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August 2017 Observations & Discussion Thread


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7 minutes ago, JerseyWx said:

The sun poked out occasionally, but nonetheless it remained mostly cloudy throughout the day.  Forecast low for Tuesday is 55 here.

NWS has a high of 69F here tomorrow with the rain...that's pretty chilly for the Bronx in early August. Average high is still 84-85F in the warmer parts of the NYC Metro area. 

Though the summer hasn't been "cold" in terms of huge departures, it's been very moderate. The one real shot of heat was back in June 11-13 when LGA hit 101F. Central Park has a high of 94F for Summer 2017, rather unimpressive. However, June was +0.6F and July was +0.3F, so we are actually slightly above normal for the summer. There is a good chance August will be below normal though. Not seeing any signs of heat through 8/15. Most were thinking August would be the coolest month, unlike last summer when we had the torch August.

So many of us are used to summers that are +2 to +3 that normal actually feels kind of cool. A lot of us have forgotten with torch summers like 1999, 2002, 2005, 2010, 2011, 2012 etc. that a typical summer here isn't brutal heat and strings of 90s, but alteration between hot days and cooler ones like tomorrow.

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2 hours ago, nzucker said:

NWS has a high of 69F here tomorrow with the rain...that's pretty chilly for the Bronx in early August. Average high is still 84-85F in the warmer parts of the NYC Metro area. 

Though the summer hasn't been "cold" in terms of huge departures, it's been very moderate. The one real shot of heat was back in June 11-13 when LGA hit 101F. Central Park has a high of 94F for Summer 2017, rather unimpressive. However, June was +0.6F and July was +0.3F, so we are actually slightly above normal for the summer. There is a good chance August will be below normal though. Not seeing any signs of heat through 8/15. Most were thinking August would be the coolest month, unlike last summer when we had the torch August.

So many of us are used to summers that are +2 to +3 that normal actually feels kind of cool. A lot of us have forgotten with torch summers like 1999, 2002, 2005, 2010, 2011, 2012 etc. that a typical summer here isn't brutal heat and strings of 90s, but alteration between hot days and cooler ones like tomorrow.

Since Spring, it seems that we've been getting bursts of very below normal departures days.  Tomorrow is a great example, and I remember a lot of chilly days in May, June, and even July (such as the 25th when it failed to get out of the 60's here).

Despite being relatively close to normal like you said, it feels as if we're below.  I think the clouds and rainy days have played a part in that.

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5 minutes ago, Morris said:

Was thinking a lot about this. Yeah.

Yeah the warmer SSTs today along with the enhanced UHI in Brooklyn/Queens where there has been massive amounts of development (both near the Barkley Center and along the water) seem to keep it from getting too cold in the summer in these parts anymore. 

This is a pretty good pattern for cool departures in the summer with a strong ridge over the PAC NW. Though we've also seen more of a +AO. Our last really cold summer, 2009, had more of a -AO. We've seen a really strong vortex over the Arctic, which, along with the global and development factors, do make it harder to force a lot of cooler air into the CONUS. 

We might get a negative departure out of August, but it may also follow the pattern of sneaking a bit above...should get decent minus departure tomorrow but then it's back to like 83/66 days which are around normal. Averages also start to decline a bit after 8/10.

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3 hours ago, forkyfork said:

i thought the war would eventually win out but that western ridge kept the trough too close. 30 years ago this summer probably would have been well below average

The 1951-1980 dataset was fairly cool though...though it did include extremely warm summers in 1955 and 1966 (the hottest on record until recently)...but it still would have been judged against an overall lower average than the 2010s.

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