Ginx snewx Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 2:18 AM, CoastalWx said: Those guys made a deal with the devil. Not sure how they can just throw out free data like that unless the lead site developer is sleeping with the head of the ECMWF. Expand Jorge got big bucks https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jörg_Kachelmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 We tried back in the day...never came to a deal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 2:23 AM, dendrite said: They're adding the stratosphere and wave model data on the other site soon too. Pretty crazy what they're doing. They're giving the big middle finger to JB and JoeD'A. Expand I believe they paid a fortune for it. More than the $1M or whatever wxbell had for their license that didn't allow data to be distributed beyond their client base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 2:18 AM, CoastalWx said: Those guys made a deal with the devil. Not sure how they can just throw out free data like that unless the lead site developer is sleeping with the head of the ECMWF. Expand Free this year, then start charging next. For now, it's free drugs to the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 11:16 AM, mitchnick said: Free this year, then start charging next. For now, it's free drugs to the masses. Expand Oh that's what the plan is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 11:17 AM, CoastalWx said: Oh that's what the plan is? Expand Diabolical. It's all fun and games now, but this time next year we'll be all "y'all got anymore of them weather.us maps?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 11:25 AM, OceanStWx said: Diabolical. It's all fun and games now, but this time next year we'll be all "y'all got anymore of them weather.us maps?" Expand Weenies holding out cups asking for more data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 11:17 AM, CoastalWx said: Oh that's what the plan is? Expand A hunch. Could be wrong, but wx info is a product like anything else. I think the internet has shown that business as usual is always subject to change. Traditional models like accuwx, Wxbell, etc. are ripe for attack I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 11:28 AM, mitchnick said: A hunch. Could be wrong, but wx info is a product like anything else. I think the internet has shown that business as usual is always subject to change. Traditional models like accuwx, Wxbell, etc. are ripe for attack I would think. Expand If Joerg Kachelmann can figure out an innovative way to keep it free including forums the entire wx community will migrate over there. And vendors will need to compete. I think no one will be paying in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LurkerBoy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Sleet in NYC. How's the LR looking folks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:06 PM, LurkerBoy said: Sleet in NYC. How's the LR looking folks? Expand Hot, humid, popup storms most days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:05 PM, weathafella said: If Joerg Kachelmann can figure out an innovative way to keep it free including forums the entire wx community will migrate over there. And vendors will need to compete. I think no one will be paying in the near future. Expand They could make a ton in ad revenue if they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:10 PM, dendrite said: They could make a ton in ad revenue if they wanted. Expand Bingo! One would thInk that’s the end game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:06 PM, LurkerBoy said: Sleet in NYC. How's the LR looking folks? Expand FHR 24| 36 48| 60 72| 84 96|108 120|132 144|156 168|180 192 MON 20| TUE 21| WED 22| THU 23| FRI 24| SAT 25| SUN 26| MON 27 CLIMO X/N 80| 72 84| 69 84| 70 82| 68 82| 66 81| 64 79| 62 77 63 79 TMP 76| 74 78| 71 77| 73 75| 70 75| 67 74| 65 71| 63 71 DPT 66| 67 68| 68 68| 70 68| 66 65| 63 62| 59 56| 57 57 CLD OV| OV OV| PC PC| OV OV| OV PC| PC PC| CL CL| CL CL WND 12| 10 9| 5 7| 5 9| 4 6| 5 7| 5 8| 6 9 P12 35| 58 51| 30 18| 32 51| 42 26| 28 21| 18 12| 7 9 19 18 P24 | 77| 37| 56| 52| 32| 24| 12 29 Q12 0| 2 1| 0 0| 1 2| 1 0| 1 0| 0 | Q24 | 3| 1| 2| 1| 0| | T12 9| 23 22| 8 12| 7 19| 13 9| 4 4| 2 4| 2 2 T24 | 23 | 26 | 15 | 26 | 9 | 7 | 4 PZP 0| 0 0| 1 0| 0 1| 0 0| 1 1| 0 0| 0 0 PSN 0| 1 0| 0 0| 0 0| 0 0| 0 0| 3 0| 0 0 PRS 0| 0 0| 0 0| 1 0| 0 1| 0 0| 0 1| 1 0 TYP R| R R| R R| R R| R R| R R| R R| R R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Party in the city where the heat is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 All weather data will be free in coming days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 2:18 AM, CoastalWx said: Those guys made a deal with the devil. Not sure how they can just throw out free data like that unless the lead site developer is sleeping with the head of the ECMWF. Expand front-load or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:11 PM, weathafella said: Bingo! One would thInk that’s the end game. Expand That's what they did at YouTube to start, now they offer ad free if you pay. Pay only at YouTube seems to be the natural progression from here. Whether it gets to that point, only time will tell. YouTube has a huge audience, unlike weather, which is more of a niche. As a result, I think Weather.us won't have as