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On 6/21/2017 at 1:10 PM, Juliancolton said:

Last night was epic for astrophotography with some clouds to the south blocking much of NYC's light pollution. Some of the best Milky Way detail I've been able to capture in years...

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Wow that's amazing!  The best weather for AP is usually in the early part of the fall around here.  I saw that bank of clouds south of me (I think they were in south NJ) and you could see them near the horizon but they never budged from there.  Low humidity too, which helps with viewing.  I HATE humidity.  I'd much rather have 100 degrees and 30% humidity over 80 degrees and 80% humidity.  High humidity causes me to have  allergic attacks so I have to keep dehumidifiers and ionizers running continuously.

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On 6/16/2017 at 8:12 PM, psv88 said:

It's not about the length of days. There's a reason late July is peak heat and late January is peak cold. It's about incoming insolation v. Outgoing radiation back into space. We keep getting hotter until we lose more heat than we gain (or the balance changes). The reverse is true in winter. 

The solstice is not our peak heat or even close to it. This is earth science 101

It depends where you're located.  In a lot of desert areas the hottest time of year is late May to about late June because monsoon season sets in after that.   Even if it doesn't rain in those places, the monsoon causes higher humidity and clouds which cause a slower rise in temps. That's why you see a lot of record highs in the desert SW and in other parts of the world in June.  I think Death Valley hit 128 the other day.

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On 6/14/2017 at 9:34 PM, dWave said:

I didnt realize heat bursts can occur during winter too, or so I read.

I wonder if there's such a thing as a "cold burst"?

What are the highest temps from the record heat out west? The highest I've found is 128 in Death Valley, which matches the highest recorded in the Near East with their heat wave back in late May (128 in Turbat, Pakistan, unless they updated that to 129, which would match the highest temperature ever recorded that we are completely sure about.)

 

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On 6/16/2017 at 7:15 PM, SnoSki14 said:

There's a difference though between heat now vs. September. The sun isn't as strong and the heat is usually fleeting by then while in late June/July it's only the beginning. 

As of now there's nothing that indicates any big time heat and 90s look rather scarce. 

Typically our hottest temps come from about July 4th weekend to about the 24th of July.  There is a scarcity of triple digit record highs in the last week of July.

We've seen temps in the upper 90s at the start of September (2010 for instance) and 99 as late as the middle of September or even later (like 1983).  102 in Sept 1954 during our longest ever heatwave.

 

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2 hours ago, doncat said:

Every month but February has had above normal precip here this year...up to 30.10" so far.

We should have a contest on how long it will take for our next 10 inch deluge storm or month. The Islip deluge in August 2014 was the last storm to produce 10"+ around the area. Before that the last 10" spread over a month was June 2013. 

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9 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We should have a contest on how long it will take for our next 10 inch deluge storm or month. The Islip deluge in August 2014 was the last storm to produce 10"+ around the area. Before that the last 10" spread over a month was June 2013. 

The last 10" month at my station was back in August of 2011 with an incredible 21.53"...Its been dry the last couple of years...maybe  we've turned the corner back to wet.

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42 minutes ago, doncat said:

The last 10" month at my station was back in August of 2011 with an incredible 21.53"...Its been dry the last couple of years...maybe  we've turned the corner back to wet.

 

On this date in 1962 6.5" of rain fell in Bensonhurst Brooklyn from a localized thunder storm...This caused a street sink hole that swallowed two cars on 62ST and Ft. Hamilton Parkway...I remember seeing the hole and it was at least 30ft across...
http://www.tandfonli...72.1962.9926985

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13 hours ago, doncat said:

The last 10" month at my station was back in August of 2011 with an incredible 21.53"...Its been dry the last couple of years...maybe  we've turned the corner back to wet.

This is the longest streak since 2003 without a 10 inch storm or month around the area.

10 inch months around the area since 2003:

Jun 2003

Sep 2004

Oct 2005

Apr 2007

Jun 2009

Aug 2011

Jun 2013

Aug 2014

 

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22 hours ago, bluewave said:

We should have a contest on how long it will take for our next 10 inch deluge storm or month. The Islip deluge in August 2014 was the last storm to produce 10"+ around the area. Before that the last 10" spread over a month was June 2013. 

the pdo phase change strikes again

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10 hours ago, bluewave said:

This is the longest streak since 2003 without a 10 inch storm or month around the area.

