Chinook Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 According to what I am seeing, 90-99% sun coverage will track through Iowa, and some of Illinois and Indiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said: Omg 2024 it goes directly over WNY!!! I was thinking about driving to the one in August, but I can be patient. I'd still try to get to totality next month if at all possible. I'm stoked about 2024 being a stone's throw away and a better eclipse in general, but seven years is a long time and ya just never know what the future holds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Pretty cool 360° view of an eclipse in Indonesia last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Very well done video here. The last half of it is particularly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 4, 2017 Author Share Posted July 4, 2017 On 7/1/2017 at 6:26 PM, Hoosier said: I have heard that hotels in/near the totality zone are filling up fast, especially out west where clouds are climatologically less likely. Fortunately, many of us live close enough to be able to drive to the totality zone on the same day. Obviously, weather will be so critical. Hopefully the weather pattern is such that clouds will be at a minimum. I was poking around just for the heck of it, and it looks like hotels are filling up fast in the path of totality in MO/IL/KY, and what is left seems to be charging higher rates compared to what they typically do. Areas on the fringe or outside (say St. Louis) have more openings, at least for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Hoosier said: I was poking around just for the heck of it, and it looks like hotels are filling up fast in the path of totality in MO/IL/KY, and what is left seems to be charging higher rates compared to what they typically do. Areas on the fringe or outside (say St. Louis) have more openings, at least for now. I managed to reserve a room in downtown Nashville in case I do decide to make the trip, and they're all charging no less than $300/night. Even then, I pretty much lucked up as every other hotel in the downtown and midtown area is just about completely booked. In fact, I heard the schools in Sumner County (in Metro Nashville) will shut down for the day, in anticipation of all of the traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just booked a room in southern Iowa (Osceola) for Sun night. Less than a 2hr drive to the center from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Booking a room in St. Louis and hoping I won't need it. If the weather looks like it's going to be questionable in the IL/KY area, I will head to St. Louis on Sunday so that I can leave from there on Monday and head west in Missouri or into Kansas/Nebraska if necessary. The good thing is that almost all of I-70 in Missouri is in the path of totality, so it wouldn't matter if I-70 turns into a traffic jam by some chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Will be at work at the PD during this. I am certain some crazy stuff will happen, but at least I will be outdoors on patrol and should be able to position myself well to enjoy the near total up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowtie` Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Hoosier said: ..., so it wouldn't matter if I-70 turns into a traffic jam by some chance. I would go with a 100% chance of a parking lot somewhere on I-70. Can you guess the number of distracted drivers during the event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 13 hours ago, bowtie` said: I would go with a 100% chance of a parking lot somewhere on I-70. Can you guess the number of distracted drivers during the event? Yeah, could be an issue. Hopefully people pull over. I was thinking about something. Imagine somebody traveling through who has no idea about the eclipse (hard to imagine with the publicity it will be getting but just for the sake of argument). They will be wondering what the heck is going on lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 5 weeks from today. I hope we have weather like we're having around here today. Not a cloud in the sky. People like us are going to have an advantage over others. Not only will we be checking forecasts, but we can also dig into the models to get a sense of the pattern and how things can go wrong. For example, a progged MCS regime that ends up farther south than thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 39 minutes ago, Hoosier said: 5 weeks from today. I hope we have weather like we're having around here today. Not a cloud in the sky. People like us are going to have an advantage over others. Not only will we be checking forecasts, but we can also dig into the models to get a sense of the pattern and how things can go wrong. For example, a progged MCS regime that ends up farther south than thought. Worst case, it then becomes a storm-chasing trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knitwx Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 My sister is a wiccan witch . We are heading to Carhenge in Nebraska. Thousands of wicca people are converging there. I'm not wiccan. But it should be fun anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowtie` Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Nuts, I rescheduled a teeth cleaning today due to conflict with vacation. Just realized that they picked the 21st. Well it is for 10a.m. so I should be done before the fireworks start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Powerball said: Worst case, it then becomes a storm-chasing trip. Boo. Though if you just want to see how dark it can get during the day, I have read that cloudy conditions will make the surroundings even darker during an eclipse, especially if there's also clouds on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 On July 17, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Hoosier said: 5 weeks from today. I hope we have weather like we're having around here today. Not a cloud in the sky. People like us are going to have an advantage over others. Not only will we be checking forecasts, but we can also dig into the models to get a sense of the pattern and how things can go wrong. For example, a progged MCS regime that ends up farther south than thought. With the weather advantage, all of the eclipse experts have all the sophisticated weather resources you would want, there are special weather products coming just for the eclipse from various people including a met here