dryslot Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Probably should start Jebwalking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 hours ago, forkyfork said: i wonder how many old heat records are tainted by poor siting Yeah...ASOS is roided up with forced aspiration and instrumentation so responsive that they need to keep running 5 minute averages to represent the current temp. It's kinda apples and oranges compared to the late 19th century and first half of the 20th century using passive stevenson screens and liquid thermometers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Used the pool again for a bit this afternoon. Sun was strong, cloudless sky I actually fell asleep floating on a giant pizza wedge for a few minutes. Was an odd experience having leaves turning and falling and floating in a pool like it was August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, dendrite said: Yeah...ASOS is roided up with forced aspiration and instrumentation so responsive that they need to keep running 5 minute averages to represent the current temp. It's kinda apples and oranges compared to the late 19th century and first half of the 20th century using passive stevenson screens and liquid thermometers. I started with a Stevenson/Cotton Region Shelter in 1985 with liquid thermometers and still use them today specifically so I can compare readings. The only thing different is the siting due to moves but I think it's important to be able to compare data to use the same equipment. I do make sure the readings are still valid with a reference instrument though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: Scary to think this will be normal for autumn moving forward https://imgur.com/a/nBUBp We may never see cold again....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 55/89 here today. Impressive heat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Back-to-back 84's at the Pit on Sunday and Monday. We'll see what today brings. Currently it's 64.3 at 2:45.m.--totally blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 66F here with dense fog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Sugarloaf1989 said: 66F here with dense fog. 61° here this morning. The fog was interesting as it was fairly dense driving across town but around 800' it cleared and there was clear blue skies with the sun shining above that. I expected to hit the fog on the other side of the mountain but I never really did until I got down to around 300'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, MetHerb said: 61° here this morning. The fog was interesting as it was fairly dense driving across town but around 800' it cleared and there was clear blue skies with the sun shining above that. I expected to hit the fog on the other side of the mountain but I never really did until I got down to around 300'. Yeah I went running at 4:30 and it was completely clear and starlit and 65. All the fog was in the valleys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 12 hours ago, MetHerb said: I started with a Stevenson/Cotton Region Shelter in 1985 with liquid thermometers and still use them today specifically so I can compare readings. The only thing different is the siting due to moves but I think it's important to be able to compare data to use the same equipment. I do make sure the readings are still valid with a reference instrument though. Can't say what the Farmington co-op observer uses, but there's still a Cotton Region shelter in his front yard. Very dense fog, visibility <1/8 mile, for the morning drive, though it cleared out from Belgrade south. This month has edged ahead of 2015 for 2nd mildest of 20 Septembers, but remains 1.3F cooler than 1999. Unless these last 5 days run nearly +15, we'll not catch #1 - today and tomorrow will hold serve (yesterday was +17), but by Fri-Sat temps should be back near normal, which is 63/41 for those dates. Despite the wet start, the month will probably finish a bit BN, as we're 0.26" below the average and short of catching one of the isolated TS, we won't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Pinnacle Mtn, Stowe. Thanks PF for the recommendation. Damn sticky and sweaty hike. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 29 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Pinnacle Mtn, Stowe. Thanks PF for the recommendation. Damn sticky and sweaty hike. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Nice! Yeah that's gotta be a hot one today. I'm going up to Montreal for a flight to Munich (Montreal is a great option for us here at 1.5hrs away and several hundred dollars cheaper thanks to the exchange rate) and there's no relief from the heat by any Cu clouds today. Just hazy hot and humid in all directions. Just the one lone cloud trying to fight the cap over Mansfield's ridgeline, haha. Also, just think, you waited till late September to visit and got the hottest weather of the entire year, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Related to what @powderfreak was posting yesterday about mins on Mansfield, MWN has thrown up some mid to upper 50s lows the last couple of mornings. So far today's 57 is tied for the warmest September low of all time. And they are 66 (T6th) at the moment, just 3 shy of the warmest September high of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 We are probably going to make the 3rd consecutive 90F in Burlington today. The lake beaches are closed now due to a blue-green algae bloom to add insult to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 19C on MWN right now....JHFC. That is close to their all-time record high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, dendrite said: 19C on MWN right now....JHFC. That is close to their all-time record high. See above. 