10 inch months around the area since 2003:

Jun 2003

Sep 2004

Oct 2005

Apr 2007

Jun 2009

Aug 2011

Jun 2013

Aug 2014

 

I'll skip October 2005. We had severe basement flooding on my block as the whole water table rose above basement level. We had water come through the roof too during one of the nor'easter that month too

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12 hours ago, bluewave said:

This is the longest streak since 2003 without a 10 inch storm or month around the area.

10 inch months around the area since 2003:

Jun 2003

Sep 2004

Oct 2005

Apr 2007

Jun 2009

Aug 2011

Jun 2013

Aug 2014

 

The last 10"+ event here was Irene.

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14 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

The last 10"+ event here was Irene.

We are due for a high end rain event. August 2011 leading up to and including Irene was very wet. I am liking that the pattern has become more active since April and hope that will continue especially as we head deeper into the tropical season and the fall/winter months.

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9 minutes ago, Rtd208 said:

We are due for a high end rain event. August 2011 leading up to and including Irene was very wet. I am liking that the pattern has become more active since April and hope that will continue especially as we head deeper into the tropical season and the fall/winter months.

I hope we never get a 10 inch rain event. That's like asking for a disaster!

some of you people are funny on here literally you would take 10 inch rain events and 120 degree with high humidity. Go live in India for that, no thanks!

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1 hour ago, WeatherFeen2000 said:

I hope we never get a 10 inch rain event. That's like asking for a disaster!

some of you people are funny on here literally you would take 10 inch rain events and 120 degree with high humidity. Go live in India for that, no thanks!

But I'm sure you'd take a 3 foot blizzard where people get stranded, roofs collapse and people lose power in the freezing cold.

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24 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

But I'm sure you'd take a 3 foot blizzard where people get stranded, roofs collapse and people lose power in the freezing cold.

I sure would cause that's kinda normal in the northeast! If I lived in the south and we got two inches of snow I'd be happy but here we go big with our nor'easters you know this.

 

btw I hate love you yanks, I knew you were going to respond.

 

p.s. where's Anthony and allsnow?

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I sure would cause that's kinda normal in the northeast! If I lived in the south and we got two inches of snow I'd be happy but here we go big with our nor'easters you know this.

 

btw I hate love you yanks, I knew you were going to respond.

 

p.s. where's Anthony and allsnow?



I think this weather puts them into hibernation.

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15 hours ago, forkyfork said:

the pdo phase change strikes again

 

14 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I'll skip October 2005. We had severe basement flooding on my block as the whole water table rose above basement level. We had water come through the roof too during one of the nor'easter that month too

 

11 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

The last 10"+ event here was Irene.

The really big rainfall events have been happening in other parts of the country since August 2014. A few events such as the 6 inch Wantagh flash flood in Sep 15 came close. But that event and a few others stayed below the levels we experienced more frequently from 2003-2014.

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oh/hdsc/aep_storm_analysis/

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amount month year...

10" rainfall months for NYC..

10.10" June 2013
18.95" August 2011
10.69" March 2010
13.05" April 2007
16.73" October 2005
11.51" September 2004
10.27" June 2003
12.36" August 1990
10.24" May 1989
14.01" April 1983
10.54" March 1983
10.41" March 1980
10.52" January 1979
12.26" November 1977
11.77" July 1975
12.41" November 1972
10.86" August 1955
10.30" September 1944
11.96" September 1934
10.09" September 1933
12.97" October 1913
13.31" October 1903
11.89" July 1889
16.85" September 1882

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8 hours ago, bluewave said:

 

 

The really big rainfall events have been happening in other parts of the country since August 2014. A few events such as the 6 inch Wantagh flash flood in Sep 15 came close. But that event and a few others stayed below the levels we experienced more frequently from 2003-2014.

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oh/hdsc/aep_storm_analysis/

I had an event last Summer, don't remember the dates. Had something like 3.50" of rain in 45 minutes.

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1 minute ago, NJwx85 said:

I had an event last Summer, don't remember the dates. Had something like 3.50" of rain in 45 minutes.

Yeah, there have been several events like that. I believe it was last summer or the one before that that big 5"+ dump fell over the Sound and brushed the North Fork.

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