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June 2017 Observations & Discussions Thread


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37 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

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Well anyone in the south jersey they should look out but anyone north of say Trenton has no chances of any severe weather and I don't even think we get even a shower out of this north of Trenton that is. To me clearly everything north of say Altoona, Pa the storms are weakening. 

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Just now, WeatherFeen2000 said:

Well anyone in the south jersey they should look out but anyone north of say Trenton has no chances of any severe weather and I don't even think we get even a shower out of this north of Trenton that is. To me clearly everything north of say Altoona, Pa the storms are weakening. 

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5 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

the euro looks like it came north with cindy's remnants but i don't have precip maps

it actually looks very similar to the 84 hr nam (shown here)  Quick mover in and out-best rains south of I-195 in NJ, one to one and a half inches of rain.

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3 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

the euro looks like it came north with cindy's remnants but i don't have precip maps

It did, but it sends most of the moisture into the Ohio Valley where they get 2-3" of rain while most areas out this way see under a half inch.

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1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

it actually looks very similar to the 84 hr nam (shown here)  Quick mover in and out

namconus_apcpn_neus_28.png

It's actually not a quick mover at all. It rains itself out over the Ohio Valley with not much moisture to work with East of the Apps.

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1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Funny, he was right. 

 

Not a even a cloud forget a drop of rain here. Typical summer pattern on the south shore 

 No he wasn't. Most of LI got a drink today

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41 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I meant he was right about the severe threat. South jersey got slammed!!! And you always do well in convective setups up there

He wasn't talking about severe. We were talking about storms. You're giving him far too much credit. Bergen and Westchester got dumped on today. The severe risk was marginal.

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Jun Departures of late (recent)

Year: NYC/ EWR 

2016: +0.8 / +0.3
2015: -0.3 / -0.4
2014: +1.0 / +0.4
2013: +1.2 / +0.9
2012: -0.5 / +0.0
2011: +0.9 / +2.0
2010: +3.2 / +3.8
2009: -4.0 / -3.6
2008: +2.6 / +2.9
2007: -0.1 / +0.3
2006: -0.5 / +0.1
2005: +2.6 / +2.2
2004:  -0.2 / -0.2
2003: -3.1 / -3.2
2002:  +0.0 / -0.1
2001: +1.5  / +1.5
2000: -0.2  / +0.1
1999: +1.7 / +1.8
 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, SACRUS said:

Jun Departures of late (recent)

Year: NYC/ EWR 

2016: +0.8 / +0.3
2015: -0.3 / -0.4
2014: +1.0 / +0.4
2013: +1.2 / +0.9
2012: -0.5 / +0.0
2011: +0.9 / +2.0
2010: +3.2 / +3.8
2009: -4.0 / -3.6
2008: +2.6 / +2.9
2007: -0.1 / +0.3
2006: -0.5 / +0.1
2005: +2.6 / +2.2
2004:  -0.2 / -0.2
2003: -3.1 / -3.2
2002:  +0.0 / -0.1
2001: +1.5  / +1.5
2000: -0.2  / +0.1
1999: +1.7 / +1.8
 

 

 

 

2003 & 2009 stick out like a sore thumb

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16 hours ago, forkyfork said:

the euro looks like it came north with cindy's remnants but i don't have precip maps

...looks to get ELI on Saturday but gone by Sunday..hopefully setting up for a nice 

beach day on Sunday.

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12 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

He wasn't talking about severe. We were talking about storms. You're giving him far too much credit. Bergen and Westchester got dumped on today. The severe risk was marginal.

   20 hours ago,  WeatherFeen2000said: 

Well anyone in the south jersey they should look out but anyone north of say Trenton has no chances of any severe weather

 

look I was wrong a weak thunderstorm that I was in did roll by but it was weakening and it rained for 15 minutes moderately but it didn't thunder or have any lightning. South of Trenton got severe weather yesterday.

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June monthly average temperature from 1981-2010 in Central Park is 71.8...The fudged June normal is 71.4...If you use the June monthly average you must use the average from 1981-2010...it's like comparing apples to apples...each month's normal temperature is smoothed down a few points...The long range average temperature for June since 1870 is near 71.0...

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14 minutes ago, uncle W said:

June monthly average temperature from 1981-2010 in Central Park is 71.8...The fudged June normal is 71.4...If you use the June monthly average you must use the average from 1981-2010...it's like comparing apples to apples...each month's normal temperature is smoothed down a few points...The long range average temperature for June since 1870 is near 71.0...

before 1930 June averaged near 70.1 in Central Park...The 1930's averaged 71.6 and that average has maintained itself till today...

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1 hour ago, uncle W said:

before 1930 June averaged near 70.1 in Central Park...The 1930's averaged 71.6 and that average has maintained itself till today...

June is the slowest summer temperature increase across the area over the last 100 years. 

+2.5 warmer in June than 100 years ago....July.....+3.4......August.....+3.6

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5 minutes ago, bluewave said:

June is the slowest summer temperature increase across the area over the last 100 years. 

+2.5 warmer in June than 100 years ago....July.....+3.4......August.....+3.6

I believe October is a slower warming month?...June has pretty much had a steady temperature since the 1930's...as of yesterday June is averaging 70.8...it could end up exactly normal or average since the 1930's...

June averages from Central Park...

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1870's.....70.4......
1880's.....70.5.......
1890's.....70.9.......
1900's.....70.0.......
1910's.....69.0.......
1920's.....70.1.......
1930's.....71.6.......
1940's.....71.5.......
1950's.....71.2.....
1960's.....72.0....
1970's.....71.0......
1980's.....71.7.......
1990's.....72.2.......
2000's.....71.3.......
2010's.....72.4.........2010-16
1870/1880-
2009 ave 70.9.....
1980-
2009 ave 71.7.......

 

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48 minutes ago, uncle W said:

I believe October is a slower warming month?...June has pretty much had a steady temperature since the 1930's...as of yesterday June is averaging 70.8...it could end up exactly normal or average since the 1930's...

Yeah, October is the slowest warming month for our coastal climate division which includes the 5 boroughs of NYC, Nassau, and Suffolk.

Here is the 100 year temp increase  for all 12 months of the year for NYC, Nassau, and Suffolk from 1917-2016.

Annual average increase +3.3

Jan...+2.3

Feb...+3.9

Mar...+3.2

Apr...+4.2

May...+2.8

Jun...+2.5

Jul...+3.4

Aug...+3.6

Sep...+2.6

Oct...+1.6....slowest

Nov...+3.8

Dec...+5.8...fastest

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