was well worth it every time. I experienced my first t+L snow event on Erie.... twice. One day I'm going go to the "Tugs". A place called Redfield ,NY probably . The Tug Hill plateau puts a new meaning to the word crushed. Oh my.. Redfield averages 163 inches a year... http://www.bestplaces.net/climate/city/new_york/redfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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