MillzPirate Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 really digging the s/w now.... if the Euro verifies a lot of people will never trust any other model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 3:52 AM, FoothillsNC said: The gfs out to 42 looks great. About the same as the Euro at that time. The northern stream is really digging and the southern stream looks healthy. We'll see if it digs pretty far south like the Euro. Yea looking really good now with that turn south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TullyHeel Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 3:52 AM, nchighcountrywx said: Heard that Eric Thomas with WBTV is calling for 1 inch to 2 inch accumulation down in Charlotte. Is that even worth discussing? A virtual non-event if his forecast verifies. Mods, I'll take this one. Please use the banter thread for posts like this. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Czar Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 3:54 AM, burgertime said: Yea looking really good now with that turn south. Yeah we want it to turn south so it can really tap the gulf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion_NC_WX Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 3:52 AM, nchighcountrywx said: Heard that Eric Thomas with WBTV is calling for 1 inch to 2 inch accumulation down in Charlotte. Is that even worth discussing? A virtual non-event if his forecast verifies. Eric was going lock, stock and barrell with the 12z GFS. Even as late as their 7 pm show, I never heard any reference made to the 18Z GFS. I'm sure by the time he goes on air in about 7 or 8 minutes, he'll have a quick look at the 0z run. Eric is good at commenting on the differences if they are significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 @54 looks likes our low is getting a little strung out over LA...let's see where she goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Guys, please remember this is not a banter thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 To me it's starting to look more like the 00z NAM out to 57. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillzPirate Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 High over Canada seemed to slide in a little faster and be a little cooler than GFS depiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 GFS looks like it's falling more in line with the NAM to me...but someone with more knowledge can chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Weather Monger Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 3:53 AM, phil882 said: What I see thus far is that the pacific ridge is more amplified, but the shortwave is a little bit further north than the 18z gfs run. I think we will get a slightly earlier phase. That is exactly what I see as well. Here's hoping the stouter PNA ridge digs this baby on in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 radio guys are really talking about it digging south at 60....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 @72 it looks like it's going to crap....but still snow for NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopplerWx Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Doesnt dig as sharp. DT says maybe its because the euro has a higher resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 @78 a low pops off of NC and looks like it might be going to slam the MA....fffffuuuuuuuuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopplerWx Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Not liking the trends right now. Was the GFS faster like the nam or was it just a phasing problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 paints 1-3" over much of WNC at 72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 @84 the low is going OTS...everyone might lose on this run as far as the big storm goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 GFS looks to warm for ATL-AHN with temps more supportive of snow up in far N GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 3:54 AM, Brick Tamland said: Mods, I'll take this one. Please use the banter thread for posts like this. Thank you. I've seen and heard enough from him. I'll do him a favor and keep him from discussing anything the next 2 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNCCmetgrad Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 GFS looks good until about 60hrs and then the northern stream crushes the southern shortwave. Broad weak surface low forms in southeastern GA as more northern energy dives into the trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Czar Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Instead of phasing the into the southern stream ( like the Euro) the GFS captures it with the northern stream. could be the GFS northern stream bias coming into play here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopplerWx Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 4:05 AM, UNCCmetgrad said: GFS looks good until about 60hrs and then the northern stream crushes the southern shortwave. Broad weak surface low forms in southeastern GA as more northern energy dives into the trough. So its not a speed problem like the nam? Its a problem of the northern stream being too strong again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thing to take away...even on the bad runs we still get a descent snow for us folks in WNC and CLT area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 That could be true in the time frame the gfs is in... On 12/23/2010 at 4:06 AM, Weather Czar said: Instead of phasing the into the southern stream ( like the Euro) the GFS captures it with the northern stream. could be the GFS northern stream bias coming into play here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Here's our QPF totals: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Campbell Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 4:07 AM, Southern Snow said: So its not a speed problem like the nam? Its a problem of the northern stream being too strong again? It looks like its going back to the solution it was showing yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 4:04 AM, Itunis said: GFS looks to warm for ATL-AHN with temps more supportive of snow up in far N GA. Yep, this run looks like total crap for us. Nam wasn't great either. We are getting within that time range where indeed we are running out of time. I know everyone keeps wanting to downplay these models in favor of the euro but think about this, the nam/gfs have these solutions because in part in as little as 48 hours they are showing more interaction with the northern stream. That's not a hell of a long ways away folks. There's still time but these 0z runs are a pretty big blow imo because they should have had better data ingestion of our southern disturbance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Also most of TENN has light snow On 12/23/2010 at 4:07 AM, burgertime said: Thing to take away...even on the bad runs we still get a descent snow for us folks in WNC and CLT area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoothillsNC Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 GFS is too broad of a trough, and has another packet of strong energy coming in too late, because the intial low is now scooting across Ga or the coastal Carolinas. Its not a good trend at this stage of the game to see this. But we'll see if the Euro keeps the longwave trough much sharper and deeper, the GFS sure didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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