easy a time of it like YouTube. In the meantime, we enjoy the free maps at the expense of Accuwx, Wxbell, Storm Vista, and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:35 PM, Damage In Tolland said: All weather data will be free in coming days Expand Except for the Euro, it mostly is already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:47 PM, mitchnick said: That's what they did at YouTube to start, now they offer ad free if you pay. Pay only at YouTube seems to be the natural progression from here. Whether it gets to that point, only time will tell. YouTube has a huge audience, unlike weather, which is more of a niche. As a result, I think Weather.us won't have as easy a time of it like YouTube. In the meantime, we enjoy the free maps at the expense of Accuwx, Wxbell, Storm Vista, and the like. Expand Pay only at Youtube will be the start of their death. Other free sites will spring up and take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LurkerBoy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:08 PM, weathafella said: Hot, humid, popup storms most days. Expand On 11/20/2017 at 12:21 PM, CoastalWx said: FHR 24| 36 48| 60 72| 84 96|108 120|132 144|156 168|180 192 MON 20| TUE 21| WED 22| THU 23| FRI 24| SAT 25| SUN 26| MON 27 CLIMO X/N 80| 72 84| 69 84| 70 82| 68 82| 66 81| 64 79| 62 77 63 79 TMP 76| 74 78| 71 77| 73 75| 70 75| 67 74| 65 71| 63 71 DPT 66| 67 68| 68 68| 70 68| 66 65| 63 62| 59 56| 57 57 CLD OV| OV OV| PC PC| OV OV| OV PC| PC PC| CL CL| CL CL WND 12| 10 9| 5 7| 5 9| 4 6| 5 7| 5 8| 6 9 P12 35| 58 51| 30 18| 32 51| 42 26| 28 21| 18 12| 7 9 19 18 P24 | 77| 37| 56| 52| 32| 24| 12 29 Q12 0| 2 1| 0 0| 1 2| 1 0| 1 0| 0 | Q24 | 3| 1| 2| 1| 0| | T12 9| 23 22| 8 12| 7 19| 13 9| 4 4| 2 4| 2 2 T24 | 23 | 26 | 15 | 26 | 9 | 7 | 4 PZP 0| 0 0| 1 0| 0 1| 0 0| 1 1| 0 0| 0 0 PSN 0| 1 0| 0 0| 0 0| 0 0| 0 0| 3 0| 0 0 PRS 0| 0 0| 0 0| 1 0| 0 1| 0 0| 0 1| 1 0 TYP R| R R| R R| R R| R R| R R| R R| R R Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 11:16 AM, mitchnick said: Free this year, then start charging next. For now, it's free drugs to the masses. Expand Who told you that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:05 PM, weathafella said: If Joerg Kachelmann can figure out an innovative way to keep it free including forums the entire wx community will migrate over there. And vendors will need to compete. I think no one will be paying in the near future. Expand thats my understanding Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I think you have Your answer Lurkerboy. You know theres "Not Much happening" when the talk is all about Free Data on the Model Mehham site...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I mean you have to give kudos to a lifelong weenie who’s making it cash in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 2:05 PM, WinterWolf said: I think you have Your answer Lurkerboy. You know theres "Not Much happening" when the talk is all about Free Data on the Model Mehham site...lol. Expand A better answer is no changes and no credible threats within 5 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Yup thats the take away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I'm actually astounded at the Euro (operational) warmth across the conus. Particularly that day 8 bulge extending out from the SW into the Plains' ...almost looks like a hybrid/prelude to a Sonora heat release, as the previous two or so days caps the SW air mass, the model thinks its May apparently ..., heats it to Hades and back, then threatens to roll it out on eastward with that Rosby reposition that's hinted (frankly) in all models for that matter. Not sure if that's for real, but if so, would that dictate the anomaly distribution for the first half of December, or be something more transient...? I'm reeeasonably high confident few in here have noticed... could be wrong. It's subtle; I'd almost have to be in front of a monitor with an index finger in one hand, and a mouse clicking in the other to demo where/why that is.. But, a Rosby roll-out could transpire beginning shortly after TG that could tug a day or two (or more) of near record warmth. Yet, with little present teleconnector indication for that - it's why I think transient if at all. Anyway, +20C over Kansas ...not sure what the return rate is on that for post the ides of November, but, I got to think that is getting increasingly verified ...and by the time any such model solution would verify, it's nearing Dec 1 anyway. Canadian GGEM looks similar in that regard. The GFS has the roll-out wave/ridging but as usual, mutes the significance of the warm air it is toting with it...but structurally it is in support. Meanwhile, why is the operational Euro attenuating all northern Hemisphere cold beyond D6/7 ? It's got the general circumvallate of -16C everywhere, with small and large pockets nearing -30C as it should, then...the whole domain region in those freebie runs seems to up and modify upwards by an average of 10C. Wouldn't it be an awesome sci-fi if the every day operational forecast models actually modeled the threshold crossing of the GW death dial - haha. jokin' around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Damn-I have to get a job like Tip’s-time to really write! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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