69 in 1999 all time September high, 72 the overall record high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, OceanStWx said: See above. 69 in 1999 all time September high, 72 the overall record high. heh...totally missed your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 btw...is there a reason we don't have MWN data in the nowdata tab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, dendrite said: heh...totally missed your post. 1 minute ago, dendrite said: btw...is there a reason we don't have MWN data in the nowdata tab? I don't know to be honest. It may have to do with the fact that it doesn't act like a normal coop/ASOS because of how the data gets recorded. The report officially to NCEI twice a day, so sometimes data like snowfall gets double counted until the morning report comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 What did they do with the GFS to make it run so warm? It's also been going bonkers with mixing. Like I was looking at tomorrow and the GFS hints at mixing up to around 5000' for Waterbury, CT yielding a high in the mid-80's. The NAM is mixing to around like 2000'+ and a high in the upper 70's lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, weatherwiz said: What did they do with the GFS to make it run so warm? It's also been going bonkers with mixing. Like I was looking at tomorrow and the GFS hints at mixing up to around 5000' for Waterbury, CT yielding a high in the mid-80's. The NAM is mixing to around like 2000'+ and a high in the upper 70's lol Tomorrow looks warm. 5kft isn't that high for mixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Looks like 19.2C (67F) for a max so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, dendrite said: Tomorrow looks warm. 5kft isn't that high for mixing. Just went back to the NAM and mixed to just below 5000' and got a high of 87 which I think is what I got on the GFS too. There are some things I need to further explore one day. I mean look at the difference here between the NAM and GFS: This is MADDENING\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: What did they do with the GFS to make it run so warm? It's also been going bonkers with mixing. Like I was looking at tomorrow and the GFS hints at mixing up to around 5000' for Waterbury, CT yielding a high in the mid-80's. The NAM is mixing to around like 2000'+ and a high in the upper 70's lol 6 minutes ago, dendrite said: Tomorrow looks warm. 5kft isn't that high for mixing. NAM appears to have swung and missed badly for today. MET for CON was 83 (currently 89), MAV was 90. And those were the 00z (MET) and 06z (MAV) bulletins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, OceanStWx said: NAM appears to have swung and missed badly for today. MET for CON was 83 (currently 89), MAV was 90. And those were the 00z (MET) and 06z (MAV) bulletins. I hope that isn't the case for PVD b/c I used the NAM bufkit for my forecast high there today in the wx challenge. I got 81 and that's what they're at now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, weatherwiz said: Just went back to the NAM and mixed to just below 5000' and got a high of 87 which I think is what I got on the GFS too. There are some things I need to further explore one day. I mean look at the difference here between the NAM and GFS: This is MADDENING\ That's part of forecasting, identifying which is right (or more right anyway). For instance, is there a specific reason why mixing would be lower than today on Wednesday? If anything with the approach of the cold front, stronger winds may increase mixing from today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, weatherwiz said: I hope that isn't the case for PVD b/c I used the NAM bufkit for my forecast high there today in the wx challenge. I got 81 and that's what they're at now I was going to sign up for that as an alum this season and forgot. But ocean influence can certainly mitigate that mixing. The MAV/MET for PVD was not as stark as some of the more inland sites though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, OceanStWx said: NAM appears to have swung and missed badly for today. MET for CON was 83 (currently 89), MAV was 90. And those were the 00z (MET) and 06z (MAV) bulletins. Yeah...the NAM generates some strange mixing issues with sun during the warm season sometimes. When it looks warm and the MET is way under the MAV I toss the MET further than my long island iced teas, off the side of the highway in Sherbrooke, in the late 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxBlue Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, weatherwiz said: I hope that isn't the case for PVD b/c I used the NAM bufkit for my forecast high there today in the wx challenge. I got 81 and that's what they're at now I've noticed NAM MOS haven't been reliable in WxChallenge since second half of the previous season started. They're still at 81 so you might get lucky (I had 83). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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