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1 hour ago, cyclone77 said:

89'd here and at MLI as well.  Had 90 in the bag until the mid-level cloud deck rolled in.  

Agree with kind of a meh weather pattern the next 10 days.  

Only 80 here today as thick clouds moved in early and stayed through late afternoon.

Yeah, the upcoming pattern looks decent, but zzzz.  I hope we can get some rain out of the early to midweek disturbance.  Most of it should miss south.

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Interesting that NWS CLE has surveyed some microburst wind damage on June 29th. This is close to my brother's house.

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Public Information Statement
National Weather Service Cleveland OH
220 PM EDT Fri Jun 30 2017

...MICROBURST/STRAIGHT LINE WIND DAMAGE CONFIRMED IN PLAIN AND
LAKE TOWNSHIPS IN STARK COUNTY OHIO...

Location...Plain and Lake Townships in Stark County Ohio
Date...June 29, 2017
Estimated Time...9:07 pm EDT
Estimated Maximum Wind Speed...70-75 mph
Maximum Path Width...0.20 mi
Path Length...0.85 mi
* Fatalities...0
* Injuries...0

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Overachived a bit, topping out at 88. Based on TWC and given the warm bias in the medium and long ranges of the models, especially yesterday's 18Z, 00Z, and today's 06Z editions of the GFS, this is likely just about the highest DAY will get throughout the 2/3 of this July, if not the whole month.

 

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The next 2 weeks look to lean on the cool side. I'm really liking this summer. Been outside more time this summer than any of the last 3. Aside from work.

Just noticed last June was actually 1.5F cooler. Maybe it's a lack of humidity. 

Shrug

 

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Overachived a bit, topping out at 88. Based on TWC and given the warm bias in the medium and long ranges of the models, especially yesterday's 18Z, 00Z, and today's 06Z editions of the GFS, this is likely just about the highest DAY will get throughout the 2/3 of this July, if not the whole month.

 

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lol
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4 hours ago, Spartman said:

Overachived a bit, topping out at 88. Based on TWC and given the warm bias in the medium and long ranges of the models, especially yesterday's 18Z, 00Z, and today's 06Z editions of the GFS, this is likely just about the highest DAY will get throughout the 2/3 of this July, if not the whole month.

 

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TWC... Starting to think you are a troll when you keep posting the same thing and are oblivious to others calling it out.

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15 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

An absolutely perfect 4th of July. Temps started out in the upper 50s and we will top out 80-82 with clear, blue skies and very low humidity. This will be Detroit's 4th consecutive 4th of July with below normal temps, but not too long ago in 2012 we saw a record high of 102.

Such an awesome 4th of July that was too...

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40 minutes ago, Powerball said:

Such an awesome 4th of July that was too...

LMAO...umm...NO!

 

Some other 4th of July weather facts for Detroit:

 

The coldest 4th of July was 1972 with a high of 67 an low of 49. That is both the record low and record low max for the day.

 

While 2012 was the hottest 4th of July, the low that day was still 71F. There were 10 4th of July's with warmer lows. Without looking at daily obs, the below 3 just reek of oppressive humidity:

1897: 94/77

1921: 95/79

1949: 97/77

 

Apple cider would have been more appropriate than apple pie in 1882, 1936, 1967, 1972, and 1997 when highs stayed in the 60s! They had NO idea what they were in for a few days later in 1936.

 

The most consecutive 4ths with 90F+ was 5 when each year 1899 to 1903 hit 90F+.

The most consecutive 4ths withOUT 90F was 18, when 1956 through 1973 did not see 90s on Independance Day.

 

The most severe weather on the 4th was 1969, when 2.38" hit DTW and severe storms were reported throughout the area.

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7 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

LMAO...umm...NO!

 

Some other 4th of July weather facts for Detroit:

 

The coldest 4th of July was 1972 with a high of 67 an low of 49. That is both the record low and record low max for the day.

 

While 2012 was the hottest 4th of July, the low that day was still 71F. There were 10 4th of July's with warmer lows. Without looking at daily obs, the below 3 just reek of oppressive humidity:

1897: 94/77

1921: 95/79

1949: 97/77

 

Apple cider would have been more appropriate than apple pie in 1882, 1936, 1967, 1972, and 1997 when highs stayed in the 60s!

 

The most consecutive 4ths with 90F+ was 5 when each year 1899 to 1903 hit 90F+.

The most consecutive 4ths withOUT 90F was 18, when 1956 through 1973 did not see 90s on Independance Day.

