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2017 Mountains and Foothills Fall/Winter Thread


Tyler Penland

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GSP updated their WWA. Nothing big, but decent.

 

Avery-Madison-Yancey-Mitchell-

1012 PM EST Sun Jan 28 2018

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM MONDAY TO
10 AM EST TUESDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 1 to 3
  inches are expected, with localized amounts up to 5 inches
  along the higher ridge tops. In addition, very windy
  conditions will develop with northwest winds of 20 to 30 mph,
  and higher elevation gusts of 40 to 50 mph at times....
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9 hours ago, SnoJoe said:

GSP updated their WWA. Nothing big, but decent.

 


Avery-Madison-Yancey-Mitchell-

1012 PM EST Sun Jan 28 2018

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM MONDAY TO
10 AM EST TUESDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 1 to 3
  inches are expected, with localized amounts up to 5 inches
  along the higher ridge tops. In addition, very windy
  conditions will develop with northwest winds of 20 to 30 mph,
  and higher elevation gusts of 40 to 50 mph at times....

I look for Buncombe County to be included in the WWA, you know with rain then snow showers and a low of 22 the roads will be very slick in the morning.  Windchills of 10 in the morning.  

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Looks great at higher elevations, even if the valleys miss out. In addition to orographic lift, PVA creates a quasi-clipper situation. South end of PVA is at or just south of the area, which adds confidence. 700 mb moisture picture is adequate. 850 CAA is strong. Going to be a good 36 hours at elevation. :ski:

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44 minutes ago, nrgjeff said:

Looks great at higher elevations, even if the valleys miss out. In addition to orographic lift, PVA creates a quasi-clipper situation. South end of PVA is at or just south of the area, which adds confidence. 700 mb moisture picture is adequate. 850 CAA is strong. Going to be a good 36 hours at elevation. :ski:

Agreed! This looks to be a robust event (although short-lived).  3km NAM suggests some locations in excess of 6" totals, and likely 1" even in the valleys. Probably the most intense NWFS I have seen this winter.

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Looks great at higher elevations, even if the valleys miss out. In addition to orographic lift, PVA creates a quasi-clipper situation. South end of PVA is at or just south of the area, which adds confidence. 700 mb moisture picture is adequate. 850 CAA is strong. Going to be a good 36 hours at elevation. :ski:


Good analysis here Jeff. Dew points look good at 700mb and that’s what hurt last Monday/Tuesday NWFS potential. 12z 3km NAM has a nice band that breaks containment at the onset around 9-10 tonight. Sort of a quasi clipper type system as you mentioned. Usually the valleys can manage a dusting with a strong onset like what is being shown. I would love for Wolf or Clingmans Dome to top 6”. That would be awesome!
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11 minutes ago, Met1985 said:

The 12z NAM looks very impressive for tonight into tomorrow morning. As mentioned above this looks very robust and pretty intense for this short term uplope event. So look for this to come in fast and heavy with a lot of wind and blowing snow. 

I'm really curious to see if the event is intense enough to push appreciable snow outside of the favored upslope areas.

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M-ping reports showing snow falling in KC, 12z 3km didn’t pick that up. The band to watch is the one developing across the Ohio Valley/Southern Midwest stretching from KC thru Indy. Looks to be overperforming at the moment, let’s see if the trend continues.. All that moisture will bank up the high elevations of WNC, so whatever develops now on radar is heading this way. HRRR also didn’t pick up the KC snow showers.


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15 minutes ago, cold air aloft said:

I'm really curious to see if the event is intense enough to push appreciable snow outside of the favored upslope areas.

I think with as robust as this looks the whole county may get into the fun. I do think that Maggie does good along with the other favored areas. The forcing is so impressive I do not see how most do not do well along the border.

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21 minutes ago, AsheCounty48 said:

I'm still not sold on tonight, or at least in the way you guys are talking. Main reliance for accumulations is the heavy band that moves through at the start, which could very easily underwhelm.

It's going to be interesting for sure. I will say, while nwfs has burnt the Boone area more than once, systems with convective components have always over performed while I've lived here. 

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32 minutes ago, SnoJoe said:

When is this said band supposed to push through?

 

9 minutes ago, AsheCounty48 said:

The last I had heard was sometime around 10 tonight. But that might have changed 

Yeah fellas every thing really develops this evening through the night. I know the radar looks less than stellar currently but things will tick up fast and furious tonight. The 18z again just hammers the upslope areas. I would not be surprised to see some spots over 6 inches with this kind of setup. The forcing the mouture look really good coming from the NW.

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HRRR has us in a 4 to 5 hour window for this to happen, the WRF models have us in it for a little longer, which i think is interesting.
From what I've seen the HRRR struggles with NWFS events. Not sure why but at least on the TT maps it never shows anything. Not sure about the experimental though.

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It's going to be interesting watching this "band" just about disappear coming off the Cumberland Plateau and then magically reappearing when the upper level energy hits the apps and the radar goes "BAM".  Quick 2-3 hours of decent snow along the TN line (and some areas east of there) and then more shallow moisture flow stuff until mid Tuesday AM.

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22 minutes ago, Tyler Penland said:

From what I've seen the HRRR struggles with NWFS events. Not sure why but at least on the TT maps it never shows anything. Not sure about the experimental though.

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I really do not know of a model that does well with upslope moisture. Seems like it's hit or miss around here. 

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