Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, powderfreak said: This morning... we've picked up another 3" since then. 14" in 48 hours. Nice Jay getting smoked too from the pics I saw, looks like 18 plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 45 minutes ago, PowderBeard said: J.Spin and PF, which radar do you guys use for those images? For close up radar images around the Northern Greens, I use the Weather Underground BTV radar, and I generally go with Composite Reflectivity, since that brings in data from all the reflectivity angles and can help with respect to the beam being blocked by terrain. I often use it in winter mode for precipitation types, but sometimes I’ll turn that off if I’m looking for db values because the colors in the regular mode (greens, with yellow and orange for stronger signals) make it easier to pick out high db areas if they are of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, J.Spin said: For close up radar images around the Northern Greens, I use the Weather Underground BTV radar, and I generally go with Composite Reflectivity, since that brings in data from all the reflectivity angles and can help with respect to the beam being blocked by terrain. I often use it in winter mode for precipitation types, but sometimes I’ll turn that off if I’m looking for db values because the colors in the regular mode (greens, with yellow and orange for stronger signals) make it easier to pick out high db areas if they are of interest. Ditto. I use both the composite and the 2.4 degree scan. Curious how long this lingers today. Some drier air SHOULD be inbound this afternoon. Right now feels a lot drier in BTV than it did two hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Super Jelly here looking at Jay Peaks Pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 52 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Nice Jay getting smoked too from the pics I saw, looks like 18 plus. Yeah if you take their extra bonus snow they usually get that sounds right judging from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, powderfreak said: Yeah if you take their extra bonus snow they usually get that sounds right judging from here. Pics are beautiful, very jelly. Enjoy man, probably no one there right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Maybe the 3K NAM wasn't so far off ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 So stowe hits 10" at 3k. anyone find this thaaaattt surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: So stowe hits 10" at 3k. anyone find this thaaaattt surprising Lol hes always surprised, year after year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: So stowe hits 10" at 3k. anyone find this thaaaattt surprising I wasn't expecting this (the Porg represents the excitement): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, adk said: I wasn't expecting this (the Porg represents the excitement): Nice, never heard, did that Oct 29th storm do much damage in the skiable woods there. Maybe an optical illusion but Stowe might want to cut down that eyeball remover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 48 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Maybe the 3K NAM wasn't so far off ? 00z run last night had 0.80" for MWN through 18z today. So far 0.18" (2.9" snow). I would rather get snow amounts right by adjusting snow ratio, than having artificially high QPF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, OceanStWx said: 00z run last night had 0.80" for MWN through 18z today. So far 0.18" (2.9" snow). I would rather get snow amounts right by adjusting snow ratio, than having artificially high QPF. I was talking about the 18-24 in the Greens they were saying wouldn't happen James, didn't even look at QPF myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: I was talking about the 18-24 in the Greens they were saying wouldn't happen James, didn't even look at QPF myself I'm not saying there wasn't good potential for upslope in the Greens (though I don't think anyone is pushing 2 feet yet right?). The QPF is still garbage. Maybe @powderfreak can chip in with the QPF so far, but the 3km was edging towards 1.00" for Mansfield and all the highest elevations of the Greens (hard to tell since WeatherBell doesn't have a point on the spine). My guess is they are falling short of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: 00z run last night had 0.80" for MWN through 18z today. So far 0.18" (2.9" snow). I would rather get snow amounts right by adjusting snow ratio, than having artificially high QPF. 3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: I'm not saying there wasn't good potential for upslope in the Greens (though I don't think anyone is pushing 2 feet yet right?). The QPF is still garbage. Maybe @powderfreak can chip in with the QPF so far, but the 3km was edging towards 1.00" for Mansfield and all the highest elevations of the Greens (hard to tell since WeatherBell doesn't have a point on the spine). My guess is they are falling short of that. IDK what qpf today is, yesterday Mansfield report .71, can't see todays. Jay might legit have near 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: IDK what qpf today is, yesterday Mansfield report .71, can't see todays. Jay might legit have near 2 0.71"? Well then that place is magic. I'm still going with right for the wrong reasons, because it is off at MWN by a whole order of magnitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Nice, never heard, did that Oct 29th storm do much damage in the skiable woods there. Maybe an optical illusion but Stowe might want to cut down that eyeball remover It's well above my head. No worries on that tree. Hard to say as to the woods. For Stowe proper the woods look fine. For other places, we'll see. I know I'm approaching some locales with extreme caution. 