in Canada. The average viewer may not use or know about the various sites that will start operational forecasts, but all the experts will. I have to keep reminding myself its not just weather systems and pulses, its plain clouds that might form which is far more insane to pinpoint to the exact spots within 1 minute intervals. On July 17, 2017 at 5:59 PM, bowtie` said: Nuts, I rescheduled a teeth cleaning today due to conflict with vacation. Just realized that they picked the 21st. Well it is for 10a.m. so I should be done before the fireworks start. Even if your very close to the path of totality (in IN), there is no chance you will make it if you have an appointment at 10 am (even a 30 min drive). The traffic gridlock will be beyond anything you can envision. I think it'll be the worst in southern IL and MO but in places like OR the emergency management for that state who aren't blowing hot air, state if you live 2 hours outside the 70 mile path - leave SATURDAY evening to get there at 11 am MONDAY on the west coast. So a 2 hour drive would take 32-36 hours!!! No one really knows what's going to happen but once there was a 3 day traffic jam in China so its not impossible to get this kind of traffic. On July 17, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Hoosier said: Boo. Though if you just want to see how dark it can get during the day, I have read that cloudy conditions will make the surroundings even darker during an eclipse, especially if there's also clouds on the horizon. I woke up one day with that question and read that if its a dense overcast during totality it will be so dark you won't know your way around. Can't say if that's true for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 41 minutes ago, Torchageddon said: I woke up one day with that question and read that if its a dense overcast during totality it will be so dark you won't know your way around. Can't say if that's true for certain. This umbral shadow will be rather small, so as far as eclipses go, totality won't be particularly under clear skies – if you're standing at the centerline, it should still be quite bright around the entire horizon. As a rule, the eclipsed sun's corona is roughly as bright as the full moon. Overcast and a full moon would be navigable if your eyes are well adjusted to the dark, but with the light-switch action of totality, yeah... would be difficult to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 Too early? I wouldn't mind seeing a massive intense ridge in the area, as that would tend to be a high confidence low/no cloud pattern. Don't have it on that run though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 17 hours ago, Hoosier said: Too early? I wouldn't mind seeing a massive intense ridge in the area, as that would tend to be a high confidence low/no cloud pattern. Don't have it on that run though. That's a decent setup also, as the area under the total eclipse would be in the subsidence region of that trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Have been looking at some potential target locations in my favored zone (want to be as close to the center line as possible and not in the middle of nowhere, but not in a place with too many obstructions/artificial light). Seems like a lot of towns in the path are having special viewing areas and giving out tickets for that. How can you know exactly where you'll end up given potential weather issues?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxMatt21 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 21 hours ago, Hoosier said: Have been looking at some potential target locations in my favored zone (want to be as close to the center line as possible and not in the middle of nowhere, but not in a place with too many obstructions/artificial light). Seems like a lot of towns in the path are having special viewing areas and giving out tickets for that. How can you know exactly where you'll end up given potential weather issues?! Exactly! I'm going down to Carbondale, IL, with a photographer to cover the event, but knowing my luck it won't be clear or super stormy...we'll be stuck under thick cloud over with light rain most of the day Hoping for the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 This is interesting. Some uncertainty on the exact size of the sun. https://www.space.com/37611-solar-eclipse-2017-sun-bigger-than-we-think.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 02.07.2017 at 7:48 PM, Hoosier said: Looking at videos of past total eclipses, it's not difficult to imagine how people many hundreds/thousands of years ago before scientific understanding would've been scared to death at what was happening. Not only with how dark it gets, but how fast it goes from sorta dim to really dark. This was really terrifying for people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Here's another cool map from greatamericaneclipse.com showing the paths of all total solar eclipses in the US since 1776. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 Question for someone with intimate knowledge of the models. Does NWP make any attempt to account for the loss of incoming sunlight during an eclipse and thus, the temperature decrease that commences shortly before totality? I know that it's pretty common to have temperature drops on the order of 5-15 degrees depending on time of day and other factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 7/2/2017 at 11:16 AM, Hoosier said: Here is some news coverage from the last total solar eclipse in the lower 48. They mentioned that the next one wouldn't be until 8/21/2017. Well, Frank Reynolds called this 38 years in advance haha http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/solar-eclipse-abc-news-david-muir-1202512760/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 Some of the research being done during this eclipse http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/news/a27591/total-solar-eclipse-2017-science/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Long vid, but pretty informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 Almost getting into the end of the GFS timeframe. What's being advertised at the very end of tonight's 00z run would cause some concern rolling forward... pretty stout ridge but the placement is not ideal... could be vulnerable to convective concerns on the northern edges. Fortunately this is a 16 day prog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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