 

The most severe weather on the 4th was 1969, when 2.38" hit DTW and severe storms were reported throughout the area.

As far as the bolded, 2012 was more stormy with a couple rounds of severe weather. During the late afternoon hours, after temps surged into the low 100s, multi-cell storms rapdly popped up over the heart of the metro area producing numerous reports of large hail and 3-4" of rain (within 2 hours) along the I-75 corridor from downtown to Ferndale. Then, later that night between 3-5am, a bow-echo more through producing numerous high wind reports leaving thousands of people without power 

It's just that, despite smacking Detroit proper and the immediate surrounding suburbs hard, the storms in 2012 were mostly north and east of DTW,

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5 hours ago, Powerball said:

Such an awesome 4th of July that was too...

It sucked.

My parents had a rental cottage on Higgins lake with no A.C. We ended up getting a hotel room in Roscommon so we could sleep. During the day time it was so miserable and I don't consider sitting in a lake a viable solution to heat. I mean, for an hour maybe.

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4 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

LMAO...umm...NO!

 

Some other 4th of July weather facts for Detroit:

 

The coldest 4th of July was 1972 with a high of 67 an low of 49. That is both the record low and record low max for the day.

 

While 2012 was the hottest 4th of July, the low that day was still 71F. There were 10 4th of July's with warmer lows. Without looking at daily obs, the below 3 just reek of oppressive humidity:

1897: 94/77

1921: 95/79

1949: 97/77

 

Apple cider would have been more appropriate than apple pie in 1882, 1936, 1967, 1972, and 1997 when highs stayed in the 60s! They had NO idea what they were in for a few days later in 1936.

 

The most consecutive 4ths with 90F+ was 5 when each year 1899 to 1903 hit 90F+.

The most consecutive 4ths withOUT 90F was 18, when 1956 through 1973 did not see 90s on Independance Day.

 

The most severe weather on the 4th was 1969, when 2.38" hit DTW and severe storms were reported throughout the area.

I think we pulled off a sub 70 degree high just a few years ago, but that's out side the heat island.

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Oddity of the night: both ORD and DTW reporting "Smoke" due to atmospheric conditions causing the 4th of July fireworks smoke in the respective cities to linger at ground level.


Happens almost every year.

Usually it's with near calm conditions, but last night there was still a light breeze while displays were ongoing.
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9 hours ago, IthielZ said:

Oddity of the night: both ORD and DTW reporting "Smoke" due to atmospheric conditions causing the 4th of July fireworks smoke in the respective cities to linger at ground level.

Must have been a hell of a lot of sparklers in Illinois to get to that point. Michigan has real legal fireworks and I can imagine this happening at DTW.

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On 7/4/2017 at 11:33 AM, Powerball said:

As far as the bolded, 2012 was more stormy with a couple rounds of severe weather. During the late afternoon hours, after temps surged into the low 100s, multi-cell storms rapdly popped up over the heart of the metro area producing numerous reports of large hail and 3-4" of rain (within 2 hours) along the I-75 corridor from downtown to Ferndale. Then, later that night between 3-5am, a bow-echo more through producing numerous high wind reports leaving thousands of people without power 

It's just that, despite smacking Detroit proper and the immediate surrounding suburbs hard, the storms in 2012 were mostly north and east of DTW,

I actually got quite the storm on July 4, 2012 (while DTW 7 miles west didnt get a drop). But July 4, 1969 had severe hail, tornadoes, and derechos. My mom was 11 an she can remember it. It was quite the outbreak on that day, surprised you have never heard of it.

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18 hours ago, CCM said:

It pretty much takes record blocking for us to have BN temperatures nowadays. And as soon as a "cool stretch" ends we start breaking records lol. 

We have been in a warm stretch for since late 2015. Prior to that we were in a cool stretch (Feb 2013 - Mar 2017 DTW had 25 AN months and 25 BN months). Im sure you were being facetious but it does not take record blocking to get BN temps lol. Looking at computerized monthly outlooks for the next several months, nothing extreme either way (doesnt mean it cant happen though).

 

Im summer I really dont care. I always prefer cooler than normal but it does not make or break my day regardless how the weather is. A notable trend (which has to do with both humidity and Urban Heat Island) is that summer overnight low temps are increasing much more than high temps. This summer has been for the most part comfortable here, and very likely could end up below the average amount of 90s but with a positive temp departure. Thats in no way a forecast btw. Just saying. There has actually been no real impressive heat here locally and there is none in sight. We have had 3 days of 90F so far, all in June, max 92F.

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