5 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: I'm not saying there wasn't good potential for upslope in the Greens (though I don't think anyone is pushing 2 feet yet right?). The QPF is still garbage. Maybe @powderfreak can chip in with the QPF so far, but the 3km was edging towards 1.00" for Mansfield and all the highest elevations of the Greens (hard to tell since WeatherBell doesn't have a point on the spine). My guess is they are falling short of that. I think the greens are pushing an inch of water ...or more. Lotta moisture in the snow yesterday and today was pretty velvety as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: 0.71"? Well then that place is magic. I'm still going with right for the wrong reasons, because it is off at MWN by a whole order of magnitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: 0.71"? Well then that place is magic. I'm still going with right for the wrong reasons, because it is off at MWN by a whole order of magnitude. That included about a tenth of non accumulating sleety stuff I think from that FROPA band. But then 6" of 10:1. There was a fair amount of graupel. That was yesterday at 4pm for the previous 24 hours. Tonight's will be interesting. Today I bet it's like 0.4" for like 9". The NAM had 1.3" or something. HRRR had .3-.4". This second round has been more like 20:1 fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Its snowed most of the day here in downtown Montpelier but earlier I had to run down to Sharon (exit 2 on 89) and ran out of snow between exits 5 and 4. 32° on the car thermo in Sharon and 21° as I drove past exit 6 on my way back. Still on and off snow back here at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, powderfreak said: That included about a tenth of non accumulating sleety stuff I think from that FROPA band. But then 6" of 10:1. There was a fair amount of graupel. That was yesterday at 4pm for the previous 24 hours. Tonight's will be interesting. Today I bet it's like 0.4" for like 9". The NAM had 1.3" or something. HRRR had .3-.4". This second round has been more like 20:1 fluff. In our forecasts there are basically two ways to force changes in snowfall, since models don't explicitly forecast snowfall. One is adjust the QPF up. More QPF is more snow. The other is adjust the snow ratio. At least the snow ratio can have some science behind it, rather than just adjusting up. So that's my preferred method. Plus it is more accurate for snow melt run off models, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, adk said: It's well above my head. No worries on that tree. Hard to say as to the woods. For Stowe proper the woods look fine. For other places, we'll see. I know I'm approaching some locales with extreme caution. I think the greens are pushing an inch of water ...or more. Lotta moisture in the snow yesterday and today was pretty velvety as well. Yeah for the 2-day two events that sounds right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Its like the fukking energizer bunny... just keeps going. Nice snow globe snow in town...huge flakes filling the air with no hurry to fall to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, powderfreak said: Its like the fukking energizer bunny... just keeps going. Nice snow globe snow in town...huge flakes filling the air with no hurry to fall to the ground. 1/2SM up in Pittsburg currently. You guys really do rob the Whites though, oh what could've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Its like the fukking energizer bunny... just keeps going. Nice snow globe snow in town...huge flakes filling the air with no hurry to fall to the ground. I wish we had accurate Froude data right now. Shame the summit station is such trash now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Good stuff today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 N Greens every single year. Consistently the most snow. (Where people are) Are people still surprised? Mansfield is def. Magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: N Greens every single year. Consistently the most snow. (Where people are) Are people still surprised? No idea what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 A friend's photo... so nice to have the pow machine back for another winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Woke up to 4" with another 2" throughout the day here. Bottom is now falling on the thermo, 15F and descending. Nice pics everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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